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-----""'""""""""""""'"'l-'l'-""-lle-lllll-ll- - March it) o , " on I ence v? h, i _ bb-l9 "We are going to vote against V a v the Government, but on principles, . and we won't be a party to any de. sign or device to impede or ob. or rew overnm enf struct assistance to the school boards of Ontario." .A. long debate followed the On Grants f Ilv,istio.t? of the House, with C.C.F.. o . c oo s and Liberal members firing numeral on: qzeSMtion: at the Government. . . . . . ac eod, Lab r-P .Staking the life of his Government on passage of a motion to Leader, also took a haond it: If,',',"',',',.',: go into Supply, Premier George A. Drew yesterday obtained trom cussion and engaged in debate with the Legislature a vote of confidence on the question of distributing Provincial Treasurer Leslie M. $8,820,000 to the school boards of Ontario as part of the Govern. gm" Mr. PHtef yeused the! ment's pledge to assume 50 per celllC . SYsmm?" of dangling a prize of educational costs. Challenged by this. "My undertaking was with re- tf/elf/li',',' trent. of the recole a.t. a Liberal House Leader M. F. Hep- Spect to the Budget debate," he said. 'dll"i1 23:11:63: expfrience. with- bdrm who charged the Government Mr. Jolliffe supported the Pre- make ood th 0:711 is'golng to with "trickery" and "calculated mis-l, . i h g on e a ance (of the) representation," the Premier electri-! mier, and later the Prem er quoted so ool grants). . i fled the crowded galleries by stat- from Hansard: "We will first con- Mr. Hepburn said the Govern- ng that. since the motion was being' sider supplementary estimates - JJiyst1",'. 21',"i last year land thisl )pposed. he would regard it as al, that, of course, is not the Budget cost of "Eggs: 'leithhee,l'citg"if, resolution ot confidence. l debate. I shall be happy to confer know why the ii'oi;iiiniiii,n"t did no: Unable" to obta.ly the support of with Leaders of the other groups do last year what it was doing this he CCF. Opposition, Mr. Hepburn' . . year. round himself on the short end ofI if?" proceeding with the Budget Such Disappointment a 66 to 19 recorded vote, the twol e ate." '; ' Labor-Progressives and the two! "I admit my mistake," said Mr.) .'I have never seen such bitter former CCF. members voting with): Hepburn. "I am more concerned; ;dlsapp01ntment as these two mem. the Liberal group. E. B. Jolliffe.' with giving a rump Government: bers are sht.rwityr,r' remarked Mr. C.C.F. Leader, told the House lyh whose fate is in the balance a blanki Frost, referring to Mr. MacLeod and would vote against the Government', cheque. As far as this group is com' P., Hepburn. "They are tearing on a principle, but would not seek; corned. we are out to beat this the" h.air because we are doing to obstruct or impede assistance to'; Tory Government at the first oppor- something they said we wouldn't the school hoards. l tunity. We have no confidence in do. . After three hours of debate] it. It is unprecedented to ask power! ( Charles Millard (C.C.F.. West which was carried into the evening to vote money be given a Govern-) BYOFI'Q described the financial plan session, the Legislature in commit.' ment which does not have the con-i ps 2'isky, it not dangerous tinane. tee of supply, voted the estimate: fidence of the House. It is out of Wig. . I at 9:15 p.m. , order, and I will oppose it to the! is 2ef"g Drew and Mr. Frost an- Premier Applauded ', point of asking a recorded vote." I i were .numtroys criticisms of the There was thunderous applause) Charge Denied i "i,Q'a'i1irt,tsi,o'y,',.t 2iec,'tlot1, grants. To from Progressive Conservative) "It's neither a blank cheque NOY' imunicipfilitie's "71031; t: at "use": members when the Premier took: has it anything to do with antici-l since grants wereb dc "gamed? up the Libelal challenge.. After: pated expenditure," the Premier re-i vious year's costs Ti, I') t e DRE-g .denying that the Government was, torted. "The motion (for payment} that prudent munii tit. f,rf, 891d; 7seeking a blank cheque endorse-' ot the $8,820,000 school grants)could; !lower tax rates be pal les, favling; 'ment from the Legislature, as Mr.'; be made at any time. The payment' Sexpenditures in th y ":80" tl o.wi, (Hepburn had charged, the Premierl,is out of last year's funds." 