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2 the tribune thursday april 21 w7 fl dthapar denture therapist 66 brock st west uxbridge 8525291 hours mon to fri by appointment only motorcycles too noisy aints against club continued from page 1 limit on bow many were jwmiwi a the gate otherwise you could have 10000 people councillor jim doble suggested that the dub be given a chance the dub watch for the grand opening anns bargain centre in the stouffville sales barn ladies wear childrens wear mens wear is trying to abide by all the rules- he said however residents owning property in the vicinity of the park disagree and spoke strongly against granting the group a permit a lawyer mr pinelli appeared as spokesman for the landowner im mediately to the north he termed the event a fairly ambitious proposition and said that the burden was on the applicant to prove that a license should be granted he said that the likelihood of 1000 tents on the property will result in a great deal of congestion and that noise and sanitary facilities could contribute to a social disaster he also told council that there was no indication of the number of toilet facilities available and that the club should have presented all the arrangements to council mr pinelli predicted traffic tieups as well you cant expect people to spend three days on the property he said the dubs proposal to help with the policing was also criticized by him its just asking for trouble getting civilian ciub members to police the property if thats not asking for trouble i dont know what is other property owners cited unfortunate experiences for vrhich they blamed the previous patrons of the park and told council they an ticipated nothing but trouble in allowing such a large group of people to camp there weve had people cut down our fences light fires in our bush and just cause a tremendous amount of trouble said charles simmons another landowner said flatly i cant see it last year they had an airplane land in my oat field they had an air show it was 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said one mr bentley told council there would only be at most 100 motor cycles in the event and that there is no noise from these street machines he mentioned that some of the events would be held with the motor off another club official said the last thing we want to do is have trouble with the local people we want to improve our image were not trying to be a pestilence in the end council unanimously rejected the clubs application on the basis that their arrangements such as washroom facilities police protection etc were too nebulous its too bad said bill kamps youre paying for what happened in the past councillor june button told the club the area is not- suitable for your type of event or rally jim doble felt that if the club had applied sooner the details could have been worked out under normal con ditions i would have there have been a number of grass fires in our area recently as the hot weather finally sets in the two firemen above don doner left and jim rennie help to put out one of them walt smith head volunteer fireman estimated that he has had over 10 calls in the past few days he hopes people will be careful when starting fires recretitiqn summer pro grams in doubt as result of budget cuts stouffville two recreation- com mittee summer programs are now in doubt as a result of budget cuts members of council monday voted to allow only an 8 per cent in crease to the budget the request was for 49000 and this then was chopped to just over 45000 the 1976 budget was 42000 councillor bill kamps a member of the committee argued in vain that we have cut it to the bare bones for the first time this year soccer is being of fered and the committee were planning a selfhelp pro grani where youngsters would be taught the basics of various sports and an expansion into stouffville of the playground programs which have operated in ballantrae and vandorf for the- past few years the soccer league seems fairly safe but the approved it he said two are button argued a playground program had been tried in stouffville some years ago and it failed because of a lack of interest mrs wedley coun tered that when the programs in vandorf and ballantrae were publicized in the tribune last summer many parents in stouffville had phoned her to complain because no similar program was operating in the village mrs button said she had received no com plaints but added ill take any complaints any time anybody wants to call me t councillor eldred king introduced a motion that the committee be granted an 8 per cent increase the motion carried mrs wedley later submitted a press release to the tribune stating that the cuts are making it questionable as to whether we can coh- tinue the release con tinued i would ap preciate all parents with children ages 8 to 12 wha want the parks kept open with supervisors toplease write to me at rr3 stouffville and very soon as plans must be made in the next two or three weeks if we are to proceed i beer garden controversy my conscience tells me to vote for your club councillor becky wedley also regretfully turned the application down youre paying for the kind of noise made by a totally different kind of motorcycle she told the club representatives young people like you should be encouraged she also mentioned that she had visited olympia endangered councillor june button was the leading opponent of the parks programs the town and the taxpayers shouldnt r to pay for babysitting whywe have to pay money out for playgrounds in a park ill never know mrs button added there is so much recreation that should be park four times last year selfsupporting children following noise com- dont have to be spoonfed plaint- and had found aiinikm nothing wrong at all continued from page 1 councillor bill kamps took rather a different view of the matter all those statistics come from the way alcohol is presented to children he said in canada the minute you want a glass of beer youre called an alcoholic children should be taught to handle it responsibly canadian liquorlawsforce you to drink as much as possible in as short a time as possible mr kamps feels that if beer is not allowed there will be a lot more drunkenness because people will bring their own liquor if you treat people as adultsthey behave as adults treat them like kids and you force them into immature behaviour was his he declared and thats citizens it wont lead to what causes alcoholism all the murders traffic and lack on control if accidents and rapes that everyone is so worried mr mcnalley feels this would lead to he said is so about it alcohol why doesnt the government close down all liquor establishments mr kamps concluded councillor t becky wedley commented that local feelings were strong against serving beer in a public park and said that people felt children should not be exposed to it mr lewis explained that the whole idea was to mr mcnalley ex- plainedthat he did riot- mean that these things would necessarily happen in stouffville and stated- again that he didnt wish to force his moral views tin anyone the com munity was founded by people of mennonite stock and they built churches not taverns he said by way of exi planation have it all outside and l just as many people likened hiding r beer would be alienated if garden inside to sneaking a glass of wineinithe cupboard i want tocreate an outdoor atmosphere he said and continued ruefully although you all the time in addition mrs contention people have usso scared now sneak off to their car to fence the whole have a few quick ones- wham wham wham s a new ball game jitr isle- motors limited swing aqeal wjfhus pairoftickjets toabluejays baseball game 330 main st west stouffville 6402400 thing i councillor june button had a different reason for taking a no- beer stand i am against the beer garden because its our centennial year and everybody should be happyv she said people who lived here for generations are upset at the controversy centennial celebrations should be an occasion of fun some of- our own library board is- against 1 it the ibeer garden there shouldntbe this hassling we shouldnt f haye this controversy pointed out that this- was she declared politics i- mr lewis replied the matter- of that the fundraising reconsideration of thej committee- fully sup- beer garden decisionwas ported the beer garden r gordon ness the president of the newly formed stouffville- ichamber of commerce also spoke in favour of beer in the park we fully support the library fundraising committee he informed permission for the beer garden was withheld contended mr lewis who said the street dance would in that case have to be cancelled out there would v too many problems with people going in and out withj beer he said councillor doble couldnt see the iogicof that i cant see why you cant have the dance without consumption of alcohol he said councillor eldred king remarked that he had never seen a beer garden at a country fair and that the whole thing is totally outofwhackv- he felt that council was put in a nowin situation no matter what decision you make- someone wjll sayifswrong was hs opinion mrs wedley council jand have unanimously passed a resolution asking council tp reconsider he pointed out that the people running the event were all wellrespected not even brought to vote since it was obvious only bill kamps was in favour council has made a bad decision com merited mr lewis when talking to the tribune later mrrlewis said that he anticipated no difficulty ingetting a liquor license for holding the event inxatcham hall but id feel better if i had that piece of paper in my hand right now hejjoked- j u new metrifcated route isjsmm prize8regkttati6hapmias23i30 jl tt r g 5 v iznzjpt