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Fob. 28. Plie. . versity. This is further borne out bY |~ ";f I have another moment let me [ one s for the purpose ®© report in this morning's paper in | read to the Attorney--General one sec-- educagt.?sn. § $Mof"hipbet which he says that his editorial WAS| tion of this cditorial I will ask your| "Purther than that this Legislature the inevitable outcome of several YCATS' | forbearance, because I am rathcr| has giver the University of 'Toronto ,hl'nlllarlty with the subject. proud to admit many of these words are | its own internal machinery, and has _ "It seems to me we have an is®UC | foreign to my vocabulary." set :t up in the University Act, and we before us of the gravest importance.| After reading from the editorial, Mr.) have delegated all our powers to bodies J know for a fact that this matter DAS | Njyon proceeded: "I would seriously |over at the university. First, there is caused, and is causing, keen anxxety'ask the Attorney--General to consider it |a Board of Governors The Govern-- and dismay in the minds of the patentS ) syeh matter does not come very close |ment appoints twenty--two and the of the students of our university | ;o prasphemy as it is defined in the |Alumni appoints twenty--two, and there throughout the Province, and I dC--| Criminal Code, and therefore liablse to| are some ex--officio members of the mand of the Government, on M¥ "C--| action of the officers of. his depart-- | Board of Governors. The powers of the sponsivbility as Leader of this group I" | ment: Board of Governors are seb --forth in / the House, on beha}f of 'pa.cntvs A ruling by Speaker Kidd that the|the statute. Then following that we throughout this Province who @f€| mover of the House adjournment| have the Caput, and that is provided greatly exercised over the situation and | should place in -- writing with the| n Section 77 of the ac;, with its powers have sent their sons and daughierS| gpeaker his reasons for so doing|l2}d down thore. Sections $4 to 87 ot' nere at great expense and Sacfmce' brought polite disagreement from Wil--) the act relate to discipline within the and also on behalf of this great _m'iliam E. N. Sinclair, K.C., Liberal'"ni\'t'fiisii.'vfi which is in the hands of putl.ltlon with its gOOd name and hlf':h | House Leader. and discussion was in" this Cfl]"c"t. veputation, that it may b€: f'«'('f?d of th¢ / ;terrupted by the suggestion of Premier| Governing Bodics. | stigma and suspicion that this matte" | frenry that the debate be allowed to _ Now, sir. this Legislature has dele-- has brought upon it, I demand this: | proceed while Mr. Nixon fulfilled the) gated these powers to the govemi;ig vhat the Government at once Lake O2° | desired formality. f _ | bodies at the university, and right at 't':'."in! v?;t? t-;lt):dtoaggx ca"]r"cx;' 0::) cp;::,led \ Liberal Leader Speaks. ' the present time these governing bodies before thisgl..egislature béfore honorable | i x&lii!?ad%r Nm stintc;g;:._ul:fi;e Iaib;;t; r.ar'c handling this particular situation,' § i # al | , the e $ & iversity.| . Tonay Ios "oe Tmtker manipianes "or | 4. folions i n O ME ts m Thsk anos at| Ine Institublion. "Mr. Speaker, the honorable member| 4\ io. hs university has 'iled n k | for Brant (Mr. Nixon) has brought this| NY . T806 | *N€ ts Thid f Investigate Whole Charge. | matter before the attention of the| Within the limits of its powers laid | "I would suggest that some ont b¢ ) Hrouse on the orders of the day and as| IOWD this Legislature certainly should | wommissioned to investigate this whol® an alumnus of the University of To--| NOt intervene or ask for an investiga-- | wharge--some one fully qualified to 89 ronto, and one who has followed the| tiOn or anything of that kind. Investi--| fnto the matter--whose name and Pres-- history of the university for some years,| Kate what? How can a man investizate | tize would be such as to ensure public 1 fee I possibly can say something on| 4S to whether a student is an atheist or | eonfidence in bls report, whfitever it ) this question this afternoon. And the| DOt an atheist? And I don't sec_,ust might be. This individual, T feel, should | question is: What is it all about, and| WhAt else there could be to investigate not be in any way coxmectcd ".'nh the apparently it is about an editdrial.) At the present time. My point is th§. | q ot Governigee of ie univeescy.| WDSt is an editorial? My deriniipn| This: Leslelatune fite . dfesstel L000 | )1 say if we as members orl this Legi;-' of an editorial is that it is an opinion| POWSTS and authorities in reg_ard o t ic | » | tar PR + of ons man big enough to own or con--| Internal management, discipline for | ,gtufjie 8;9 voting the good:money of $08) irop a paper, not necessarily public| Professors and students and all others | | fors wpo fo pty ine n ants (nebpoias Opinion at all It is written on the| Rt the University of Toronto by pstue | ;)f our sons and daughters, then we editorial page, and one might 935"3 of the Toronto Univertify Act. { m%"i 'Want to kn';w 'i' ané I,am 'fi'atisfied we'be- classed as an atheist these days in| SaY that T do not fear for tl}e. 'u...x:efl will be able to act accordingly if we|Cditorials at any rate, because I feef| of the student body at the Unive:sity | 'ha'.'e this informatfon there are very few of us take them at| 0f Toronto or the future citizens oi L.;u! i "I may sa furt'ler. that there is face value when we read them, because Province. Not many days ago I hea:d [:esiin® at a'(', that affairs at the uni. NC "Calize they are written by human' & sermon from the Rev. Stuart.Parl_xtfl ]'e(;,:;:; :rcr(;unm'::r r:thz:bata'; the lxla?iis. beings limited in their experience and| which came back to my mind with this | 'and I fancy a taste of theoosft:on ' possibly in their point of view. very question when he took for is | _ |arm m('t;;'o&s that'n;/;' good friend tge 'Now, there is this paper known as|text, 'Abraham Ditched 1,315 C n rus on | i Provincial Secretary has used to such the Varsity, which has been published| it was at the beginning," and he pic--| & 'good effect in dealing with the instity.