Oshawa Times (1958-), 8 Feb 1967, p. 8

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@ THE OSHAWA TIMES, Wednesday, Februery 8, 1967 'SPO Ron Dussiaume's goal, from a scramble in front of the St. Catharines' net, wit: only 10 seconds left to play, gave Oshawa Generals a 3-3 tie an? split in the points, for last night's Junior 'A' action here. The homesters had taken a 2-0 lead early in the game but the first period ended 2-1 and after that, the visiting Black Hawks had an edge. However, the Generals didn't roll over and play dead--they kept bat- tling back and were finally re- warded with the tie. Brian Morenz, who turned in one of his better games, was '"'dig- - ng" all night and it was another bit of his stick-with- fitness that gave him posses- sion, long enough to make the pass to Dussiaume, which produced the all-important tally. The tie keeps Oshawa in the running for eighth place and final playoff berth, with this weekend looming as "reeley big" for the Generals. They play Kitchener Rangers here Saturday night and visit Marlies on Sunday afternoon, OSHAWA SKI CLUB mem- bers performed with outstand- ing distinction over the week- end, those competing here at home and this in the Southern Ontario Junior races at Craig- leith (Collingwood). Bob Ste- Phenson finished first in a field of 21 racers but Bob Langmaid had trouble with one of the gates and didn't finish. In the 15-year-old boys group, with 17 competitors, Bill Hol- land finished first and Barry Sampson was third. They had $2 competitors in the under- 15 group and Oshawa lads Pat Woodcock, Doug Wood- cock, and Ricky Bagg finished 8th, 1ith and 18th respectively. Grant Willson was disquali- fied while Chris Langmaid and John Reed were unable to compete, due to injuries. In the downhill run, Bob Lang- maid was 7th and Bob Ste- phenson 11th. Bill Holland was third and young Sampson 13th in their group while Doug Woodcock was a bang-up se- cond, followed by Pat Wood- cock 13th, Grant Willson 16th and Rick Bagg, 17th. In a field of 82 competitors, that's a fine showing, for the Osh- awa youngsters. OSHAWA CLUB will be well represented at the All-Ontario races, in Rouyn, Quebec, this mext week, as a result of their RTS MENU By Geo. H. Campbell Associate Sports Editor performances. Those picked to go are Bob Stephenson, Bob Langmaid, Bill Holland and Doug Woodcock. BIl Hol- land received his "B" rating, during the prize presenta- tions. There were no Oshawa girls competing in the Junior ranks this time, first time they've missed for several years. "Bucky" Richards and John Armstrong go to Que- bec this weekend, to repre- sent Ontario as members of the provincial jumping team, in the big week-long champion- ships session. CURLING SHOTS:-- JUNE SHAW skipped her Kenora rink to the Ontario Silver 'D' ladies single-rink _-- curling championship, at Copper Cliff yesterday, finishing the round-robin playoff grind with four wins and only one defeat --suffered at the hands of the Sarnia rink, In the key game, yesterday, Mrs. Shaw defeat- ed Edna Johnston of Sudbury 10-7, to earn the right to re- present Ontario in the Cana- dian Diamond 'D' champion- ships, at Montreal, Feb. 27 - March . . . OSHAWA GOLF CLUB rinks, skipped by Effie Hezzelwood and Merlee Law- rence, won their district hon- rence, won their first two games, in Ontario Women's Tankard double-rink competi- tion, being held at Peterbor- ough sterday .. . KIT- CHENER'S Mrs. C. G. Tesk- ey and Mrs. C. B. Schmidt won their district playoffs yesterday, on their own Gran- ite Club ice. . . SILVER TANKARD playdowns, for the men's Ontario double-rink championship, get underway tomorrow at Orillia, It's a double-knockout competition this year, instead of the for- mer round-robin '"'eights". . . JOE GUROWKA of Dixie, | Farr found himself out of position, with LeBlanc all set to gobble up the puck, in the first period of their WHO COULD MISS at this range? St. Catharines' Jean P. LeBlanc, that's who! Oshawa goalie, Rocky OHA Junior "A" hockey game here last night. Le- Blane picked up the puck and turned to face a wide- COPPER CLIFF, Ont. (CP)--|the fourth round when Mrs. June Shaw and her rink from|Shaw