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ey She Oshavwn Sines Published by Canadian Newspapers Limited 86 King St. E., Oshawa, Ontario T. L. Wilson, Publisher - FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 6,'1964---PAGE 4 Ontario Regiment Is Entitled To Survive There will be general satisfaction throughout Oshawa' and Ontario county at the news that the Ontario Regiment (Tank) has escaped the economy axe being wielded by Minister of Defence Paul Hellyer on Canada's militia regiments. The people of this city and couftty have a justifiable pride in the more than 100 years' history of the Ontario Regiment.. They have suported it in peace and in war. Perhaps its survival is due to the fact that, as Lt.Col. J. W. Warnica, its command-. ing officer said: "The Ontario Regiment has more equipment, more facilities and more trained personnel than other major units in the Central Ontario area." It has even more than that, It has behind it great traditions and an esprit de corps that are second to none, Its service record is a glorious one. In the first world war, {t con- tributed a company to the 2nd Bat- talion, C.E.F., provided many men for the 21st Battalion, sent its own 116th Battalion into the fighting line as a unit in 10 major battles, and raised the 182nd Battalion to provide reinforcements. It fought valiantly from Vimy to Mons. In the second world war, as a tank regiment, the Ontario Regiment be- came part of Canada's armored brigade which served in Sicily, Italy, and in the final advances through Holland arid into Germany. With such a record behind it, and with the interest which Oshawa and Ontario County show in main- taining the regiment as an effective unit, The Ontario Regiment has richly deserved the tribute of being one of Canada's militia units to be preserved. Landslide For Johnson The presidential election in the United States has resulted just as was predicted,-in a landslide victory for the incumbent of the office, Lyndon B. Johnson. In a sweep which gave him the largest popular majority of any United States presi- dential candidate, and the highest percentage of votes of any president elected, President Johnson has a commanding mandate to continue in.the office which was trust upon him by the assassination of the late President Kennedy. Actually, there had never been much, if any, doubt as to the out- come of the election. President Johnson was labelled a winner of this contest from that tragic day a year ago when President Kennedy was ruthlessly shot down in Dallas Texas. The manner of his accession to the presidency set in motion an emotional wave which had its final outcome in yesterday's election victory. U.K. Labor's InAe speech from the throne at the opening of the British parlia- ment, the Labor government under the leadership of Harold Wilson has shown that it is not at all inhibited by its small majority of five. It has announced a bold program, even a daring one, which might be ex- pected from a party with 10 times that majority. It has placed the most controversial of its measures right into the forefront of its pro- gram, as if to challenge the two oposition parties to do their worst in trying to defeat the government. The Labor government's legisla- tive program follows exactly, its election program. Steel and iron will be re-nationalized. Rent con- trols will be restored. A new crown commission will be established to take control, on behalf of the state, of land which is scheduled for deve- lopment, in order to halt expensive speculation in land values. And the pledge of support for NATO and the United Nations imdicates that for the time being, Britain's foreign policy and alliances will be wn- changed. A proposal to introduce legislation to abolish capital punish- ment; with the members allowed .a She Oshawa Times T. L. WILSON, Publisher R. C. ROOKE, General Manage: C. J. MeCONECHY, Editor The Oshawa Times combining The Oshawa Times {established 187!) and the Whitby Gozette end Chronicle established 1863) is. published daily Sundoys and Statutory holidays excepted Members of Canadian Daily Newspaper Publish. ers Association. The Canadian Press, Audit Bureau of Circulation and the Ontario: Provincial Dailies Association. The Canadian Press is exclusively entitied to the use of republication of al! news despatched in the poper credited to it or te The Associated Press or Reuters, ond else the local mews published therein. 'All rights of special des. potches cre also reserved. 4 Offices: Thomson = Build! Avenue, Toronto, Ontario; Montreal, P.Q. 