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| working harmoniously together for) a common cause and for a common, purpose, for the people’s welfare,| and for true domocracy—those ideals are living still, and I believe| they were the inspiration of Macken- zie King and the other men who led us in the last election.” Major Tolmie said he believed the good times would come back, be- cause Mackenzie King, Fielding, Graham and others of the Cabinet had sat round the table with Sir Wilfrid and would carry on the! ideals which that siatesman present- ed to the country. The Ideals at Queen's Park. Col. Cooper, M.P.P. Northwest To- ronto, seconding Major ‘Tolmie’s| ™ motion on responsible government, said the Liberal party was the one! party in Canada which had never | linked to another party, and eas, it did not propose io do n@w.! |(Cheers.) He declared that 9g Farmers’ party believed in gove?.i- iment of the people by the U.F.QO. for ithe U.F.Q. Mr. Pinard, M.P.P., joining in the discussion, said: “If we are going to take care to have responsible g0V- ernment. we must also take care to have a responsible Opposition. (Cheers.) We must not have any- body who would sell himself, heart and soul, to the Government of the day. For eight years j have been fighting, and I want to go on fight- ing. There are some members who have not been. I will name one of them. 1 think Mr, Curry should be read out of the party.” There were cries of order, while others applauded. It was some time* | before Mrs. Carpenter, who was pre-} | siding, could get order restored. Mr. | | Pinard continued: “I hope you will |not give a man a chance for they Leadership who has flirted with th U.F.O., or who is now flirting wit the U.F.O. Give us a Leader who is a Grit, first, last and all the time.” Mr. Curry Affirms His Faith. } Mr Pinard had no sooner left the platform than Mr. Curry rose in the audience. His rising was % signal for hissing from one part of the hall, and for some applause in an- other. He was invited to spens from the platform, and there was a noisy | demonstrativn as he made his way ; to the front, Some shoutel, “Throw | him out!’ Others booed, while others | shouted, “Order, order! Give him a | chance. This is a Liberal meeting.” | The noise continued when Mr. Curry got to the platform, and only | subsided after a man had moved (that the galleries be cleared if the interruptions continued, and Mrs. | Carpenter made an appeal “to give | Mr. Curry British fair play.” A i young man in the gallery was asked 1} in particular to refrain from inter- if rupting and shouting. His associates promised future good behavior for / ism than I have. (Cries of “Booh.’’) / «¢ worked for the party in 191i, jand I didn’t in ‘ig true that I haven't seen things ‘ just the same as my Leader in past | ter. oe ones ‘ize those who are now seeing the him. : “IT have spoken before’ in this | building to Liberal gatherings,” | said Mr. Curry. “I have never wav- | ered in my Liberalism, no matter} what any man says. I have always) been, and always will be, a believer in Liberalism.” “No, no! What about 1917?” asked a delegate, and there was more confusion, f “~ believed we needed conscrip- tion. I never concealed it. I never will conceal it. It ‘was with no pleasure or gladness that I did sup-- port it.” “You voted for Foster." ' “yes, I voted for Foster, and, x believed, in the best interest of the | Empire.” Mr. Curry said he - mired Sir Wilfrid Laurier. “You crucified him,’ came from | the audience. 1 Claims Service to Liberalism. i} “1 erucified nobody. It doesn't | lie in the mouth of any man to say that he has done more for Liberal- i 1917 because Il thought conscription necessary. it ‘sessions. It is nota personal mat- The Conservatives have the ‘cities. It is the rural places that are ‘the seed beds and granaries of Lib- ‘eralism. (Applauge.) I think it be- ‘hooves the Liberals not to antagon- ee ' ! Liberal light. To legislation along | Liberal lines let us give Liberal sup- port. That is the end I am seeking to serve. Nobody has ever heard -me ,utter anything but praise for Lib- jeral principles. ; “I know I am a Liberal. There is “no man, even ‘from Ottawa, who is ja better Liberal, and Ill be a Liberal /when he is not.” Mr. Curry was in- ‘formed that his time was up. He left j the platform amid applause mixed with hisses. Resolution on Economy. _ Mr. Sinclair, in moving his resolu- tion on economy, pointed out that in the early ‘'70’s the expenditure of Ontario was $2,500,000, or about $1 per head. At the end of the Liberal Administration of 32 vears it was $5,267,000, or $2.50 per head. At the end of the Conservative regime in 1919 it was $47,000,000, or $18 per head. ; Then came the U.F.O., with its | promises of retrenchment and cut- | ting down, but yet at the Jast session | it was found that the sum of $85,-. 000,000 had been spent, or $30 per | head. In spite of the revenue go- ing up seven millions, the Govern- ment had a deficit of $800,000. “Because of that financial record itself it is impossible for the Lib- erals to unite with the U.F.O. | (Applause.) Liberals do not want |to lose their unique record of con- ‘sistent economy.” C. W. Kerr, in’ _seconding the resolution, said that | See had ‘“‘come back’’ financially 'under a Liberal regime. | ; } } } , Future Is With Electricity. Mr. Conant, Oshawa, in” moving (his motion on Hydro-radials, spoke of the financial problems facing the Province, ‘“‘which have been dealt with by Mr. Sinclair, who, I hope, will be our Leader.”’ “In the present state of enlight. enment it does not appear to me that any very comprehensive scheme of radials now would be in accord with things financially. I think we should be agreed that the way to solve the gigantic reilway problem is not by building more railways, It does seem to me that our past ex- | periences in railway questions might be duplicated by the construction of parallel radials. “Broadly speaking, the resolution is that Northern Ontartfo or the Ot- tawa district should not pay for radials at Niagara. If municipalities | wish to build radials they should be- given every opportunity to do so, We believe in home rule for municipali- ties. If they see fit to operate radials, every facility should be af- forded them to do so. If lines are! parallel, it is their concern, and not ours, We would like to see the vot- ing in municipalities for these radials the same as for money by- laws. “There is no question that the future of railway transportation is electrical energy. Certainly it is in Ontario, because we have the largest generators in the world. It is the safe jand sane thing that they be used to electrify existing lines. We expect to have electric. power in abundance, and electrification will go a long way | to solve the railway problem and it will help us find a market for the immense power quantity from the Chippawa.” | F. E. O'Flynn of Belleville second- ed the resolution, saying if munici- palities wanted radials they should have them, but districts not benefit- ed should not be asked to help pay for them. Thomas McMillan, Huron, and W. J. Bragg. Northumberland. _ moved | ‘the resolution for agricultural am | /couragement. Both spoke of the necessity for encouragement to the farmers. Would Revivify Liberal Clubs. Ww. K. Murphy, Toronto, moved a motion for the reorganization of the Federated Liberal Clubs. The future of Liberalism, he said, de- pended on educating the young men and women in Liberalism, and for this purpose the clubs were the best means. Mr. Conant supported | the resolution and Madame Belan-! . ger, speaking in French, read from a speech by Sir Wilfrid Laurier, telling of his appreciation of the Federated Clubs. She told of the} Stawa Liberal Women’s Clubs and | , r work. Be