won her fourth consecu- Kenora will represent Ontario|tive game by defeating Edna at the Canadian women's curl-| Johnston of Sudbury 10-7 to earn ing championships for the sec-|the berth in the national finals ond consecutive year, but a/Feb. 27 to March 3 at Montreal. back injury could ruin the four-| In the fifth round, Mrs. Shaw some's bid for the national title. |and her rink of third Shirley Mrs. Shaw, playing with a/Wiebe, second Dorothy Holm- protective brace to support her |gren and lead Joan LeCain lost back, won the provincial title/its only game of the playoffs Tuesday with a 4-1 record in the|--11-9 to Elaine Fleet of Sarnia. fe wame, round - robin Pon-|suPFERED BACK PAINS The title was decided after| After the game, Mrs. Shaw) City Hall Ties Chow's who went to The Brier for Ontario last year, where he lost on a final stone, is fav- ored to repeat this year but Gurowka himself admits he expects stern opposition from the Toronto rink skipped by Alfie Phillips Junior. George Parkes of St. Thmoas is ano- ther highly-rated contestant who qualified for the Orillia session, along with 'draw master" Bill Lewis of Tren- ton .. FORMER OSHA- WAN, Mike Meronek, will skip the Ottawa district winners at Orillia and Rod Zjoberg of Peterborough will also be on hand. They make the draw to- night. Cork Scores Three Goals | Hoop Pair As Lions Register Win Doug Cork fired three goals fas league leading Lions Club topped winless Rotary Club 3-1 in the Oshawa Major Midget League Tuesday. Kinsmen Club tied Kiwanis Club 2-2 in another game. Dan Beattie scored the Rotary goal against Lions. Rich Gamble and Garry Bone tallied goals for Kinsmen with Gerald Tanguay and Joe Rock- brune replying for Kiwanis. In Major Bantam play, Police Association nipped Canadian Corps 43 and Hambly's Bev- erages stopped B'nai B'rith 3-1. Terry McKee, Frank Schram, Frank Bathe and Dave McKee ecored for Police Association while Nick Sirko picked up two goals for Canadian Corps and Greg Reid one. Garry Thornton, Bill Coody and Bob Irwin were marksmen for Hambly's and Bob Bell scored for B'nai B'rith. In Juvenile League action, Auto Workers Credit Union trounced Hayden Macdonald 8-4 and Oshawa Dairy beat Tony's Refreshments 6-3. Bill Morrison scored three times for Credit Union while single markers went to Walter Grabko, Brian Lock, Neil Stud- ley, Dave Lovell and Paul Brockman. Richard Enger, Chris Stead, John Krantz and_ Elliott Beharell scored for Hayden Macdonald. Tom Dart counted twice for Oshawa Dairy, with other goals going to Daryl Hudgin, Edward Goodchild, Doug Suppella and Steve Blake. Jim MclIntyre scored twice for Tony's and Pete Lean once. SPORTSCOPE TODAY BASKETBALL COSSA Oshawa 'A' League.. --McLaughlin at O'Neill, Ban- tams, at 4.00 p.m. COSSA Lakeshore "A" Leaue--Bowmanvyille at Dun- barton; Whitby Anderson at Courtice and Pickering at Ajax all games at 4.00 p.m. GM Employees League -- Cost Accounting vs Alumni, at 6.30 p.m.; Chassis Plant vs Students, at 7.30 p.m.; Data Processing vs Chassis Plant, at 8.30 p.m. and Engineering vs Accounts Payable, at 9.30 p.m.; all four games at O'Neill Collegiate. HOCKEY OHA Intermediate League --Sunderland at Little Brit- ain, 8.15 p.m. CYO League--at Civic Audi- tovium, 6.00 p.m. to 8.00 p.m. Oshawa Minor Assoc. Mid- get League -- Uniroyal Cen- tres vs Firefighters, at 6.00 p.m.; Rose Bowl Restaurant vs Local 222, at 6.55 p.m.; Ideal Dairy. vs Navy Vets at 8.00 p.m. and Canadian Le- Oshawa YW Rink Takes Bonspiel A rink representing the Osh- awa Young Women's Christian Association curling group won second prize at the annual "Champaign Bonspiel" at the Scarboro Curling Club recently. Mre. Kenneth Powell skipped the rink and other members were Bertha Clark, lead. Mrs Wilfred Morrison, second, and| National and American Leagues' Mm. A. W. Atkinson, third, gion vs Letter Carriers, at 8.55 p.m.; all four games at Oshawa Children's Arena. THURSDAY ICE SKATING Oshawa Figure Skating Club -- at Civic Auditorium, 6.00 p.m, to 10.00 p.m, | HOCKEY Ontario' Minor Assoc. Play- offs -- Belleville Pee Wees vs Oshawa Pee Wees, Ist game of 2-out-of-3 series, at Osh- awa Children's Arena, at 7.00 