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The extent to which former Republican areas 4 went solidly for Johnson revealed the extent to which Goldwater lost the support of large sections of his own party. Canada and the western world will be well satisfied that President Johnson is to reni&in at the helm in the United States. He has handled his foreign relations very well, and has maintained close and friendly relations with all of its allies in the ideological war. The west can feel assured that, as president in his own right, these alliances and friendships will be safe. : Bold Plans free' vote on this subject, will 'satisfy a widespread public demand. It is quite possible that the Labor government will be able to put through at least most of its legis- lative program, in spite of its small majority. It may win some divi- sions by one or two of a majority, and carry on until some by-elec- tions,- which will in due course be inevitable, give some indication of the public attitude towards the Wilson government. But it is most unlikely that the two opposition parties will endeavor to force an- other election until they find them- selves on more solid ground than they occupy at present. Other Editors' Views YOWLL HAVE NO CANADA (Guelph Mercury) Out of the federal-provincial conference, with its proposals to water down .the central govern- ment's authority still more, has come one fragment of common- sense. On the eve of the constitutional which he appears nevertheless to have joined with the other provinces in forcing the strangely pliant federal] administra- tion into a new retreat, Saskatche- wan Premier Thatcher spoke to the tax committee. "Change the package (federal powers) too quickly and too much and you will not have a different Canada; you will have no.Canada", he warned. He added that his gov- ernment believes Ottawa should have-the power to achieve a stable level of. economic growth. Bible Thought "He was in all points tempted like @s we are, yet without sin. -- Hebrews 4:15 The 'Son of God became like us that we might become like Him. REV. L. W. HERBERT Ministerial Association President In His Study Dawn Of New, Exciting Era Foreseen For Young People By PAUL TISSINGTON Of The Times Staff Rev. L. W. Herbert says he believes we are at the dawn of a new and exciting era, where young people are searching for the real meaning of life. "Young people are stepping forward in an adventuresome way (Peace Conps and Cross- roads Africa as examples) to find a common ground of under- standing whereby ali people may live together in one come mon brotherhood under the fatherhood of God," said Mr. Herbert in an interview with The Oshawa Times "Although to some the church would seem to lag, it would be my prayer that really it has been the church's inspiration and leadership that has result- ed in the awakening we see to- day as witnessed by the ecu- menical movement of churches, greater concern with liaison be- tween jabor and religion and in the enthusiasm and outreach of our young people, encouraging and promoting understanding among nations," said Mr. Her- bert, NEW PRESIDENT The newly - elected president of the Oshawa Ministerial Asso- ciation, Mr. Herbert, has been minister of King Street United Church. He describes Oshawa and his 800-family congregation as 'very friendly" "There is unlimited. leader- ship at King Street United Church and I have gertainly enjoyed my pastorate here," he said And the city, itself is very progressive."' He came to Oshawa .from Lansdowne in the Kingston Presbytery where he was min- ister for six and'one half years. His first church was in Denbigh, 40 miles north of Kaladar where he was minister for two years, MORAL DECAY Asked to comment on what has been described. as 'moral decay", Mr, Herbert noted that the common opinion is that there has been a general break down of morality. "Generally speakng there is confusion among us in judging between the Absolute and the Victorian ideal of behavior. The virtues of integrity, honesty and industry are still ;the rule of thumb by which moraj decisions are made "In our faith we are a people of God -- ultimately then, re- sponsible in all our moral ac- tions and ethical devisions to Him.' Communication was cited by Mr. Herbert as a major prob- jem facing the church. He said some people say the church has a problem in making the Gospel relevant "I think it is rélevant,'"' said Mr. Herbert. "The language of the Scripture has been updated but it is not enough to state an outmoded concept in a fresh and crisp language. Concepts have to be transferred, not just words. "We must launch the Gospel of good news in the universe as we find ourselves in it today. THE TIMES PERSONALITY OF WEEK This will tax the scholatic