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CRUCIAL MEETINGS Flag Committee Striving | To Reach Near-Unanimity | The committee has been in- more than a majority composed structed by the Commons to re-jof Liberals, N: 2 THE OSHAWA TIMES, Wednesdey, October 21, 1964 GOOD EVENING -- By JACK GEARIN -- FISHER SERVED OSHAWA C OF C WELL Se Douglas Fisher wilt resign soon as general manager of the Oshawa Chamber of Commerce to accept a new 'WEATHER FORECAST Cloudy, Colder May Be Snow TORONTO (CP) -- Forecasts| Lake Erie: Southerly winds issued by the weather office at|22 to 27 knots this morning be- By KEN KELLY position in Western Ontario? The Chamber owes him a debt of gratitude. of others outside the C of C fold. Fisher believed implicitly that the prime duty of the Chamber was to promote the community as a whole, not in special segments for a special privileged groups. The fact that the Oshawa Chamber -- like most Cham- bers in North America--was sometimes distrusted in out- side circles never deterred him in his unflinching zeal to bring it closer to all the people, come hell or high water, and it was to his credit that he was some- So do a lot 5:30 a.m.: coming variable 15 to 20 this ! -- The Com- , New OTTAWA (CP) ie Sosa pone. : afternoon and northwesterly 20 Synopsis: A storm centre over to 30 tonight; rain today. upper Michigan is moving southward and should reach the |lower lakes this afternoon or |evening. Rain over southern On- agit today is likely to change jto snow for a brief period this evening or tonight as the storm); © }centre moves by. Mainly cloudy Kitchener . | |Mount Forest Forecast Temperatures Low tonigh , high Thursday: jand colder weather is forecast \for southern Ontario Thursday) ,,. jand partly cloudy to sunny | Wingham aere weather in Northern Ontario. St Tcutasiis Lake St. Clair, Lake Erie|ngronto < southern Lake Huron regions,| 3 Windsor, London: Intermittent| Peterborough . rain today mostly ending hie -- afternoon. Little change in tem-| Kingston « peratures, Mainly cloudy and| Killaloe . colder tonight and Thursday.| Muskoka ..-. Winds southerly 10 to 20 becom: North Bay.... ing nofthwesterly 15 to 20 to-|Sudbury. ... night and Thursday. cose 25 30 Eariton mons flag committee plans to sediude itself among the bright autumn foliage of the Gatineau Hills north of the capital in a final effort to reach a decision on a flag design this week, a source not connected with the committee said y, ' The @pot picked for the cru- cial meeting of the.15 members, who have been sworn to secrecy about committee proceedings, is the summer residence of Com- mons Speaker Alan Macnaugh- ton near Kingsmere, where Mackenzie King once had a summer home. The committee is reported to} be still striving to reach near-| jgnanimity on a flag design.| |Failing selection of a design) |which would have the support lof 11 or 12 committee members, port by Oct, 29. The committee's emphasis on finding a design acceptable to all or nearly ali members arises from a determination to make the recommended design a par- liamentary' flag rather than a flag identifiable as the choice of one or other of the political) parties, Because the Jackson flag is in some ways similar to the design proposed last spring by the government, it was thought likely to get backing from no ? Automation's Toll Forecast However, informants said with a vertical blue side. THEORY PHONE CLASSICAL, POPULAR, TORONTO (CP)--From 4,000/B 74 Burk st. |B OSHAWA times successful. There was a prime exam- . ple of this preceding Osh- awa's Tracks Removal Cele- se bration in May, 1963, when the Chamber got together with the Oshawa and District Labor Council, the Oshawa Jaycees and other groups to minutely plan the details. Fisher didn't deserve all, or most of the credit for this spectacular event when more than 50,000 saw the last train make its historic run on King street. la majority is reported prepared|to 4,500 Canadians @ week will 725-4587 to recammend the three-leaf de-/be displaced by e@utomation sign sketched in 1959 by A. Y.|within the next two years, Ar- Jackson, 82-year-old member of|thur V. Pigott, vice-president of the famous Group of Seven Ca-|the Canadian Scholarship Fund, nadian artists. - gory | -- Veuse feo i : 7 es e tol oro' un 0-| | The Jackson design, explained), sive Conservatives that. if| | to the committee by the artist) Canada is to survive this threat, | s |himself, has three red maplejit must adopt Sweden's model | '4 \leaves on a white background|of co-operative planning be- | ; with a wide, wavy blue bar at'tween a centralized education Niagara, northern Lake Hu- jron, Lake Ontario regions, Tor-| Kapuskasing jonto, Hamilton; Intermittent |White River.. lrain today likely ending with @|\oosonee . brief period of snow this even- | Tjmmins ing or tonight. Mainly cloudy Ris and colder tonight and Thurs- . ' Union With . U.S. Possible Sault Ste. Marie.. NEED Mortgage Money? 