p.m. Baseball Leais Shun New Loop TORONTO (CP) -- Bob Hunter, president of Toronto Maple Leafs baseball club, said Tuesday he has turned down an offer to enter the Global League --described by its United States Promoter as a rival to the two existing major baseball leagues. Hunter, who is having trouble getting funds to keep the Leafs in the National League, jsaid he received a three-page jletter from Walter J. Dilbeck, Jr. of Evansville, Ind., asking him to put up a $50,000 fran- chise deposit to enter the league. Dilbeck wrote that the league, Still in the embryo stage, would include teams from the U.S., Mexico, Tokyo, Manila and Ha- |vana He expects the calibre of play to be equal to that of the within three years. On Wayne Bradley's Goal Wayne Bradley's goal with a minute remaining in the game gave City Hall Orphans a 4-4 overcame a 4-2 deficit. Four minutes earlier, Wayne Bradley had assisted on Cecil Lundy's tie with Chow's Restaurant in|second goal of the game. John Oshawa Civil Service Hockey|MacDuff scored the other goal) League action at Bowmanville|for Orphans, | Tuesday. Wayne Bradley had two as- In another game, a pair of|sists while MacDuff, Alan Mac- second period goals by Frank /kie, Archie Courtice and John Bradley provided Foote's Tow-|Milne each had one. June Shaw's Kenora Rink Wins Ontario Silver 'D' accepted the Dominion Silver D trophy and left. for Kenora, complaining of back pains. In the only other fifth-round game, Neva Paul of Toronto de- open net -- but he missed. The two teams went on to play to a 3-3 tie. --Oshawa Times Photo London Rally . Tops Hamilton By THE CANADIAN PRESS London Nationals finally broke a six-game winless streak in the Ontario Hockey Associa- tion Junior A series--but they did it the hard way. The Nationals blew one-goal leads three times before finally rallying to defeat Hamilton Red feated Jean Beardsley of Ot- tawa 11-5. Toronto and Ottawa, each with 3-2 records, will meet! today to decide the runner-up spot. Sudbury forfeited to Helen Lord of Trenton to decide a tie for last place. Wings 6-4. In the only other series game, St. Catharines Black Hawks and Oshawa Generals played to a 3-3 tie. Brian Murphy and Jim Stan- field led the London attack with TRADED LEAD Mrs, Shaw, who finished in aj tie for fourth place in the 1966 national competition, and Mrs. Johnston, waged a see-saw bat- tle in the climactic fourth round. Kenora scored two on the first end, but Sudbury came. back| with a single on the second and two in the third for a 3-2 lead. Mrs. Shaw put the game away/Kitchener by scoring six points over the|Toronto |Hamilton In the other fourth - round|Niag. Falls matches, Trenton dropped Tor-|St. Cathar. onto 11-4 and Sarnia edged Ot-| London tawa 10-9 in an extra-end battle. | Peterbor, Kenora got off to a good start| Montreal in its fifth-round match against} Oshawa next three ends. Sarnia, running up a 6-0 lead} ing with a 4-2 win over Whitby| Ted Lutton, Bill Kellington, Dupont, John Hogg and Paul Wright Wayne Bradley's goal was|scored for Chow's, who scored| the second in the final five|four times in the second period| minutes by City Hall, which|for a 4-2 lead. Neither team| scored in the first. is Gene McAvoy collected a Central Wins «: of assists for Chow's and single helpers went to Wright and Terry Perkin. In the other game, Foote's grabbed a 2-1 lead in the first period and made it 4-2 in the second. Jack Vachon and Reid McCon- nell also tallied for Foote's Jim Curry had three assists, Rich Nosal two, Frank Bradley and McConnell one each. Perry Hodges and Phil Green scored for Dupont, with Cyril McLellan earning two assists, Wilf Rostek and Marcel Crete Central Collegiate paid a visit to Eastdale Collegiate Tuesday | and handed them two losses in as many games, winning the junior game 52-39 and the ban- tam game 45-29, in COSSA bas- ketball play. Central opened an early lead in the junior contest and stead- ily widened the gap as the game two goals each. Stan Allen and Gary Unger got the others. Danny Lawson scored three for Hamilton and Renald Le- Clere got one. HOCKEY SCORES By THE CANADIAN PRESS Ontario Junior A WLT F APt 4 166 137 46 4 165-142 46 4 141 119 42 8 179 163 40 6 137 118 38 6 150 168 36 8 145 179 30 7 133 146 29 22. 