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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 11 Mar 1931, p. 2

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Liberals Refuse to Align Themselves With Want-', of--Confidence Motioni Because of Cabinet Ac-- ceptanc2 of Suggestion'| for Study of Agricul-- tural Distress--All Op-- position Forces, How-- ever, Line Up Against Tories on "Main Motion" Division _lop's first Budget since assuming Ooifice. | _ The Clive--Slack amendment, seeking, I as it did, to put the House on record as regretting "the Government's failure to establish and maintain markets tonr . farm products, so that by mcreascdi selling volume the farmer could meet | his high overhead cost," was supported | by Hon. Harry C. Nixon and his : Progressive group, but was opposed by | William E. N. Sinclair and the official | Liberal Opposition, as well as by thc \ Government. | "Unfortunate Episode." | In vigorous tones, Mr. Sinclair de-- | nounced the amendement as "an unfor-- | tunate episode" in the debate, coming as | it had after the Government had acted | on his suggestion to convert the Agricul-- | ture Committee of the House into an in-- 'quiry committee; after that committee 'had held two or three meetings as "an . economic committee" and not as a poli-- | tical body; and after the House had | pretty well agreed on co--operated effort, l this session, to try and solve the agricul-- | turists' present--day difficulties and !problems.A s s tss _ DEBATE IS ENDED ; BUDGET COMES NEXT largost Government majority in the recollection of the oldest member of the House--the Ontario Legislature yesterday turned thumbs down on the Oliver--Slack want--of--confidence amend-- ment; carried by 82 to 19 the main motion for adoption of the Address in reply to the Speech from the Throne; formally terminated the initial debats of the present session; and clsared the decks for the presentation tomorrow of Provincial Treasurer Edward A. Dun-- lop's first Budget since assuming office. "My attitude," said Mr. Sinclair, fol-- lowing the adjournment of the House, "is that since the Government is doing what we asked it to do we can't turn right around and kick it in the back. And I think the thinking people of the Province will quite agree with me." k . The discrepancy between the two di-- vision votes is due to the fact that while the Liberals side with the CGovernment on the amendment, they just as strongly oppose the Government on the main motion. There were no pairs. Willing to Work With Liberals. The closing bhours of the debate were featured by Mr. Sinclair's appeal for co--operation on farm questions; by Mr. Nixon's condemnation of the Govern-- ment's new milk regulations, of the Government's gun--license policy; and of the Government's campaign methods in the recent West Hamilton by--elec-- tion: and by Premier George S. Henry's cool, calculated, step--by--step, member-- by--member reply to the argument By a registered vote of 95 to 6--the (Continued on Page 2, Column 4.) thrown against Government policy by the Opposition since the debate com-\ menced, almost three weeks ago. Mr. Henry expressed every willingness to work with the Libsrals in improving the status of agriculture, and pleaded:, for an emphatic rejection of the amend-- ment. Two other speakers who figured in the wind--up were William Newman (Liberal, North Victoria) and J. Fred Roid (Conservative, West Windsor). Mr. Newman's reiteration of his "pro-- hibition" stand was one of the most compelling bits of oratory ever heard in the Ontario House. Mr. Reid's "fun-- making" was about as "rib--tickling" a half--hour act as ever heard in the Chamber, or cutside it for that matter. Congratulates Mr. Sinclair. Liberal House Leader Sinclair was congratulatsd by Mr. Newman for his policy of co--opsration in the matter of agricultural relief. Mr. Newman also expressed his gratificatin on the work done by the Government on the Cobsconk--Dorset highway. Roads, he said, were of especial importance in the North because of the tourist traffic. A good dcal of Mr. Newman's speech was devoted to the question of wolves. "Woe have a great menace in the wolf because of its destruction of deer," said h. He deplored the fact that, in spite of the increased bounty, the number c wolves killed in 1930 was 1,037 lower than in 1929. The five districts sur-- rounding Algonquin Park, however, had shown an increase in the number of wolves killed. "Algonquin Park is a protection for wolves," he declzed. Hon. William Finlayson, Minister of Lands and Forests, explained that a new Sup>rintendent appointed in Al-- gonquin Park last year had died before putting into effect plans for hunting wolves in the winter. His plans, how-- ever, had bsen carried out, and so far this winter 75 wolves had been slain. "Real Pro-- ess." The destruction of 75 wolves this winter was real progress, said Mr. New-- man, and he was glad that there was an organized plan to hunt wolves in Al-- gonquin Prak. 12 . o emeamies o ol en n en e S C eERedr B9 C CORT, Coming to the tsmperance question, Mr. Nawman launched a stinging criti-- cism of the speech made by w. wW. Staples (Conservative, Victoria South). He mentioned that Mr. Staples had said that he (Mr. Newman) could move himself to tears Mr. Newman °X-- plained that