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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 14 Jan 1878, p. 4

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f » 3 t uk . + + C ; -- were willing that a reasonable portion of shed. Canadians had long maintained, and j the revenues should be devoted to the de-- continued to maintain, posts on the Abbit-- | . velopment of our territory, _ With regard to f tibi, the Albany, and other rivers to the : . the Toronto and Ottawa Railway, he did not north of it, and it could not be shown that | know whether, if the bonus had been f | they ever entertatned any idea of receding voted by the city, he would have sup-- from these posts > from their settlements | ported the grant of a subsidy for that line ; ' on the Winnipeg and the Saskatchewan still ; neither was he prepared to say he would | further to the north,. Why,then, assert that have yoted to refuse it, He considered the | both countries seem to have acquiesced in remarks of a preceding speaker in reforence the idea, for 'after all it was only an to the presence of laymen in the Cabinet idea, and rather a wild one at that. | were uncalled for ; so long as those com-- He (Mr. Dawson) was not prepared to say | . posing the Government were fit and proper | that a case might not be made out for the persons to discharge the duties incumbent bheight of land line, if we were to be tpon them, it was immaterial whoether tl:qy guided alone by the charter. But the were lawyers or not, _ After expressing his validity of tho charter had never been fully pleasure at hearing that the immigrati¢a established, All he contended was that a of late years was improving, the speakor good case had not been made out by Mr. went on to refer to our educational systen . Ramsay, There were weak points, too, in Whila he thought the new Modcl School his report regardingithe early discoveries of would prove a great benefit, he could no. y . Hudson's Bay and the first advent of the | conceal from himself the fact that a great traders to that region. ~'The document was, | many people, especially in the rural dis-- no doubt, hastily got up and the subject tricts, had arrived at the conclusion that our imperfectly understood by its author. school system is becoming too complicated } Taking the matter as it now stood, the case and extensive, and that too much power | ot Ontario was very fully .set forth in the was vested in the officials. (Hear, hear.) reports before the House, 'The matter was | So strong was this feeling among some of in the hands of arbitrators, eminent alike ' his constituents, that they were discussing from their position and ability, and we | the advisability of stwting schools of must patiently abide the result. It was their own, The hon. member for Simcoe highly important to Ontario that she should | (Mr. Macdougall), in criticising the recont | possess the country drained by the waters of ! School Commission, had said it was the duty Rainy River and the Winnipeg, for there | of the Minister to investigate such charges were forests there which would become very | himself. N ow, he (Mr, McMahon) was very valuable, trom the fact that wide regions to | glad that the head of the Education Depart-- the west were without timber, On thcl ment had not conducted the enquiry, Had north the Province should reach to Hudson's | he done so what would have been the re-- Bay, for there might yet be a groat trade on | sult? The Opposition would have at once that sea, now that steam had rendered its | charged that his only object was to white-- navigation easy during the few open months ; wash the defendants. (Mear, hear, and of summer. And it should not be forgotten cheers.) The matter was leit to a fair and that the nearest route to England for impartial judge, and while he was not pre-- | the produce of a considerable part of the pared to say whether his decision was just | North--west was through Hudson's Bay. { or unjust, he was not prepared to endorse | _ _Mr. MoMAHON said theSpeech from the | the unqualified condemmnation of it by the -- Throne Lad been the cause of considerable | hon, member for Simcoe. (Cheers.) He reflection to hon. members on both sides of j trusted the judges of the country. were ahove the House, and he was rather amused at & | suspicion,. (Cheers,) _ Adverting to the little deflection it gave rise to on the part | Crooks