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l .. tin" _ / I " "nuns or the on. . . ' _ re ' no-0"... at: GpviirGiirii [sir.teCi'i"ll'iti'u",tt,',g,'t1t; Mr. Closer-Before the hon. gentleman their case -upon the 0 reads it I may tell him there is no truth ' speeches. He was sure the Malawian?" in the report. on which they had' dwelt would not le: Mr.-Balrour then read the report of Mr. CDT"! the country very much. .l'li/. Clancy's speech as printed in The Chat- ' , v ancy had confessed that his speech was ham Planet, from which it appeared that ' ery much a repetition of former Btat he had contrasted unfavorably the inan- ments. Well. as such it had already e- agement of the Provincial timber resourc- , reported in previous sessions and It',,',",,' es with the "admirable way" in which t sinitular confession of We'akness in" the Dominion Government treated its tim- \ the critics of the Government had to pat ber resources. Mr. Clancy said he thought i' Jfl,'2"l?, year after year, after they had the hon. gentleman should accept his re- , een again and again refuted the st inhibition of the statement. arguments. Mr. Clancy had started at}: Mr. Balfour said of course he must ac- a statement that direct taxation was u _ cept such a denial, but added, amid the on us. That was an old story It. Jt laughter of the House, that the sentences always very prominently put formal! :5 he had quoted really read so much like the eve of the election. He did not iii, in what the hon. gentleman might have been people Would worry great] - t " t expected to say that he might be excused They would hardly regard asyl "1:9." it. for supposing that the speech was deliv. of direct taxation the 1 T I." cutionig ered by Mr. Clancy's twin brother, or stared them in the face 'ii/ll? facts that somebody very like him. However, he assets of the 'Province had I: "the surplus was glad to see the hon. gentleman did in: 1898 by a quarter of a n'fllifelttl, dur- not approve of the timber policy of the _ and that the Provinc id on dollars, Ottawa Administration. dollars . a e ad over a million . Hon. Mr Ha d -H w cash on hand at the present . ' r y e repents. ment. The" Pt',",.? ata - 'a'..Mirrt T Turning tor a moment to the views on {get taxation. It. Clancy had dwelt on er 0 t . ae -, ' ' "1 " by the lead- a e increase in Civil government. and had Meredith's position in . , . . Igned that the increase was out of queer. He had taken strong group upo Jl'i,0'lflht"e, to the increase of iropulacion. the wasting of timber, and thought that 1leeh/pi.1dui.tg.1. the nugie ot Mr. Ross. the debt _should have been curtailed rather ment tli "tum ' "5 aut ority for the state- than the timber sold. What did they -___ - a an increase in civil govern- mean ? Would they have the timber merit was an indication of oxiraVagance. stand there till it rotted , Would they 'f/sell',',.",,',', yye'e! trom the budget speech have the great timber industry, giving o Mr. Ross in 1884 to show that he had work to thousands of men, brought to an said nothing of the sort, but had plainly end t The platform that the lumbering stated that an increase in the expendi- business should be killed, and the trees ture on civil government was absolutely allowed to rot.was not one likely to please necessary as the population increased. the country. A fair and reasonable poli- He had said the per capita expenditure cy, such as that pursued by the Govern- had increased. He was not fair in this ment, was more likely to find favor. Mr. criticism. He had been taking a period or Balfour then turned to the question of ten years. but in this case, instead of surveys. and took' up Mr. Meredith's ob- comparing the per capita expenditure ct jectlon to the expenditure of 339.000 for 1883 with that of 1893. he had taken that surveying "townships in the wilderness." of 1883 and some Intervening year in His quotations were not tair, for they which the expenditure Was large. In this purported to be reports from the 'aurvey- . way he had brought the per capita ex- I ore of tho townships, but were from a penditure up to $1 84. whereas for new the i commission to report upon the national per capita expenditure was only " N. In 3 _ . park. The impression would be left seVeral other respects Mr. Clancy ttttttr by Mr. Meredith's quotation that not been at all fair in his comparison. l all the new townships were lie did not give the Government crodit l like the proposed park. But for economy in any direction. He tztikud I those townships were selected for the of direct taxation as staring us in the park precisely because they were. not suit-i face on the one hand, and on the other I ed for agriculture. And from those town-l ignored entirely the prospects of I ships there was obtained $1,483,000 for the ' decreased expenditure on certain lines. l timber. l He said nothing whatever of the way tn i Mr. Clancy-They were laid out in town- y which the Government was reducing its i ship lots. . railway and annuity