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"'But." he observed. "dealing with the individual. you are largely speculating on the future." Would not it be possible. he was ask- ed. for rural power users to "get to. gether" for a joint contract? He re- ,plied that this was done in townships 'today. , The Industrial Research Foundation ,was the next subject. When. said hm] 'he had announced this last yen Mr) Sinclair "telt like ridiculing it." con-i sidered it "cheap advertising for the Page, mister." i to meet the situation." l He emphasized that the Hydro is a "o-operative concern. and that the basic principle is the delivery of power at cost. 'The delivery ot power into country sec- tions incorporated transportation charges Just " the mailing of express parcels. "As the load grows. and there is greater txtetsumptityn, the lower the cost will 'became," he noted. l P. o. Sandy (Liberal. South Victoria) 'wanted to know why there was a dif- ference in the handling of rural and urban power affairs. "It is largely an engineering propo-g anion." Mr. Ferguson replied. In an; incorporated community. said he, the. Commission could count on a fixed load, and that in the contract the unit ii) 1tyoorporati:m would be continued. Mr. Ferguson worn on to descnbc the "rapid and spectacular" develcpmrnt in the mining tteld. "And." he declared, "it ics bound to marten: and grow." "My honorable friends," he continued, "have started an outcry because Hydro daem't roach out as far and as rapidly {a} It might to serve the rural people. We all reergniat the dimcultics. and it is the unbandmg effort of this Government to meet the situation." Mr. Ferguson 100st some sharp cracks at members ot the Liberal group. "It struck me with some amusement." he declared. "to see. my friends across the way applauding their Leader when he made to me the answer he did. I wonder now what they will say in East Elgln of how their member applauded. I wonder what the good people of Nort h York will think of their representative when they know the way he greeted his Leader's reply that he would not in??? interfered with the banquet per- m t." Mr. Ferguson referred in the Ytters which he. as Minister of Education. was sonding out, tn tho school teachers at the Province instructing {ham to teach their mums the dangers of alco- holic consumption. and the meaning of Was there a single mcmber in the House, he declared. who would say for a moment that, it the United States was not "ht'mstrung with intricacies and complexities of constitutional dif- ficulty." she wculd mt. appeal her prohibitirm law? Mining Development. The trouble with the Liberal raifiF: eg,', the Prime Minister. was that his a wss a bit divided. He sat too close to some follows on his lett who did not think the same way about the Liquor Act as did the line-up of mem- bers behind him. and on whose sup- port he was dependent. "What I can't understand." observed Mr. Ferguson. "is the fallacy of tumbling into such a mess." Criticizes Liberals. self-control. Mr. Sinclair. he said, had criticized one letter. Evidently, ho said. he had not got. his hairs: mail. For thew wero other Icttrrr, and thor,?. would be more. Educational work ot this type had been done in the paM. There was no reason whv it could not b: done now. In fact. the department would insist that it be done. "So that." he said. "the plastic growing mind shall have proper acquaintance with tho dangers in the use of liquor-not to touch it--it ciCr--untll mature age is reached " Mr. Ferguson dttrlt, at rim" Mm'H. on the "b007,?" situation in tlt'? Unitrd States. ttuetinp, Judge Ncrris. presiding Judge ct tho Domedic Relati'nw Court. New Yok as saying after " visit to Toronto: "I wish to mvodners that we had something like this in New York." For every licensed saloon under the old regime. there are now, she stated, twen- ty_"sptakeaties.'1 _ 7_ - __ __ 'Quéting the declaration before the Senate ot a United States Congress- man. that thorn P"tre too spettlteasics new to cvory sateen. the Prime Minister claimed that the whole United States was honeycombcd with evil. Any one who know anything about Clrvctand. BttiTaln. r'r Detroit. he stat- ed. would know that he was right. "That's not correct." sc'mc Progres- she mcmbtr challengcd. "It is cor- rect," said Mr. Ferguson. "All ycu have to do is to pass through these places and mm thn emuvia that is abroad on the streets." 