| OM Y°Bt to year and the other day an| fured in that very eitustion (he vor? | [:tions of ;'etorm \in tfiis Province n;i ht editorial appeared in it. While to my situatio'n of the young man and 30«'1':-,-:, | be flxfld with equally good effect in tghls mind let me say the editorial is pure]| woman's viewpoint on life. But as ufe':, | | instit{xuon of learning i | nonsense--I cannot use the words I) pass on to more mature stages. of 34;.. \ "Let ms say further. that I fes! thati would like to use in characterizing the having gone through this experience mr what this F"m\";n*c nee:dst n co*u;ection editorial on account of the rules of the life, they pitch their tents where they ks ,wlth our whole e;iu"ational s'siem is & House--but why is there all this ado| were before, and go back to the view-- strong Minister to devote hl.: full time about this editorial? Is it for the wel-- point of citizenship throughout ine [to the affairs of the deps rtment' fare of the University of Toronto or length and breadth of the Province. | _ "Now, I note in this morning's papers| i¢..} for the sake of gotting some pub-- Teo Much Noise, He Claims. ['that at a special meeting of the Gover.| "C¢Y?,, I fear that the latter features | «wow, 1 probably have said more than |'nors of the university they passe d" ; | more than the welfare of the great in-- ; intended to say, but my view is that | resolution, moved by T. A. Russell and stifix'tlog_ 'acrosis.tgf t raf here. , altogether too much noise has been | seconded by Major Eric Armour: 'This | ; .\ Xfiw ?aof'__M':, Sa,,af{irema';cel tl?ng'ee'_ made about this episode. At the pros-- board unanimously . repudiates the gtand the rbules of n},)é House, my hono:'- ent time people are apt to believe be-- article appearing in Varsity on Fcb.| ane ssiend is not in order in i ing Cause some one says so and so that it | 24, suggesting the students of the uni-- :h P ';;en xts(,)no nloz i "t'hlm?hu: nE is so and so, but I have more faith in ,versity and a majority of the gradu-- | cdc. kr%ei tmefim. ai:']y ¢ eNMSS | the young men and young women who ates are largely atheists, and that the T h6 polonPirraramaintuk are our own sons and daughters. I professors and staff are teaching | Fartnts and Children, have more faith in them than to be-- atheism to the students, which state-- Mr. Sinclair--I am very glad to ac-- lieve for one moment there is any-- '!ments are entirely contrary to the fact }cept my honorable friena's word. My thing whatever in the editorial which and totally misrepresent the university, ' honorable friend cannot escape, how-- | appeared in the Varsity the other 4_11=_13'. its staff and the student body.' AncFevvr. what appeared in the paper this and until the university authoritics while I am glad to see this on ihe morning, advocating that parents send have exhausted their investigation part of the Governors, still I do not feel. {' their children to other universities. within the powers conferred on them 'Mr. Speaker, that the general pub'.lchs'-ll'flly he doesn't wish the University by this act I would suggest that this | will be entirely satisfied with this state. | Of Toronto to have to go to Hamilton Legislature hold its hand and take no i'meut. nor am I convinced that the Gov-- & or some other city, like McMaster. part now, no action whatever, I am | ernors themselves are entirely satisfied,.| _ '"Now this is purely a university af-- rather surprised that my hon'orablfi | because I note also in this mommg'sE fair as I see it, and this Province gives friend from Brant would suggest that Mail that one of the leading members| money to the University of Toronto, the editor be jailed and that the At-- §of the Board of Governors said 'it would : N4 it gives it to the university for the torney--General have him up for blas-- | e a good thing if the Legislature had | purpose of higher education in this phemy. It scems to me we should take )the whole thing cleaned up. {P";"Vm??,iand (x;ot, tfxor the Du;'gjose Oi a compas;ionate h"l;vayolf) ut';sk eyg:'::g «e [nt ts »» any religious education or anything of© man, or whoever ho e; tak 3 i mm Irme san no _' this kind. There are no strings im-- passion on him for the views he holds 3 ow, let me say, no one hopes more | posed on the money which we grant. and which he thinks other people hold than I do that an investigation will \and right in the University Act there pecause he has the wrong conception bear out this declaration of the Board | is this section: 'No religious test shall entirely on life. He hasn't figured out of Governors, because I say, Mr.| be required of any professor, lecturer, | the thoughts of most of the rest of the Speaker, that those who are responsible | teacher, officer or servant of the uni-- students of the University of Toronto, for this editorial should be expelied, if | yersity or University College or AnYy put as I said, he happens to hold the not jailed; that this disreputable sheet | stugdent,' ctc. This Legislature has laid | resf)onslble position of an editor, and should be finally and absolutely sup-- | down the broad principle that the Uni-- ;nerefore is able to say things which pressed. $ versity of Toronto is non--denomMmi-- you and I are not able to say with the national, is a public university to which | came force of authority."