7 105 149 27 Tuesday's Results after three ends, but Mrs. Fleet|Hamilton 4 London 6 steadied her rink to score two!st, Catharines 3 Oshawa $ four-enders in the next two} Thursday's Games ends. London at Hamilton Mrs. Shaw came back with two in the eighth after dropping two singles, but Sarnia scored one in the 10th to win 11-9. Canadiens Win; | Acadiens Tie, 3-3 | Canadiens handed Alouettes | a 4-2 setback while Tigres tied) Acadiens 3-3 in French Can- adian Hockey League play this| week, B. Clouthier scored twice for Canadiens while M. Rancourt and C, Bois added one each. Leger and G. St. Aubin tallied} for Alouettes. | J. Niles, J. Vachon and G. progressed. The visitors led 20-11 at the end of the first quarter and 30-17 at the end of the half. one each. Dupont picked up minor penalties. all five Tanguay scored for Tigres with) \C. Richard counting twice for| Acadiens and 1. Bedard once. Montreal at Peterborough Ontario Senior Tuesday's Results Orillia 3 Collingwood § North York 1 Kingston 8 Barrie 3 Belleville 5 Central League Tulsa 1 Houston 4 Western League Vancouver 3 San Diego 2 Eastern League Jacksonville 3 Charlotte 9 International League Des Moines 3 Dayton 7 Port Huron 4 Columbus 8 Central Junior Cornwall 3 Hull 10 Manitoba Junior Flin Flon 6 Rangers 0 Monarchs 6 Warriors 6 Brandon 5 Selkirk 0 Alberta Junior Movers 6 Athletics 4 Although Eastdale outscored Central 11-10 in the third quar-| ter and drew to within five) points in the final minutes of | the game, Central played "con- trol ball' and pulled away. High scorer for Central was | Calder with 13 points while) Hercia scored 11, Ratkovic/ nine, Cuthbert eight, Cutler five -- "Look Deer! and Melinchuck, Gorny and Nestic two each. . Why not shop Cunningham of Eastdale was et Bond Clothes early high scorer for both teams as, deday for: that he put in 18 points while Mc- Ilroy scored nine, Orton five,| and Dragon, Lynd and Paradise two each. | Eastdale built up a 14-6 lead by the end of the first quarter and maintained it as they led 18-10 at the half before oe Suit you need, Besides. Think of the sevings, struck. | Central scored 17 points in the third quarter and 18 in the final to win going away behind |the scoring of 'Kryszak who put in 22 points, almost half the) jteam score, Other scorers for, Central were Embury with 12 points, Gorycki five, Webster four and 'Wallace two. | FALL | un | aes Be OSHAWA f 5 ee & WINTER STOCK CLEARANCE BOND CLOTHES...First Time Ever! Be." ' TRANSMISSION 32. SERVICE | PRICES GREATLY REDUCED ON BRAND NAMES ] 1175 NELSON ST., OSHAWA TELEPHONE 576-2610 SWEATERS % Price ALL OUTERWEAR % Price 1s YOUR -- TRANSMISSION ILL? 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Brian Morenz got the puck on the draw, and pushed it to Nick Beverley. Beverley's shot was stopped by goalkeeper Peter McDuffe, but Morenz knocked the puck across the crease and Dussiaume flipped it into the open side. It was a fitting climax to a game in which Generals fought hard to protect a 2-0 lead, only to see it evaporate and become a 3-2 deficit. Beverley, with a bullet-like drive from the right point, and Fred O'Donnell, during a power play, gave Generals a 2-0 lead in the first four minutes. Then, in a manner remini- scent of the first meeting be- tween the clubs, Generals watched the Black Hawks slow- ly take command. Jan Popeil notched the only goal of the second period and Vie Teal, a standout through- out for Hawks, tied the score early in the third. Pete Mara caught everyone on the Generals napping to sneak in and put Hawks ahead at 12.02, and it was on this play Dussiaume's skate broke. Both teams missed scoring opportunities, with the Hawks' Jean P. LeBlanc blowing the greatest chance late in the first period. With Farr way out of the Generals' net, and only the wide open space in front of him, LeBlanc wound up and let fly with a shot that missed the mark by 10 feet. Hawks were plagued by bad shooting in the first period, but Generals found it difficult to sympathize as they had their troubles later. Late in the game, Danny Sandford drove the