Mr. Mahoney suggested that the jur- hdiction of the Victoria Parks Com- mission at Niagara Palis be extended from Niagara to the end of the lake, in order to make possible a highway which would be " great a tourist-attracting asset in 20 years as the present road along the river. Pathetic Picture. .1Neodore Legault (Liberal. Sturgeon Falls) painted a pathetic picture of conditions in Ontario as he saw them So tar as population is concerned. he (isolated. this Province was practically _- H "_-_- ____ --v.l......v dy'v'll, an "£11011 "C said his judgment in enlisting under the Ferguson banner last election had Been amply Justuied. Mr. Colquhoun charged liquor with a lot of "black marks." Mr. Sandy feared for the fate ot Premier Perguson's townships school bill, and Mr. Ball gave more publicity to the Volstead Act than has been heard heretofore this session in argu- ing the merits of the Liquor Control that counties, assured that the high- way: would come to them free of cost, would "lay back and do no work at on." He further said that such an ar- rangement would mean that the Gov- ernment would be swamped with peti- tions for roads. Thomas J. Mahoney (Conservative, South Wentworth) defended the Gov- ommeut's attitude toward old-age pen- dons and its policy of 80 per cent. pay- ment toward Provincial Highways con- tstruction. One hundred per cent. pay- ment ot highways, as advocated in the Miller-Prouis amendment now before "theAo1trt,wtruld mean. Am his opinion, Prom Mr. Mahoney the House had a lot of interesting information about native wine growing. Mr. Legault, who is dubbed in some quarters as "the silver-tongued orator from the North," painted a "blue-ruin" picture ot pres- ent-day conditions, which contrasted chm-ply with his smiling countenance. Mt Gardiner deplored the tardiness with which the Government is getting Hydro to the actual farmer. Mr. Calder Haggai: eloquent speech, in which he Opposes 100 Per Cent. There was some new wheat and a lot of old straw threshed in the Budget debate tn the Legislature yesterday. Speakers got away to an early start in the after- ttttttn, and kept the machinery running until sharp 12 o'clock midnight. when E. Blake Miller, Liberal, East Elgin, after half an hour's speech, secured the ad- Journment of the drbate until Tuesday next, in spite ot a mild protest from Premier Ferguson that the. House should not rise until he had finished. P. G. Sandy. Progressive, South Vic- toria; Christopher Gardiner. Progressive. East Kent, and E. Blake Miller, Liberal, Bast Elgin, made their second bow to the Mouse in a speaking role since the pres- ent session opened. Among the first-time performers ot the session were: T. J. Mahoney,' Conservative. South Went- worth: Theodore Legault, Liberal. Stur- ceon Fails; Rev. A. C. Calder. Conser- vative. West Kent. and H. H. Ball, Con- servative. Toronto (Eglinton). whose of- fering. by the way, was his maiden one. Many Men, Many Minds. HYDRO EXTENSION CONSIDERED SLOW Sturgeon Falls Member Suggests Depart- ment of Colonization, With Bonus for Settlers ORATOR FROM NORTH PAINTS BLUE PICTURE OF ONTAltlO'S STATE Kari Homuth (Conservative, South f waterioo)---surety my honorable friend 1 does not mean to imply that the in- dlgent old people ot this Province are , forced to go to houses of refuge because of indulgence in liquor? Christopher Gardiner (Progressive, East Kent) suggested that perhaps the Government was making a mistake In sending immigrants to Northern On- tario, where it was so difficult to make a living out of farming. He thought that the Government might ttnance settlers on farms in Western Ontario. More Liquor in Future. On the matter of supplying Hydro power to the rural sections of the Prov- ince he declared that the Government's policy appeared to be that the policy could not be changed-Fruits oft the Hydro." Of the 5 per cent. of the total power reported to be going to the rural sections, only 1 per cent., he said, actu- ally reached farmers. The rest went to the small municipalities. "Slow busr. ness." he called it, estimating that it would be half a century before the dis- tribution of Hydro to farmers would become general. French-Canadian Bulwark. , Rev. A. C. Calder (Conservative, West Kent) declared that the French-Cana- dians of the Province were a valuable asset in that as landed proprietors they were "bulwarks against Bolshevism or any other 'ism' or 'spasm' which threat- ened our social life" and expressed the opinion that when the people ot the Province fully understood the principle of the abolition ot Regulation 17 they would be fully in accord with the policy of the Government. -- , -- .. Mr. Gardiner believed that the Liquor Control Act should be given a fair trial, but it looked to him as though condi- tions were getting