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Mr. and Mrs. Angus King, Little Britain, were Sunday dinner guests at C. Avery's. Mr. and Mrs. Walter Pana- siuk, Lyn and Bobby, Calgary, Alberta, Mrs. Orr Jeffery, Port Perry, were visitors at Mr. and Mrs. A. Brunt's. ~ 2 Mr, and Mrs. E. Wright and family attended the baptismal service of Brenton Laverne, son of Mr. and Mrs. Ross Clemens of Hampton, were dinner guests with R. Clemen's, H-S Group To Run UNICEF | Drive © School Association met recent- ly at the Meadowcrest Junior 22 THE OSHAWA TIMES, Wednesday, October 31, 1962 Fisher Claims Dief Should Be Replaced New Democrats concentrated CGIT Group Nets $25 In Canvass By MRS. RUSSELL GRIFFIN wn, £. Cc. hey Oshawa, ENNISKILLEN -- The regu-|Mr._ J. | Twis' lem, Mrs. lar CGIT meeting was held at|R. M. Seymour, Mrs. Heine , Mrs,|were recent visitors at the ie bos ant nett. SP home of 0. 0. Ashton: niversary of Mr. Hetz, held at the and = Mrs. Uxbridge. BIG CHURCH the drive or courage to dismiss By JACK BEST OTTAWA (CP) -- The New Democratic Party's Douglas Fisher says that Prime Minis- ter Diefenbaker, whom he once looked upon as a potential "Prairie Lincoln," has let Can- ada down and should be re- placed. The big, blunt-spoken mem- ber for Port Arthur told | the Commons Tuesday he feels that the country "'very badly" needs a new prime minister. Mr. Fisher, speaking towards the tag of a wide-ranging eco- nomic debate, said that in the sn; apout the prime minister than -jany opposition MP. andl prospects when he came to , mother of Barbara and . Norman Holder (Helen), . William Cosburn Ross h| what he considered some of the ra: * with memorial service in rember 1, 2 p.m. Inter- Thursday, Nov eon ment Mount Lawn Ty, LOCK'S FLORIST Funeral arrangement and floral requirements for all occassions OSHAWA SHOPPING CENTRE 24 HOUR PHONE SERVICE 728-6555 GERROW FUNERAL CHAPEL Kindness beyond price yet within reach of all. 728-6226 390 KING STRET WEST "|much disappointed," said Mr. -|he has let the country down pH and . , . should be replaced." last Parliament he probably said more flattering things "1 thought that he showed power of being some kind of Prairie Lincoln, but I have been Fisher. "In my opinion, despite the best intentions in the world, LISTS 'SHORTCOMINGS' The Lakehead member listed prime minister's major short- comings: 1. Failure to establish a basis of trust with his own adminis- frators and his own administra- tion. He tended to be antagonis- some of them so he could feel surrounded by loyal officials. 2. A strong suspicion of intel- lectuals, an unwillingness to trust "the expce~!s in problems in depth." Mr. Fisher said he has been to most of the uni- versities in Canada and found that most of the "eggheads" there, who he believed had to contribution to make--"I know that President- Kennedy has found that they have" -- sup- ported either the Liberals or the New Democratic Party. 3. Weakness in regard to ad- ministration. "The prime minis- ter has had a profound distrust of the business community in Canada and as a consequence has never tried to tap or really get in touch with the abilities that lie within the corporate structure of Canada." CITES APPOINTMENT Mr. Fisher suggested that the appointment of the "senator from Bay Street"--a reference to Senator M. Wallace McCut- cheon, minister without portfo- lio in the government--under- lined this point. Tuesday's budget debate-- slated to continue today--was kept going by a succession of NDP and Social Credit speak- ers, with but. one Liberal and one Conservative contributing. as much of their fire on Social Credit as on the governmeni. This gave rise at many points to fragmentation of debate, as Social Credit MPs--seated_ di- rectly across from the New Democratic contingent -- shouted repeated interjections. One such crossfire occurred York South) attacked at some length Social Credit monetary theories, all the while being heckled by Deputy Social Credit Leader Real Caouette. Mr, Lewis said that some time ago the Social Credit party had "a glimmer of truth" in the fact that it was possible to expand the money supply and thereby reduce ' interest charges, placing money in the hands of consumers to permit absorption of increased produc- tion. "That glimmer. of truth has so blinded them that they have been unable to see anything else ever since," said Mr. Lewis. Retored Mr. Caouette: "You are wrong there." Mr. Lewis said it was only because Social Credit had been "blinded that Mr. Caouette could "feel proud'? about a letter he had received from Dr. Hjalmar Schacht, the Nazi economist, servant of "that most cruel dic- tie toward "the administrators he was left with," but lacked A notable aspect was that the tatorship." By DON HANRIGHT OTTAWA (CP) -- The Indus- trial Development Bank has been caught in a crossfire of IN MEMORIAM conflicting complaints about its operations as a federgb-agency in the field of » usiness fi- MONAGHAN -- In loving memory of mother, El if | ich nance, a The royal commission on banking and finance has heard some witnesses call the IDB a laggard, while others say it is competing unfairly with private enterprise which can do the same job. The Ontario government and its economics minister, Hon. Rob. Macaulay. said Tuesday the IDB has "outbanked the bankers in caution and de- scribed the agencys operations as meagre, paltry and grossly ined te. oe e808 e808 & Fluoride Value