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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 15 Mar 1889, p. 1

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MARCH 15, 1889. The Home doee not often sit on e Friday evening, and doubtless touiay would have been no exception to the rule lied . not the iceuee (iebnte'come up again and displayed en inclination to go beyond six o'clock. That wan the principal bunineee of the day. THIRD annulus. The following bills wore reed e third time c--. To amend the Act ineorporutiug the Torn-bigot Peleer-yr.Bsufour. _. ' Relpoc'ting appeal: on prosecution: to anion. penalties and otlences under Pro; vingitl Act-The AttornerGenyrl. - To authorise the Synod a the Diocese of Huron to sell certain hutdts--hir. Meredith. __ Respecting the consolidation of the " bonture debt. of the City of Toronto-hir, E. F. C'Urke. -- "it; Giikiih. Pharmacy Act-Mr. Gib. Iog (Httnilton). . . -i?, give rep'resentation in the Legitlative Alum 1y to the District ofNipusitu--Mr. Htrdr. _ _ --- _ . -iiiaeting the Niagara & St. Catharines Stljeot Railway 'untPut--M..r. Unreal]. . Ur. Horodith's Motion Dernsastestt-Tt" vauion on the Itetroitttion-Mr. Goa-son's Bill to Enable Young Men's Salaries to I). Garnish"! - A Second Polio. Italian". "Rapcgtiugq tid,IG'd, of the Baptist Convention of Ontario and Queboe--Mr. Dry, den. _., ___. Then the Home went into committee and advtusmrd . number of bills a. stage. worse MEN'S wars. A considerable discussion occurred over that chum in Mr. Gibson's bill to amend the Division Com-ts Act, that proposes to amend that point in tho present Act which enable. . young unmuried man, with no- body to lupr-urt but himself, to con- we: debts with tradesmen that he never . _. I . A - I, I "- .l.. A." tl THE DEBATE RESUMED. [one TALK ON MR. MERIDITH'S LICENSE nEsoLUTION'. The debate on Mr. Meredith', license reeolutiou was renewed. Dr. Wylie took up the thread oi the diucusitsion and epo he for over tmlf en hour. He reiterated the .rgumente edveneed by other gentiemen on hie eide of the Home. and insisted that this we! too free e country to allow of one-men government, Which wee, he contended, what the preeent administration of the license system amounted to. " Mr. M1tuughlittyssurd that if the Ilqn. a OF THE DEBATE ON THE LICENSE QUESTION. ,SALIjLJg'D11AIAiiTiEi-lif LEGISLATURE. tF 2,'t', the h _ l titling of I Avrey insiste: l had seen the y .u he said he -,the [urbreukq u talking t uker loft t . EN ' DEBATE hen the l the folk outiti p for ' on member fur East I4ortttunttterlattd honutly and sincerely believed one-half the chlrglfi be tttud. yegtuliuy he"!!! t.s.uyortyr, of his ~- .___eee__ J"""""' --- ~-~r~ v v ttht: in the iii/U if he did not fort ate these charges and have them investi- gsted in a proper way. These gonertl charges meant nothing. He (Mr. McLaugh- lin) might as well stand up and charge the hen. gentleman with being dishonest. with 1 being a thick. That would prove nothing, and would it not he cowardly on his part to make such a charge without substantiating it? Mr. McLaughlin avowed in the most distinct manner that so far as his own riding was concerned the commissioners and inspector had never used their influence, directly or indirectly, to effect/any election. Asaproof oi the satisfactory working of the license system he itstanced the fact that not a single petition had been presented to the House seeking its repeal. On the contrary, they found Temperance organisations and Church courts time and again endorsing this very principle that had been embodied in the Crooks Act. The Conservative was a peculiar specimen of the genus home. Here, where they had no power, they opposed the interests of their iricuds, the liquor dealers, whereas " Ottawa they objected to every attempt to improve the Scott Act. it was at Ottawa responsibility rested for the fail." of the measure. The difficulty in securing a second or third conviction under that Act wss not due to the Provincial otficssrs, but to the fact that tho owners of barrooms after being once convicted leased their hrs to seine one else, who in turn, if convicted, leased to smother person, and so on. but your at Ottawa they introduced n measure to cripple the Act still further, taking nwny the power to put the seller of liquor into the witness box. This resolution he characteriseed as the worn blunder the leader of the Opposition Ind ever made. He was wenkcninz on this lubject. In 1883 he favored handing this license matter over to the County Councils; now he wanted to hand it our to nobody knew where ; and by next session he (Mr. McLsughlin) hoped he would have neon his or"! and come back prepared to soy. leave it in the hands of the Government.. -- Mr. Metcalfo then entertained the House with one of his cuntonnry romurkuble Ipooclges, Lind before he My} eqded had put the Home into roars o not be said, however, t increased the stock oi a support tho amendment. Mr. Aqu. in a. vigorom half-hour moch, put plainly before the House the two position of the question, and showed the foundationlou churnctor of the charges ttorthumberUnd, and in teking exception i to them was several times interrupted by d the doctor, who, as Mr. Awrey pointed out, I Deanne very uneiny under s enreiul analysis t of the statements he had used in draw. I In his extraordinary picture of the state of g '.'lklll' prevailing, According to him, in the l [Ming of East Northumberland. Mr. I 'arrerinsisted, too, that ii Dr. Willoughby l had seen the Scott Act no fUgrtustly abused I 'u he laid he had, it was his duty to call 1 e lawmakers to account. Mr. Awrey 1 u talking until six o'clock, when the 1 her leit the chair. I . EVENING SESSION. I DEBATE DRAG! ITS WEARY LENGTH . ALONG. en the House met after the adjourn- 0 following bill was introduced 