abil- ity of the church," EARLY INTERESTS Louis Wesley Herbert . was born at Putnam, near London, Ontario, in 1920. His father was a minister in the London Con- ference. He attended high school in Clinton and was graduated in ' 1940 Mr. Herbert's early interests were chemical, mechanical and electrical engineering and for- estry. He decided to gain some practical experience in these fields before attending Univer- bity He worked as a laboratory technician, a drill press oper- ator and a logger in British Columbia before settling in To- ronto for six years, employed by an instrument and equip- ment standardization firm "I'm mechanically and elec- trically inclined," he said. "I've always liked this kind of work." He married in Toronto in 1947 and was planning to build a home in Willowdale but in 1949 he sold his lot and enrolled in an Arts Course at Victoria College in preparation for theology "Iwas deeply concerned with the problems and crisis in the world," said Mr. Herbert. "When I discovéred the mes- sage of the Gospel, to meet these problems, I decided to do something about it." He worked his way through University as a student minis- ter at Goodwood, graduated from ordained in 1953, MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION . Mr, Herbert' described the Ministerial Association as a "working organization". He said Suest speakers and special events will highlight. each monthly meeting "Every effort will be made to minimize the business period, freeinr time for ministers to broaden their horizons." One of the main fieldof activ- ity for the association, which embraces nine Protestant de- nominations, is religious educa TODAY IN HISTORY By THE CANADIAN PRESS Nov. 6, 1984... . The first federal Pamlia- ment assembled in Ottawa 97 years ago today--in 1867-- the year. of Confederation The British North America Act of that year, establish- ing the Dominion, provided that there "shalil be one par- liament for Canada, Consist- ng of the Queen, the Upper House, styled. the Senate, and the House of Com- mons." In this composition, . the Crown descends by here- dity, subject to the Act of Settlement of 1701 and other successions of the Crown acts, both Canadian and Imperial 1879 --- Thanksgiving Day was first observed in Can ada 1947 -- The terms upon which Newfoundland would become part of Canada were announced. First World War Fifty years ago today--in 1914--advance troops of the Indian Expeditionary Force landed in Mesopotamia; Austro - German treops re- treated in Galicia and East Prussia; a Turkish warship bombarded the Russian Black Sea port of Batum Second. World War Twenty-five years ago to- day--in 1939 -- the French reported that nine German planes had been shot down in an air battle; Premier Molotov of Russia at- tacked "capitalistic' Brit- ain, France and the U.S. when outlining a peace pol- icy}, a 'British' Admiralty Spokesman claimed that the German U-boat menace was "fairly mastered." -work,"' said Mr tion in schools -- in Grades 7, 8 and 11 'This is very demanding Herbert. "Min- isters taking part in the pro- gram should be congratulated for their efforts." The association appoints re- presentatives to such organiza- tions as the Children's Aid So- ciety, the Oshawa and District Labor Council and the Rehabil- itation Council, "to lend guid- ance to the organizations and indicate an interest in their activities," said Mr. Herbert Radio broadcasts, guest edi- torials in The Times and weekly Services at Hillsdale Manor and the Oshawa General Hospital are other aspects of the asso- ciation's work UNDERSTANDING Discussing church differences, Mr. Herbert said he had every confidence that "a basis of-un- standing and co-operation will be reached among denomina- tions of the church where we can join as one family around the table of our Lord "The traditions of worship and Christian experience as found in orthodox and evangel- ical churches must -be preserv- ed in a union." Mr. Herbert, his wife Joyce and their five children Sandra, 12, John, 10, Mark, 9, Anita, 6 and Sharon, 2 live at 462 Simcoe Street north in the city Electronics is his major hobby although he finds he has not enough time to indulge in it as he once did. He enjoys light classical music which provides pleasant background music in his small but warm and friend- ly study at the church "Skiing is my most enthusias- tic hobby," he said. "My whole family took it up last winter at the Oshawa Ski €lub." For the past 10. years Mr Herbert has served as business chairman of the Bay of Quinte Conference of the United Church and for thé past year he has been chairman of the inter-city council of the Oshawa presby- tery