puck past an open corner, and on the next line change, Paul Cadieux, playing left wing, banged the RON DUSSIAUME » + tying goal |puck backwards as he tried to get a shot at the net with Mc- Duffe out of position. It was perhaps Generals' best outing in recent weeks, al- |though the fans who came late and left early missed all their scoring. But, as coach Ted O'Connor \said afterwards, "They work- jed for this one. They didn't GM All -Stars Beat Teachers General Motors Employees Basketball League All - Stars handed Oshaw& School Teachers a 75-69 setback in an exhibition basketball game Tuesday. A 15-point performance by Dave Thompson topped the GM attack while Charles Sorrie and Alex Radovich each scored 13 points. Marcel Boivin dropped in 10 points for 'Stars, with Paul Wills adding nine, Paul Smith and Jim Burke six each and John Campbell three. Arv Stonkus of Teachers was top point - man in the game, dropping in 20. John Lederer added 13 while Joe Kolodzie had 11, Jack Wiley seven, John Hinchley and Rob Collins five each, Mal Simms four, Stan Marchut and Bob Dockstader two each. Teachers romped to a 20-9 |first quarter lead and led 39-33 at the half. A 25-point third quarter, in which Thompson counted nine points, shoved All- Stars into the lead. Each team scored 17 points in the fourth quarter. | With Late Marker quit. We made two mistakes, on back-checking assignments, and they cost us two goals. But we came back. It was a big point." The tie left Generals in ninth place, two points behind Mont- teal and three back of Peter- borough Petes. "If we can beat Peter- borough in our last meeting with them," O'Connor _ said, "the tie will be extremely im- portant." % Defenceman Chris Roberts turned in a most effective per- formance for Generals, dishing out several hard checks. He also broke up many rushes and was firing the puck from the left point without wasting too much time, Morenz checked _ hard throughout and, of course, came through on the important final face-off. SHORT SHOTS: Centre Bob Walton didn't dress again. He's confined with a slight case of |pneumonia, . . . Referee Hugh |McLean handed out 11 minor |penalties, six to Generals... . {Kitchener is here Saturday and |Generals travel to Toronto Sun- jday afternoon. | St. Catharines: Goal, MeDufte, | Holmes; defence, Reid, Terry, Gibbons, Salovaara, Korab; forwards, Burgess, |Popell, S$. Roberts, Sicinski, Anderson, |Young, Fisher, Mara, Latinovich, Teal, a ee L'Abbe. shawa: Goal, Farr, Gavel: defence. Roberts, Beverley, Wilkins, €dmunds) |forwards, White, O'Donnell, Dussiaume, | Scott, Babcock, Cadieux, Morenz, Rob- jertson, Dionne, Black, Sandford, FIRST PERIOD 1. Oshawa, Beverley ............... LB 2. Oshawa, O'Donnell (White, Dussiaume) 2.19 Penalties -- Salovaara, + Morenz 3.44; Beverley 6.10; Reid 8.38; Wilkins 9.19; Edmunds 13.30; Anderson 13.477 Salovaara 17.28. SECOND PERIOD 9. 8t. Catharines, Popell (Fisher, LeBlanc) stbaneppebes va Penalties -- Edmunds 2.18; Black 8.37, THIRD PERIOD 4. Bt. Catharines, Teal (L'Abba, i » Young) seeseeseoess OY 8. a1" Catharines, Mare sie atinovich, Anderson) secon 2. 4, Oshawa, Dussiaume be Loe (Morenz, Beverley) .....0+005 wa Penalty -- Fisher 16.90, ATTENTION ICE-FISHERMEN SEASON NOW OPEN @ Lerge Live Minnows (Creek Shinners) @ Chopped Minnews @ Selted Minnows (For Lak . al Misnews sree gn ¢ Dos, @ Dew Worms OSHAWA LIVE BAIT CO, 859 NELSON 8ST. J corner Wolfe St. 28-3222 of 723-719 Open 'til 6 P.M. | and more essential, Continuing Joint consultation on a regular basis to discuss matters of mutual concern, WHAT IS A the need to Improve commun Today new techniques and new machines are being introduced with startling raptdity as Canadian industry strives to remain competitive at home and abroad. . 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Ron Hooper goals on Bel Steve Fralic orth and Ed | each, Dave E ton each coll Ron Thachuk Knight one e: John Devitt scored for Im} phy and Don had an assist. Wilson now 16 goals and Taylor has 10 sists for 26 p third with 22 fourth with 19. OSHAW Pic RE-P NU-WA SER 251 King S 8x10 -- 5x7-- 20% Discou of 5 or M

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