Claimed Hard To Determine TORONTO (CP) -- A Univer- sity of Toronto chemist says it {is impossible as yet to determine whether harm or disease is pro- duced by fluoridation of water supplies. Dr. James L. Rae, associate professor of chemistry, said no reputable medical or dental body has gone on reeord as guaranteeing the harmlessness and safety of fluoridation be- cause none of the experiments to purses on/in artificial fluorides has \gone on long enough. He said "it is important to , realize that no proof of harm is not the same as proof of no harm." Dr. Rae and Dr. A. E. Berry, ;|general manager of the Ontario Water Resources Commission, | were debating the merits of flu- Gerrow|oridation at a meeting Tuesday of the Chemical Institute of "| Canada. "Fluoridation of water does Me-| protect against dental caries," said Dr. Berry. "This has been established beyond any shadow of doubt." FOLLOW PATTERN He said leading experts in many fields have voiced their support for fluoridation. le said iiarguments against fluoridation are following the same pattern as those against vaccination, Woman Collects Names Favoring Sweepstakes CALGARY (CP)--Mrs. Mary English, back from a_ 10,000- mile campaign trip across the country, says she has the names of 300,000 Canadians who want legalized sweepstakes. The dynamic, 52 - year - old six weeks ago with $250, said Tues- day night she found overwhelm- ing support for the project, con- ducted by an organization called housewife who left here Operation Sweepstake. "In Ottawa, especially, I was practically run off my. feet." Mrs. English collected about 100,000 signatures for a petition chlorination of water and pas- teurization of milk. Dr. Rae said fluorides are deadly poisons and when taken into the body accumulate in the bones, teeth and other organs. Split Appears In U.K. Labor to go before the House of Com. mons. Newspapers in Montreal and Quebec City collected 200,- 000 in a sweepstakes poll last year. "The newspaper poll found only about 150 names against the idea of legal sweepstakes for each 100,000 in favor," she said. "I believe the ratio is about the same across Canada." The organization says thous- ands of dollars leave Canada each year in support of foreign: sponsored sweepstakes and that the money could be well spent in this country. Art Smith, Progressive Con servative member of Parliament for Calgary South, has intro- duced a private bill in the Com ' mons urging a Canadian sweep-| stakes. Mrs, English travelled about 18,000 miles since July, most of the distance alone in her car. The on) week @ ditch near Parry Sound, Ont. mishap occurred last the car skidded into By DOUG MARSHALL LONDON (CP)--A high-level split has appeared in Britain's parliamentary labor party--ap- parently over the party's anti- Common Market stand. Harold Wilson, shadow for- eign secretary and Labor's lead- ing market opponent, an- nounced Tuesday night that he will stand for the post of deputy leader under Hugh Gaitskell. The election takes place next week, The current deputy leader is George Brown, who is unhappy Less than a week ago, the ex- ecutive council of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce sug- gested that the IDB would be a good starting point for a spe- cial review of government fi- those in areas already served by private business. LOSES ACCOUNTS Earlier this year, one finance company -- Industrial Accept- ance Corporation -- complained vigorously that the IDB has overstepped its original func- tions. The company said it had lost $1,300,000 in established ac- counts to IDB and another $1,- 100,000 in prospective business. So far there has been no pub- lic defence of the IDB, a sub- sidiary of the Bank of Canada. Governor Louis Rasminsky will wear his IDB hat/when he ap- pears before commission next January. \~ nancial operations to eliminate) IDB Hit By Crossfire Of Probe Complaints However, the commission is believed to have this subject on the agenda for a closed hearing today of former central banker Graham Towers. Ex-governor James E, Coyne met the com- missioners last week, also in private. DEFINITION DIFFICULT Commissioner W. Thomas Brown, Vancouver investment dealer, said Tuesday the main difficulty seems to be varying interpretations of the banks purpose in lending money--as the act says--that is otherwise not available on "'r bl terms and conditions." Mr. Brown asked if it would be reasonable for the IDB to lend at 6% per cent if someone else was prepared to make the same loan at nine per cent. Mr. Macaulay did 'not reply directly. However, he noted that the Ontario governz-ent now is considering the establishment of its own development fund for small businesses, in which case interest rates probably would be "slightly higher than those available elsewhere. Mr, Macaulay said proof thet the IDB is not doing the job ex- pected of it lies in the fact that six other provinces have set up their own funds for this purpose. TOKYO (AP)--A Canadian jn- dustrialist predicted today Japan soon will be putting increased funds into the Canadian econ- omy. "Investment from Japan is very welcome in Canada," said Victor Oland, president of the Canadian Chamber of Com- merce, at a press conference winding up eight days of talks between Japanese and Canadian businessmen. Oland said: "Skilled immig- rants are also welcome. We have a great shortage of skilled tradesmen in Canada today." Fourteen Canadian