'a position to mail?" , are grow ml ldeclared: "We are here as a Gov! Then Premier Drew told the gamed by the new r etx pen £395] lernment just so 1orig as the Legis., House that his Government would {such prudent] 'i'iefl'l,'ltd an t ati nature supports us. We undertookI accept the Hepburn resolution as a "he basis of guture mmcos; all; "he responsibility fo government' vote ot confidence. . :shortly react to theirgbenegit ou i, land are willing to carry on as long "It was first amusms and then . . :as we have the support of thel became tiresome," he said, "to have Fair Equalization legislature. Since we have been the member from Elgin threaten- "The grants have been applauded 'challenged, we will accept the reso-l ing this Government. I have made by the people of the Province gen- lution as a vote of confidence." I iht, clear many times that twe'lll be orally as a fail}; waydof equalizing Ch ere as a overnment Jus as ong the situation," e sai . 333:"); ie,et.1"it, £3531), pt? :23 as the majority ot. the House sup- Laughter greeted the observation House and the Premier and his! port us. We are willing to carry on by J. B. Salsberg (L.-P... Tqmnto' i;iiiii'ii.or,; colleagues rose to signify! only so long as we have support. St. Andrew) that responsibility for h . d iire iii?'"; recorded vote Iii, he challenges this Tsolution, education had rested for years on t e" esn . . . "we'll accept this resolution as a Liberal and Progressive Conserva- The PPS"? then dw-lded tit! to 19. vote of confidence." tive Governments. The amusement the CC.?". voting solidly with the| Opposition Leader Jolliffe rose to at criticism of the Liberals caused,, Government. declare his party's stand in reply to kMr. Salsberg to interject: "We have; At the outset. when the House Mr. Hepburn's remark that there imuch to criticize in the Libe.ali was about to pass on the Govern- was "no escape" for the COP. {Partyf' To which Mr. Hepburn re- ment motion. Mr. Hepburn declared Says Member Ingenious plied that the Liberals "couldn't the motion was out of order bell, ... . n . I tand a cruel word" from their cause the rules provided that the! "My position ls clear, he said. 'Lifb Pr ressive friends 7 Budget should not be considered' 'We wish an opportunity to express Mor- ngs t re lied to 'Mr Sals- before the completion of the Throne) an opinion. But we wish to express b , 9t. ismp that Toronto had Speech, and that the "rump Govern-lit on principles such as are em- erg.s (full: than 30 er cent in- ment" could not vote money untill bodied in our amendment to the receévef st',',',',) cent of cgst of educa- its program as stated in the Throne'; Throne Speech motion and not a Itea h) .3" Cobalt as having re- h was a raved b a majority! question of procedure. no matter tlon, y Cl g . Speec H pp y 'how ingenious it may be---and the ceived 75 per cent, and said the of the ouse. imember for Elgin is ingenious in amounts varied, but. were 50 per Doubtful of Surplus such matters n 'cent over all the Province. Oshawa, Mr. Hepburn claimed the tiover.n) Whether the school cant was an ' instance, gets 35 per cent cent, ment was guilty of "deliberate mis-' election promise or , Mr. Jol- (while near-by Brooklin gets til). representation" in claiming a sur- liffe added, "we do not conceive it 1 "The regulations apply: uniform. plus it did not possess, and he tts- our duty to deny to the school ;1y throughout Ontario, Premier serted that the Premier had prom- boards of Ontario the financial as- Drew declared, and to a question ised to consult group Leaders ih iiriiifie they have a right to ex- Eas to when future grants would be the House before going into esti- beet 'paid Mr. Frost said it was proposed mates. and he had not done so. l . , P . -------._ Premier Drew promptly denied