Act, he 'thought it had given satis-- | ~ of the hon. member for Hamilton (Mr. Wil-- faction, and that, in the hands of efficient | liams), He (the speaker) was not prepared and proper officials, it eould be as effectually | for the remarks of that hon. gentleman, carried out as any other law on the Statute | but he must come to the conclusion that Book, He regretted very much the deroga-- the North--western Railway had something tory remarks made by the hon. member for ' to do with them, (Laughter.) He thought East Toronto (Mr. Cameron) with refer-- | there was great cause for congratulation in ence to the magistracy. Our magis-- | the abundant harvest with which the coun-- trates would compare well with those | try had been blessed, and he was convinced of any country, and much more favourably ' : that the criticisms of hon, members oppo-- with those on the other side of the line. site with regard to that portion of the (Hear, hear.) _ If there were some illiterate Lieutenant--Governor's Speech were uncall-- persons among them, he had no doubt as ' ed for. (Hear, heary One effect of the many could be classed as friends of hon. prosperous harvest had beon a general re-- gentlemen opposite as friends of hon. mem. | vival of business. If there were not the bers on that side. (Cheers.) 'The hon,| | unusual activity of previous years, it would member for North Renfrew had called the | | owing to the fact that the late depression | Speech an extraordinary document contain. | | had made our people more cautious in busi-- ing nothing. It was strange, however, that | ness matters than formerly. The hon. mem-- the hon.gentleman could succeed in making I [ ber for Renfrew ()Il'. I)('IIL'\'H) said he failed & Iong .'ipL'L'(']l about IlU"lil]f{. (Lm,ghtcr.) | to see any improvement in the lumber trade In concluding he congratulated the houn. in his section of the country ; but the fact | mover and seconder of the Address for the l that timber lands had been recently | able manner in which they had discharged | sold to bona fide llmlbcrn](..'n. was & mu.ch I their duty, 'They were going on to improve 1 ' better evidence of the reviving prosperity | themselves and the affairs of the country so | | of that interest than any expression of | ; that no benefit would accrue by a transfer | | opinion on the partof thathon. member, even ot the reing of Government from gentlemen | though 1t"° rll",'"d" '"t, "";0 ]d'St"C'»"""d | on this side to those on the other, (Cheers.) ! gave most of his attention aw matters, t op i | (Langhter.) I(, as Canadians, they had any-- T tMr.hlr}u(i) IJL;{]I';IIE' :;":ll t{:itm:flnbé;'f'fr Ham; thing to be proud of, he thought it was of ; on o T hoi ue * 10 COYernmen the provision made for those unfortunates iad departed from Mr. Blake's principles, . C but the truth was that Mr. Blake had de-- who were unable to take care of themselves ; id £ hi * finciples 1 A and personally he was pleased at the allu-- {,'2""'1 't'%m ""b?" "f l}'\;!"f'l' '35_"1tl:0§flrd , sion in the Speech to our asylums and chart. th ?l C'""md"'i -('t { ll":"m 18 ho On-- 1 table institulions, _ He was convinced that ! , tario Ca '"3"" &n It- e (l' ll"' tum;S'el °f.'"°f'" | | the exertions of our Government and people ' mons, _ He lc"";" -d'mk;'l tt'" winte it was | with regard to those institutions would | asserted in the & pcc'c & t]m :;good price had | compare favourably with those made by any | been obtained at tll'. ast lumber sale, the | other country in the world. -- 'The subject of | l[ou.se had no information as to the figure railways had been frequently reierred to received, during the debate, _ He could not coincide Mr, PARDEE--The gverage price was with the remarks made by the hon. member $200 per square milo, for Hamilton (Mr. Williams) in regard to Mr. MACDOUGALL (Simcoe)--For how subsidies to raitways. 'Ihe people of this many square miles ? country--those who came here fifty or sixty 3 Imt'ys & 4 years ago, and by dint of hard work and un-- thfnl'(::\bf),:tl:DhL said there were 875 or tiring energy had gained competencies--| # irrp wcrogdesiruul that the prosent generation | hMr.CBOULT}uR WC".tl on to charge that ' should not have to combat those difficulties I the ; rovernment l'tl'"?" to? much , at-- against which they had to contend, and tantion . to _ political _ considerations

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