worse. "Liquor cre- ates an appetite for itself," he said, "and the more sold now the more will be sold in the future." - For relief Mr. Leeann suggested a Department of Colonization with Mr. Finlayson at its head, and that the settlers he offered a bonus--415 to clear their land and $15 to out it under the plow per acre. .. . at a standstill. Business was shrink- ing, farms dwindling in size, half the workmen working for starvation wages. Despite the vast natural resources of the Province, Ontario had to enter the liquor business to round out its revenues. Settlers were of more importance to the Province than automobile tourists. Mr. Legault said, urging that more of the money spent on Northern Ontario highways should have gone for the construction, of settlers' roads. ' Does the' honorable member know," questioned Hon, William Finlayson. "that of the $5,000,000 spent on North- ern roads more went for settlers' roads than for highways?" Mr. Legal-at I understand it---- Mr. Finlayson-That is the trouble. You don't understand it. Bonus for Settlers. The Government. he complained. was not as deeply interested in the welfare of the Northern Ontario settlers as it should be. "We get about $5,000,000 9. year out of timber and turn it over for settle- ment," retorted Hon. William Finlay- son. A. A. Colquhoun (Liberal, South Perth) expressed the opinion that if the Government saw fit to continue its present policy of making the counties pay 20 per cent. of the cost of county roads it might, as an alternative, raise its grant for township roads to 50 per cent In referring to the Liquor Control Act, Mr. Colquhoun suggested that a large percentage of the indi- gent poor had been placed in that po- sition by, indulgence in liquor. _ u , travet, , Mr. Go1quhoun---Not in every case, ibut a large percentage-about 85 per ' cent. 1 Mr. Homuth was incredulous. "Do you want to make this House believe I that 85 per cent. of the indigent poor 'ot this Province are in that position j because of 1lquor?'Ut asked. P. o. Sandy (Progressive, South Vie- toria) spoke at some length on the question of co-operative marketing and what it meant to the farmer in the way of benefits. deploring the fact that cer- tain Toronto newspapers seemed to be going out ot their way to educate the public to steer clear of co-operative mar- keting. He thought their attitude "very unfair." "Hydro at Reasonable Rate." Mr. Sandy urged the Government to bring in compulsory automobile insur- ance. Proceeding, he said: "Put Hydro out to the farms at a price they can afford to pay for it." Many of the mis.. tresses ot homes in the country were girls just out of normal school. who were entitled to the best in the way of living-furthermore. expected it---hut who couldn't be expected to stay there unless things were made brighter and more up-to-date. "Give those homes Hydro at a reasonable rate," said Mr. Sandy. "and the Government will go a long way toward relieving an unfortu- nate situation." Mr. Ball made reterende to the Liquor Control Act and alcohol generally from a new angle. "His Own Little Still." Betore Mr. Homuth could say any- thing more he was reminded by Liberal Leader Sinclair that he was not sitting in his own seat, and therefore could not speak. Mr. Homuth sank back into the chair. muttering (but not loud enough, for the whole House to hear) "Pooh, pooh." Quoting an article to show that the human system needed alcohol and that there was machinery in the system to provide it, Mr. Ball said: "Every human is endowed with his own little still. Those whose still is not working pro- perly should have recourse to a little stimulant from outside." E. Blake Miller (Liberal, East Elgim said the only way to measure the suc- cess or failure of the Liquor. Control Act was by its gross results, and one. of the results was the reappearance ot H. H. Ball (Conservative, Toronto-Eg- linton). in his maiden speech, paid trib- ute to the Leader of his party, 7 "About 85 Per Cent." "ME; do1t1utioun---Eitrhty-tive per cent of pauperism has been caused by liquor YES. Mr. Miller declared that the North- ern Development Board had two pur- poses: the first to give relief and en- couragement to the people of the North country, and the other to cre- ate a. "Tory rampart" in Northern On- tario. "mesponsible collection and ex- penditure of money will bring its re- ward," he said. "No democratic people can be permanently corrupted without resenting it." the "golden cures," and "Keeley Insti- tutes for drunkenness." These institu- tions had disappeared following the in- troduction of the Ontario Temperance Act, he said. Another result of the Liquor Control Act, Mr. Miller said, was the tiued jails. "You have very nearly got to book your reservations in advance to get into them." he said.