2- _ osttitlct.1..fn Act to make further for religious instruction-The _ choral. then root end continued his speech on the license question. He midi that the charge mania against is large num. bur of citizens oi the l'rovineo by the Oppo- sition Was one that could not be substituti- atotl, it being imposaihle for any person to :know under the ballot how any persons ', vote. In East NortitutttlrerUud it was ' proved that the Conservatives had such a. system that the votes of doubtful electors were scurtenieeil by i a apygluss by the supporters of Dr. , Willoughby. (Great laughter.) The voters f placed their ballots against the window pane and then Dr. Willoughby put the spy- t glue to his go to sun that it was murked ' as he wanted. The policy which the 0p- position propoundud was certainly not hw- l arable to Temperance, but after all it was ' . dith'culo to nuke oat what the policy at the) undo. He took up several oi Dr. Willouéh- by's "laments as to practice: in East 16, 1889; 18 of laughter. It Gn. that he materially arguments used to E Fielder of thi' triii7aTirois"rui.ir "an"; A' ', would produce better contests in the muni- l .oipelities, because the first oonaideruion", . at the meeting of the County Council I . would be as to the complexion of "the license commissioners and the inspec- tors to be appointed to regulate the liquor f trudfie during the your. The ministers of ' the Gospel hove never yet been heard to re- monstrate agoinst the Crooks Act, but I ' ' Church courts lied declared that it was the l l , best license system that could be got in any l ' I country. The Connervetives had of late ( ' ( taken u great hstred to Mr. Luttridge, of I Hamilton, the reason being that this gen- I tleman, like runny others. had come to the , eoucltuiou that the Mowut Government t was one deserving of contideuee. More. t I over, Mr. Lottridge left the Conser- l ', votive psrty beceuse Sir John Mae. I i donald broke faith with the Brew. , .ers' Association of'the Province. In . doing this he did not act more tseifisls than f Senator Seniord, of Hamilton, who left the t Reform psrty because the leader of the l Conservative party promised him and other . manufacturers protection at the expense of , i the consumers. The Slot) license commis. 1 5 sionsrs of the Province are beyond reproach, l l and it was mischievous to bring the charges 3 against them hurled by the Opposition. In f his constituency the iutlaeneo of the license l commissioners was on the side of religion f and Temperance. Thut was, he believed, t the record ot the license commissioners o throughout the Province. It Was a fact e that the clergy and moral men were on the e side oi the Government. (Cheers.) Mr. Clancy claimed that the arguments of the Opposition were not met fairly by the speakers on the Government side oi the House. The chsrge made by himself and his friends was that the license law was " ministered from a partisan standpoint, and, consequently not in the bept interests of Temperance. He would say that his own party would not administer the present law free from the imperfections or the past. The system is open to objections, but these had not been met fairly-side issues having been introduced by Government speakers. Mr. Clancy proceedrd then to lecture the House on the high party spirit prevailing in the Province; blaming this (or the evils; noticeable in the working of the Crooks Act. , lie would, however, not any that, a muni- _ cipal election could be conducted without potty strife, but at the same time tho poo ple should be entrusted with the powers sou ht for them by the member for London. i lr. Wood, of Brunt, a gentleman who has made considerable progress as adebater this session,tlien got on his feet and discuss- ed the license question in a moderate and liberal.minded manner. He summed up F Mr. Clancy's speech pretty correctly, de. scribing it as three-quarters of an hour of talk With very little in it. The whole ( attitude of the Opposition, said Mr. Wood, 3 seemed to he that of men who Were urging the public to complain. while the public was too satisfied to think about complain: ing. Mr. Meredith talked a good deal about his eotttideuce in the people, but the people did not seem to show as much con~ tidence in him; and when it came to the point the member for London did not seem to have such contidenee in the people after all, otherwise he would have trusted the people in this mat- ter, and waited for them to compluin before he began this agitation. The speaker twitted Mr. Meredith, too, with favoring the transfer of the license sdministretive power to the County Councils in his speech, but with lining left it out of his reso. lution. .. Dr. Meacham denied that the member for London had introduced the resolution front party motives. That charge was not con- eisteut with the second charge,tliat he knew he had a weak case and was overatating the feats. How could he benefit his party unless he were on the popular side in the matter? He proceeded to claim that. the Government had broken its promise as to non-partisan administration of the license law under the Crook' Act, and had gener- ally manipulated it to their political advan- tage. l -- n . ., .u A 1A --- _..:a.- "UL an" v-BVI Mr. Duck said that it was quite evident the object of the leader of the Opposition in bringing forward the motion before the House Want to manufacture thunder for tho next election. During the last election the crusade was against Roman Catholics, and it looks that from this out the Conservative policy is to be one of ridiculous and unsub- uuutintod criticism of the license luv. Mr. Ballantyue maintained that the Crooks Act was the heat piecesonogitlHiott.tvc) passed in the House and was acredit to the Govern. 53E

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