1 Real Estate McGILL *+..ts Day or Night - 728-4285 day. Winds southerly 10 to 20 today, becoming northwesterly 15 to 2 tonight and Thursday. Georgian Bay, Haliburton, Killaloe, Algoma, North Bay, He did play an. influential and diplomatic role in bringing such widely divergent community groups together and the rea- Son was simple. He believed that the Chamber should serve as a "catalyst" fn such undertakings, and the result was impressive, unpre- éedented. Labor worked with management successfully on a vast civic 'project. When he took over his present job in 1960, the Chamber had a memibership of 170. Today it has more than 520, but this did not satisfy Fisher, who could be as blunt about the Chamber's failings as he could be about those of other organizations. For instance, he publicly stated once that "too many in the Chamber left the work to too few" and that no more than one-fifth of the total membership took an active part in the proceedings (a criticism, inciden- tally, which is not confined to the Chamber). The Chamber entered all kinds of new fields during his five-year tenure. * There was the prolonged and spirited campaign to bring Nordair Airlines to Oshawa, one of the highlights of which was a massive banquet at the Oshawa Airport sponsored by the Oshawa C of C. Nordair's Oshawa venture ended in failure, but through no fault of Mr. Fisher or the Chamber, who worked far beyond the call of duty to make it a success. The Canadian Automotive Museum on Simcoe street south was another of his pet projects. Prior to coming to Oshawa, Mr. Fisher had been a direc- for of both the Ontario Chamber of Commerce and the Cana- dian Chamber of Commerce. He is also a former national president of the Junior Chamber of Commerce. He moves to London, Ont., Nov. 15 as general manager of the Lake Erie Regional Development Association. The LERDA is sponsored by four counties, Middlesex, Elgin, Simcoe and Oxford (comprising 71 municipalities). Mr. Fisher's prime job will be to promote the economic growth of that wide area. For the sake of the record -- the Oshawa Chamber of Commerce was founded in 1928, SOME ALDERMEN HEDGE ON DECISIONS Some of our favorite people are elected representatives, especially City aldermen, but a few do irrtate no end by try- ing to be coy about their election plans. This little guessing game of '"'Who's Going To Run?" which breaks out about this time every election year has Sudbury: Occasiona! wet snow or show and rain mixed today. = ich Light snow tonight. Mainly Says Thaic er | cloudy and colder Thursday. d | Winds south or southeast 10 to, MONTREAL (GP) -- Premier 20 today light tonight northwest W Ross Thatcher of Saskatche- northerly " Thurs-'Wan said Tuesday his prov-| , ince would consider union with! the United States if Quebec ever left Confederation. But he added that Saskatche- or 15 to |day Timagami Cochrane regions |Intermittent snow today mostly | jending this evening. Cloudy with, : F la few clear periods and cold|W2® Can flourish if Quebec con-| ltonight and Thursday. Winds|tinues as part of the Confedera-_| southeast to easterly 10 to 20/#on and that his province is out today northerly 15 to 20 Thurs-|¥ improve its position through day. . the establishment of new indus- White River Region: Light : snow today mostly ending this| may make "major tax cuts' -- - erg Pen a few! 1965 cloudy periods and cold tonight' Mr Thatcher, in Montreal for and Thursday, Winds light be-\taix. with potential investors, coming northwest to northerly | toiq a press conference 15 to 20 this afternoon. "So long as Quebec is in Con Western James Bay region: federation, Canada is a fine Variable cloudiness today with! economic unit a few snowflurries or periods of "But if it ever left--and I light snow south portion. Clear hope to God it won't--we'd have with "a few cloudy periods and|to give consideration to joining OTTAWA--(CP)--The federal colé tonight and. Thursday.'the United States." budget process is being speeded Winds light. He said he has been visiting UP. The timetable now indicates " " ely early budget TORONTO (CP) Marine sometime in forecasts issued by the weather office at 8:30 a.m., valid until A HUGE subway exhaust fam near the Ontario Legis- lature in Toronto has provid- ed youngsters with a new game. The rush of air from the fan boosts the boy's jacket ry He also said his government in Indicated In various Canadian cities with the|@ relativ message that "the war on busi- speech, perhaps ness is over in Saskatchewan." March oy 7 ; aren The Liberal premier said he Finance Minister alter Gor- 1 eae Tucan) as been "reasonably success-|d0n has publicity set a firm Dec ha Lake Ontario: Increasing ; 31 deadline for rec ief : se . 