of the United Church However, he plans to resign both posts as he feels his re- sponsibilities at the local level require more time. Mr. Herbert is also a member of the board of publications of the United Church of Canada, representing the Bay of Quinte Conference, MAC'S MUSINGS Nearly every day there come To our desk communications Almost impossible to read Because the writing is so Illegible that it would Take a magician to decipher What is intended in the Words that sprawl across The sheets of paper and Leave us wondering Just what they are There was a time when Penmanship was an art to Be coveted; when people took Pride in their handwriting And produced. copper-plate Specimens of writing that Today even after the lapse Of more than a century They can be clearly read Can it be that with the Growing number of subjects Found in the curricula of Modern schools the impor. tance Of good handwriting which Can be easily read has heen Overlooked so that pupils Do not clearly understand The importance of legibility In everything they write Perhaps this is just another Instance of the speed of Modern days taking the Place of excellence, of the Joy of doing things wel! Even if the task may only Be that of writing a letter. OTTAWA REPORT Econémy Broom Sweeps Defence By PATRICK NICHOLSON OTTAWA--The reorganization and integration of our defence forces is being accompanied by @ welcome sweeping with an economy broom by Defence Minister Paul' Hellyer, Not only is he trimming 10,- 000 employees from the swol- len staff of national defence headquarters, but he is ponder- ing carefully and deeply before committing Canada to a large bill for new military hardware. In making this important pur- chasing decision, he has the House of Commons defence commitiee watching eagerly over his shoulder. This committee is unusually strong and unprecedentedly ac- tive this session. It has been fortified by the addition of Parliament' s out- standing defence expert, for- mer Defence Minister Douglas Harkness, after this rebel from Diefenbaker cabinet had un- reasonably been exiled from this obvious field of usefulness. Capt. David Groos, Liberal MP for Victoria, B.C., is also a powerful member, having re tired from the navy three years ago after 26 years service, One of the more conscien- tious and deep-thinking mem- bers of this important comm- ittee is Heber Smith, Conserva- tive MP for Simcoe North, who left the army with the rank of captain after five years war service. COSTLY NEW PLANES Heber Smith tells me that he has been especially interested in the recent goings-on here associated with the purchase of a new aircraft Ottawa has been swanming with the largest and most. ac- tive lobby ever seen here, tempted by the prospect of a plum order which at one time looked like costing the taxpay- ers more than $600,000,000, He- BY-GONE DAYS 20 YEARS AGO Nov. 6, 1944 East Whitby Township named Reeve N. Down with Council- lors T, D. Thomas and W. E Noble as a delegation to inteér- view officials of the Ontario Departments of Public Health and Education regarding the re- fusal of the Oshawa Public Utilities Commission to extend city water mains to West- mount, North Oshawa and Har- mony Thomas Hopkins was named president of the Oshawa Bov Scout Association, to succeed W. L. Pierson. At a meeting of the Oshawa Kinsmen Club a cheque for $8,000 to buy 80,000 quarts of "Milk for Britain" was present- ed to H. A. Rogers, founder of the Association of Kinsmen Clubs Doug Chesebrough, chairman of the committee, made the presentation. 35 YEARS AGO Nov. 6, 1929 Oshawa Board of Health urged the city council to take action for the construction of a mod- ern sewage disposal plant Magistrate A. F. Hind was granted a six months' leave of absence due to ill-health. He had been city magistrate for 10 years Reductions of 8.9 per cent in domestic rates, 22 per cent in commercial rates and 11 per cent in power'rates were an- nounced by the Oshawa Public Utilities Commission. ber Smith had noted this, and is still ready to pounce on the government if the taxpayérs get this in his opinion and rightly so, needless soaking. The development and produc- tion of a new warplane takes several years from first idea to squadron service. So our de- fence minister must always peer well ahead in his crystal ball to foresee the world situa- tion and Canada's possible role and requirements in it Our major 'defence commit- ments in the coming years will be to continue to maintain our brigade group with the NATO forces in Europe, and presum- ably to hold a mobile all-pur- pose expeditionary force trained, equipped and ready 'to move anywhere in the world to assist