he had had considerable dificulty with pubslic speaking. "I haven't had anyth'nzg more dirty put over me in public life," he Geclared Instead of trying to make the liquot taw more tomperate, Mr. Staples had wasted the time of the House in ridi-- culing him. P cnevvkes Klin 1i . OV GALELEDL ICopUILsHViLIWYy IUL SUH) AGLAALLAAND* vre on ag P e ns ti;l:dl This resolution deals with what is past ;)cr&.mce ibs_ui."and Iid haIfS?t dipu r;is' and certainly no one will say that' down my flas," he said. ResariInE markets for our farm products have attitude at the Liberal convention, he been maintained. Just how far the Gov-- stated that the liquor question should ernment and it,.s Agricultural fiepart- be taken out of party politics, and tD€ mont may be blamed for this is, I admit, people allowed to decide the maiter bs: dsbatable, but I point out that the very independent vote. Ha advocated th@t notivity of the Minister at the present the Minister of Education @ApPPTOVE & time if it results in anything of a course in temperance on which children tangiple nature, is the strongest possible wou'd have to pass an examination: condemnation of the past do--nothing Concluding, he declared he stood fOf policy of the department, and shows total prchibition in Canada, "@Nd how sadly the interest of agriculture neither the member for South Victoris ne# suffered at the hands of the Tory nor any one else can say Newman has'Aaministration. We wish the Minister lost his temperance principles." egfry success, and will bgladly do any-- thing we can to assist, but the respon-- Want--of--Confidence Motion. sibility must primarily rest with thepde- Mr. Sinclair declared Mr. Oliver's partment, as will any credit that may amendment to be nothing more than aensue, and if, noxt year, the Minister iwant-of--confidence motion. Establish--can show results in the farmers' in-- ment and maintenance of marlketsttfor :{3?3:;11 ig:cgfi'o :ntll ;fillg'ngzegrgtgrti; ral mattor ndition, e | Ontario was primarily a Federal matter CHMUFA) CONMDODL a To 'oud iaud his Mr. Oliver .a'rc/f 1 1 not, he contended Stand up in ~ 4j achievements. elaborated his marketing plan, nor hat he proffered the House any explanation of his "increased sales volume" objec-- tive. Since he had moved the ameni-- ment, Mr. Oliver had appeared in the Agriculture Committee, but he had nct seen fit to press his proposition there. The amendment, Mr. Sinclair stated, was "an unfortunate episode" of the debate. "When I spoke," he said, "I said I was moving no amendment. I waived my right to any political ad-- vantage I might gain by such action. I stressed the present condition of agriculture and asked the Government to make the Agriculture Committee of the House a committee of inquiry. The Government followed my suggestion. The committee is now meeting twice a week. It is not opcrating as a Tory or a political body in any sense. It is operating as an economic committee. "Provocation to Government." "WMir. Oliver's amendment is an in-- vitation to the committee to adopt a partisan attitude It is a provocation to the Government, after an effort has been made » unite all groups on a study of agriculture and its problems." For such reasons, stated the Opposi-- tion head, neither he nqr his following could support the amendment. "We offered our co--operation in aid of agri-- culiture," he stated, "and we are not going to prejudice the industry or our cfforis to date simply to vote against the Government. We are not renounc-- ing our party allegiance, nor are we crossing the flcor to join the Tories. We are opposed to the Government on general policies, and we will vote againct it on the main motion if there should be a vote. "The Progressives moved no amend-- ment. J exprossed the hops they would not when they spoke. May I express the hope now that thsy will not press for a vote cu the amendment. Let us conclude this debate as we started it. and strengtheon the hands of our Com-- mittee on Agriculture." New Minister of Agricuiture. "Now, Mr. Speaker, wheon I addreossed you on this dcebate," said Mr. Nixon, "I stated that the only thing that stopped me from moving an amendment con-- demning the Government's agricultural policy, was the fact that we have a new Minister at the head of the Department of Agriculture showing considerable ac-- tivity, and I would wait and see just what the result, in a tangible way, would be to the farmer. But now that this amendment is before the House, it is certainly my intention to support it. This Administration, if it may be term-- ed a new ons, takes over the top--heavy majority of the Ferguson Administra-- tion; takes over its machinery and pol-- icies; takes credit for the achievements it desires to take credit for, and must also accept responsibility for its failures. This resolution deals with what is past, and certainly no one will say that markets for our farm products have been maintained. Just how far the Gov-- ernment and its Agricultural Depart-- ment may be blamed for this is, I admit, dsbatable, but I point out that the very activity of the Minister at the present time, if it results in anything of a tangible nature, is the strongest possible condemnation of the past do--nothing policy of the department, and sp_ows

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