liabilities. which Iron. Mr. Hardy-No. In lots or 1,000 alone would show a tremendous decrease "MUS each. f in the course of the next few years. Mr. Mr. Balfour then maintained that the ' Clancy did not either take into account l returns obtained from the timber sales' the fact that expenditure on account of l would more than pay for the surveying public buildings would materially decrease expenses. It costs $1.600 to survey a town from this time forward. It would be $1;00,- ( ship, and when mining locations are taken unless tor 1894 than for 1893 There was po no the expense of surveys is more "YY' evidence of the approach oi insect taxa- I met. Does not the surveying help the tion in this. More than this, Mr. Clancy miner. and are there not complaints that had not been careful to compare all his the Government (1an not help the mining arguments of this year with those ot interests? Mr. Balfour then referred in last year. Last year in his speech he I strong terms to the policy of the Opposi- had said, in speaking ot the management tlon in opposing every measure of the of the Crown Lands Department, that ( Government. and asked why they should between 1883 and 1893 the cost of man- l in this case run down those new districts agemcnt had increased from tG.00o tor and try to dissuade settlers from 30ml; $131,000, or by 96 per cent., which he styled into them. Hp citvd .v,tirviyp,:rs' in ports to 'ea great increase." Show how valuable many ot thrs" lzillilb' Mr. craucy--Were not those tlguves are tor agricultural purposes. and thou- right ? favorable reports are not exceptional. lit, uMr. Balfour admitted they were, but. theLaki-'l'cnilScuniingiit-district there are asked Mr. Clancy to wait a moment. Con- 1 000 square miles, M) per cent. of which _i.f.e,-'l tinuing, Mr. Balfour said that in his good li.nd; in the Rain) River district speech on the present occasion Mr. Clancy there is good land ; in both these districts 'had referred again to the same subject. the soil It,' as good as that of Manitoba. but under changed circumstances. He and with a better climate. The popula- ', had again quoted the cost of management tion in these is steadily increasing. Why in 1883 as being $67,000, and had then quoted do not the Opposition drop their unpat- l that ot 1893 as $97,193, tshowing, he had said, riotic carping, course ? Three-fourths of i "the enormous increase" of 45 per cent. the townships surveyed since Contedera- Bo, when the increase was 96 per cent., it tion have had either actual settlers or was called a "great increase." and when locations made in them. is not this the it fell to 45 per cent. his language drew _ltime to make surveys. when millions are more extreme, and he styled lt "an onor- coming in from the timber on these lands ? mous increase." As his case grew worse Thu lands in much ct the older portions) he became more desperate. The cost had of Ontario. even the garden of Ontario, Jseen greatly reduced from last year, and the Counties ot Essex, Kent and Lambb n, l yet he spoke more violently in condcmiia- were formerly spoken ot in Just the same tion of it than he did last year. Another terms us those used of these new lands thing. If the year 1873, twenty years ago, by the Opposition. Mr. Balfour then were taken. instead of 1883, the flgures of touchul on the license question, and the the cost ot management of the depart- contention that the Province robs the mun- ment were seen to be $110,000. Thus, there icipalitiis of license moneys due them. Sec- was a decrease between tm and 1893 of tion w, of the L'.N.A. act showed conclus- 13 per cent. in the cost 'n'tu,'1',tfie.""es'lti, ively that the Province has the undoubtedl He was not able to sustain" 9 CtWe. Mr. right to take all the license fees. But the! Clancy and his leader had dwelt at some Province returns a portion ot the license length with the timber question. Mr. fees, and the municipalities receive Just Clancy had on a former. occasion expressed as much as ever they did before the Gov- the View that the management of its tim- ctnment took charge of the fees. The Ag- her resources by the Local Government ricultural College came next. Mr. Clancy' could not be compared with the manage- had spent nearly an hour in reviling that, ment of the timber resources at tho dispos- institution, and when remonstrated with ' clot the Dominion Government. had replied, "What are we here for I'" Mr. Clancy dissented from this. 'Why did not the leader of the Opposition Mr. Balfour said he had anticipated Mr. A restrain his followers from attacking that; Clancy's repudiation. and BO had "0""th college, which was intended for the sons; himself with a report of the hon. member s / of the farmers of the Province, as he so; speech, delivered some months since in i f carefully restrained them trom attacking! his constituency. The report had appear- 1' / Toronto University or Upper Canada Col-l ed in The Chatham Planet. .1 / loge. an institution for the classes. . , r . __.-----------