's/e/avi-. fre-l-scsi-s. Moreover. he pointed out, Ottawa had cur oft its grant of $350,000 for voca- 'tional training, adding: "And there?, no reason that the Ottawa Government withdrew its grant to us except that ,wc'rc the Province of Ontario." Ontario's Record. And what. he inquired, was Ontario 'doing? Well, he answered himself. it I contributed '2t500,000 lasc year for ag- iriculturc: in highway grants it subsi- ', dized county roads to the extent of $4,.. l 117,000, and township roads to the ex-1 f tent ot $1,185,000; it expended $3,400,-i, :000 on rural education last year; and, 1it advanced rural Hydro to the extent'; of $1,420,000. The total basic cxpen-J diiures of the Province. he further' pointed out. amounted to $30,000,000,) and $13,000,000 ot this was in the above : figures. "Never." he climaxed his ar-i gument. "has there been a Govern-I ment that has spent as liberally and as; wisely." i Then, concluding his address, he launched another attack on Mr. Leth- brldge's stand on agricultural mtrttertt. And he had words ot advice for the "And how," he asked, "has Ottawa helped agriculture in Ontario? It gives "no assistance. and yet the growth has §beon such that we have produced in i value as much as the whole wheat crop i of the Western Provinces." l He spoke then of the Government's iinterost in the problem of the prisoner? ,just out of incarceration and starting 30m in society again, and made his an- lnouncement of the officials at the (Ouelph Reformatory who would help 'to get them a start back in lite. , Prospcrlty In Ontario. "Ottawa." he bombarded the Liberals. "withdrew its assistance to highways and tlrm withdrew its grant to agricul- ture and allowed this Government to assume $325,000 a year in increased ex- penditure. Yet we took from the Pub- lie Treasury sufficient to make up that which was withdrawn. and carried on the work the same as it was ever done." In the matter of agricultural de- velopment, said he, the Government had boen criticized on the ground of "par- simony." and prosperity in Ontario had been attributed to prosperity in the Do. minion generally under the Liberals. But look, he commanded, at how On- tario had helped Canada - $90,000,000 contributed from mines, $120,000,000 trom forests. He spoke at length of the Govern- ment's interest in the bettering of con- ditions for underprivileged hows, and of the operation of its school at Bowman- manvllle for such lads. Then in the establishment of auxiliary classes the Government had been responsible for a noteworthy extension. Since it lead come into power such classes had in- creased from " to 209. He touched also on the work being done for crip- pled children, the night classes for new Canadians, and the correspondence courses which took education into re- mote sections. Some children who got their learning from such courses. he observed in this last regard, had pass- ed examinations with honors and were as proficient as the "highest" pupil in city schools. 1 "But," he continued, "look how it has 'worked out. In six or eight. months there have been subscriptions ot B mil-. lion and three-quarter dollars from private sources." There had been, he stressed. impressive subscriptions. not gonly from industrial organizations. but lirom individuals,. "Now," he went on, " propose to ask this House, and I be- Ilieve it will meet with agreement, that 'when individuals do this the Province itself match this dollar for dollar." I Referring to the activities of the re- ireseareh organization. he. said: " hope "hat before the next season opens a :good many experts will be investigat- ing. not only the problems of manu~ [facturern but the great problems of iihe farm with an end to lessening (waste and bringing about new condi- itions for the benefit ot agriculture in _ Ontario." I He suggested that the proposals would be incorporated in a bill and would be further explained when this measure was/brought lll. "Before this Government get: through." he declared. "we propose to do something to which mv honorable friends take cxccptim. We intend a great reformation along lines which will be of tremendous advantage to On- tario. so that ft maintain its position as one of the foremost educational centres in the world. We propose to increase from time to time the op- pcrtunities in public schools Ind edu- cational centres for pupils to study for the calling to which they are particu- larly fitted." Dollar for Dollar. Progressive Leader and then for (1" Opposition generally. And this advie was: "Look at the rising, not tho :2" ting. sun. Look ahead with tronfitirroe and optimism. And let my honorabal friends see to it, that they give roam): ablr support to this sound, progressir" Ctr.cient government that will gnaran tee security and prosperity in in: Province."