1d 2 e for receiving briefs sotithedat. winds 16. 4G 48 thig fu! in tying down some indus ' j i tries'"' r his yince here|on tax proposals from various morning 20 to 30 this afternoon ay AE gin psialegge Oger organizations: and individuals decreasing again to variable 10)qo, edgier this vear Last year he asked for sub to 15 this evening becoming!" 4; 'Thatcher said any de- missions by that date but added northwesterly 20 to 30 Thurs-) °° ng "a that he wanted them, in any om i " ; parture by Quebec from Can- ' . day; rain today briefly mixed ada would 'cut the country|event, no later than the end of with snow. tonight down the middie and reduce|Januany. The result was that ; aa our domestic markets by one-mMany waited until January CRADLED ON WAVES third." : He produced his budget The Micmac Indians called) Quebec stands to gain eco- March 16 Prince Edward Island "Abeg-|nomically by sticking with Con-| This year the Dec. 31 cut-off weit" or "Cradled on the/|federation, he said, but there is|is firmer. "I really mean this," Waves" at the time explorer|danger that Quebecers might|he said last Firiday during a Jacques Cartier sighted it in|make a decision on "emotional" question-and-answer session be- on FUN ON THE FAN - Early Budget Speech top and bottom. Reports that most committee) {members favor the Jackson de-| sign were discussed by the com- mittee Tuesday. It is among 30) mittee has narrowed a field which at one time totalled nearly 4,000 into the air after he dropped it on the grating. The boy seems in danget of also losing his. shirt as the air pulls it up his back. ' | (CP Wirephoto) Ottawa Marketing ' Association. of Can- ada INTO 'BLACK BOOK' Officials here explain that the object is to put the so-called 'black book" of ail tax pro- posals together earlier than in the past, so afl recommenda- tions can be analyzed and as- sessed well before Mr. Gordon} makes his major decisions Normally by mid - February the black book contains from 200 to 300 pages of tax pro- posals TV and STEREO PHILIPS se J: WAYNE'S 78 Simcoe N. or 40 designs to which the com-|employers,"' : ' grounds, Telephone 723-1411 fore the Montreal forum of the bureau, a national union group) and an association of employ- ers. "The greatest need in Canada today is for a confederation of Mr. Pigott said.) 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Alderman Cecil Bint, and John Brady said they would run, but Alderman Walter Branch said it was "doubtful" that he would. Alderman Finley. Dafoe was also doubtful SERVING THE WORLD'S BEST DONUTS AND COFFEE HUNDREDS OF 'DIFFERENT VARIETIES Exciting Donut Creations .. . Frosted... Filled... Dipped +» Puffed . .. Twisted, <. and more including delicate donut pastries. SOME NOTES ON THE WARD SYSTEM The highly controversial Centennial project has stolen the public spotlight, as Oshawa's municipal election campaign heads down the home stretch. There 'is no desire herein to underestimate the impor- tance of the Centennial program, which digs so deep into the' heart of the community This does not mean that the electorate should forget that there will be a plebiscite in this year's election on the Ward System. : FRIDAY. jocr. 234 The Ward system is no certain cure-all for our present municipal ills, but it certainly deserves a two-year tryout, which would become effective in 1967, if the green light was given in December The evidence is overwhelming that large and populous areas of the City today are without adequate representation on City Council; aldermen today are too busy in a City the size of Oshawa to keep an alert eye on all sectors of the municipality. It is physically impossible. An ancient editorial in The Oshawa Times -- from the ; musty files of the 1931-32 era -- complained bitterly that serv- ice clubs, despite 'their worthwhile contributions to the com- munity, were discernibly lax when it came to helping develop an interest in municipal affairs. This same editorial, despite its vintage, could apply in Oshawa today Outside of the Oshawa Jaycees (which does not regard itself as a service club), there are practically no clubs that encourage public debate on municipal affairs, even in a non- partisan way. The Oshawa Rotary Club does hold a Day dinner early each year and the Oshawa Kiwanis also had a similar event, but these dinner meetings, however impressive in paying tribute to civic leaders, do little to stir up interest in pressing problems. This is the time for influential organi- zations to invite speakers, on both sides of the Ward system fence, to discuss the subject publicly. 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