in United Nations peace- keeping operations, as our con- tribution to the "Nordic Force" now in the planning stage ROCKETS OR BOMBERS? We also have an important home defence obligation in our participation in the North Am- erican Air Defence system, or NORAD, But, since Russia is now talking about bomber- burning bashes, obviously we will have a reducing require- ment for costly high-level in terceptor planes as defence against raids by manned bom- bers It is more economical and ef- ficient for a potential attacker --Russia and the U.S. alike-- to build and maintain, at con- stant readiness, a number of in- tercontinental missiles, rather than squadrons of man-flown bombers A Further, a rocket is at pre- sent more difficult to intercept, and its greater speed stashes the warning time at the receiv- ing end. These factors all add up to our requirement for a general purpose aircraft, which can op- , erate in close support of ground forces anywhere, especially without elaborate hard-top run- ways for take - off. Reason, therefore, argues against the costly sophisticated high - level interceptor plane, and in favor of a 1970 versio nof the Second World War army co-operation workhorses, the Mustang and the Typhoon. Ottawa's *'skirmish of the sky fighters" waged by the air: in- dustries lobbies will be des- cribed in a 'later column, POINTED PARAGRAPHS When all is said and done, there is usually more said than done. Off all the things that human beings wear, their expressions are the most important. The jatest definition of a bachelor is that he is a rolling stone who has gathered no boss. No one..expects that money today will go as far as it did 20 years ago, unless it might be the dime that rolls under the bed. d In two years time, it is re- ported, the world's population has increased by nearly 865 million, It seems to be time to call a halt -- but how? You've got to admire the courage of the pioneers, setting out on their long trip westward without a single credit card -- Calgary Herald. READERS | WRITE... OSHAWA'S WELCOME SIGN The Editor, The Oshawa Times. Sir, Approaching the city by car from the west on No, 401 High- way, if one takes the Park road 'south route, oné cannot help be- ing appalied by the- insignifi- cant, miserable-looking - sign that says "Welcome to Osh- awa, at E Every time I. see it 1 am reminded of an individual who, when he shakes hands, makes no attempt to put anything into it, but just lets his cold, clammy hand lie in mine like a piece of wet cod-fish, Welcome indeed! Let us get rid of the poor thing, and either do without, or erect a decent sign that would be in keeping with the fact that we are indeed "proud of our city." The existing sign gives 'the lie to the message it is intended to convey. Yours very truly, INTERESTED, Oshawa, Ontario. KEPT HALLOWE'EN SANE The-#4ditor, The Oshawa Times Sir In your paper of Nov, 2, you wrote, and I quote: "Whitby police reported a quiet Satur- day night except for the usual window soaping" (Page three). I think that credit should be given to the Ontario County General Radio Service Associa- tion boys who patrolled the streets of Whitby all evening. After all, ict us give credit where it is certainly due. These boys did this absolutely without charge to anyone, and they certainly curtailed some of the activities that would have happened and did happen else- where, They were the first te Claremont to help-the Ontario Provincial Police when a large crowd of girls and boys threat- ened to. break out in a fight, even although they had their cars pelted with apples, eggs and even rocks for their trouble. I believe these GRS operators should receive a little credit for a job well done. Thank you. MRS. HOWARD LANE 208 Hallett avenue, Whitby, Ont, WANTS OLD WATCHES The Editor, The Oshawa Times. Sir: I am a.TB patient in sanitarium and have been here for some time." have decided to take up watch repairing, but find it quite hard to find any old timepieces with which to practice, J would therefore be grateful if you could this in your columns, your readers if they have any old timepieces that are no more use to' them, Perhaps they would send them along to me for prac- tical purposes, This would very much appreciated. Thank- ing you kindly, Yours truly, FRED HUTCHINSON TB Hospital, St. John, New Brunswick. SPAAK. ARRIVES OTTAWA (CP) ~ Foreign Minister Paul Henri Spaak of Belgium arrived here Wednes- day from New York for talk¢ with External Affairs Minister Martin on the United Nations and NATO. PAPER MISSED? Call 723-3783 to 7 p.m. Circulation Dept. OSHAWA TIMES Leads the parade in true value RESERVE Vie pithy AGED AND MELLOWED IN WOOD