business. men held meetings with Japan- ese industrialists both here and in Osaka. Oland said there was a general feeling trade between the two countries can be in- creased considerably in the next few years. "We have tried to convince our Japanese friends they should export .goods not com- petitive or goods which we are already importing from other countries," he said. Asked if the Canadians suc- ceeded, Oland commented: "I think so, I hope so." The competitive nature of Ja- panese goods apparently was a major item under discussion. The Japanese, last year spent nearly $150,000,000 more for Ca- nadian goods, mostly raw ma- terials, than they sold to Can- Japan May Bring Funds To Canada ada. The Japanese export fin- ished products and want to cut down the trade imbalance. J. D. Ferguson, of Rock Is- land, Ont., said he and his group tried to impress on the Japan- ese the necessity of importing products not now being sold in his country. He said imports of rubber footwear, quilts, shirts and blouses put "great quantities of people" out of work in Canada. Quotas were established, Fer- guson added, but even with them, "very substantial imports in those fields are still al- lowed." Ferguson also said Britain's entry into the European Com- mon Market should lead to more trade with Japan. Britain's join- ing the Economic European Community will mean the end of preferential treatment for Ca- nadian goods, he said, "'and we are looking for other trading partners to take up the slack." Last Session In Church's Conference GRAND RAPIDS, Mich, (AP) Reports from its committee of Christian social action come about the anti-Market position Gaitskell has adopted. the leadership two years ago votes. Recéntly, however, Wilson's star has been rising while Brown's has declined. The dep- uty leader has been attacked because of contentious televi- sion appearances, the unex- pected revelation that he is earning a high salary as indus- trial adviser on a national news- paper, and a pro-Market speech at the conference. But Brown has a reputation for blunt courage and skill at political infighting. Most Labor MPs agree the election will be illusion of solidarity recently ac- quired on t e'Common Market issue. Wilson opposed Gaitskell for} and polled nearly a third of the) DEATHS By THE CANADIAN PRESS London Vera Nikolevna Pashennaya, 75, a veteran So- viet actress who won a Stalin Prize in 1943 and two Orders of Lenin. Montreal--Cecil W, Coughlin, 64, retired vice-presidént and director of Canadian Fairbanks Morse Limited. Napanee, Ont.--Rev. George Olford, pastor of the Standard Church in Kingston; in.a two- car collision near Camden East, 15 miles: north of Napanee. Montreal--Dr. Abraham Ber- covitch, former surgeon-in-chief close and will likely shatter the,of Montreal's Reddy Memorial Hospital and lecturer in gynae- before the 40th general confer- ence of the Evangelical United Brethren Church today--the last full day of business sessions. The committee report covers recommendations for the de- nomination's stand on such items as racial matters, nu- clear testing, divorce and cap- ital punishment. Delegates Tuesday approved a plan for the reorganization of four European conferences which cover 77,000 members. It includes creation of a church construction fund, pension fund and a student exchange. Re- sponsibility for these activities now will be vested in the Cen- tral European Conference based at Stuttgart, Gern-any. Delegates from Canada re- ceived permission to establish a home for senior EUB mem- cology at the University. of Manitoba bers at Waterloo, Ont. when .David Lewis (NDP --}, School. The president, Mitchell, chaired Mrs. Don the business The main item was the can- vass of the village for CNIB,|were with Mr. and Mrs. D. J. which amounted to over $25. Mrs. O. C, Ashton and Lois Napier, Toronto. Mr. and Mrs. Clifford Hetz, Faith and Christine, Mr. and Ribs session. The attendance plaque for largest number of mothers in! call, was awarded to Mrs. Harry Lade's room. ' The Home and School Associ- ation under the 'convenership of Mrs. R. Bryson will conduct the annual UNICEF drive for funds on Wednesday evening, October 31. Last year the children collect- ed $179.72 in this district. Mrs. Ted Draper introduced the guest speaker, Mr. S. Jack- son, a social worker from the Day Case Centre in Cobourg, who 'presented a talk on "Be- havior Problems in Maladjust- ed Children." The next meeting will be in the form of a social evening on Tuesday, November 20 at the Meadowcrest Junior School. WEDDING. ANNIVERSARY Mr. and Mrs. Horace Grills, Queen street, Brooklin, recently honored his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Charles Grills, Columbus, who were celebrating their 59th wedding anniversary. The couple was showered with cards, telephone calls and telegrams. Guests attended from Lind- say, Burketon, Oshawa, Toron- to and Brooklin. Mr. and Mrs. Sydney Lock- yer visited on Sunday with Mr. and Mrs. Alan Wilson and daughters Glenda and Suzanne of Nestleton,/and attended the anniversary' services at Nestle-' ton United Church. Both grand- daughters:are members of the choir at Nestleton. BRIDGE SCORES Members of Brooklin Dupli- cate Bridge Club held a series of games on Wednesday eve- ning at Township Hall. Highest Scores -- Mrs. J. Timmins, Mrs. R. Drew, 82; Mrs. M. R. Clarke, Mrs. W. A. Heron, 81%; Mrs. Robert Heron, Jack Patterson, 7744; Ted Heron, R. Morris, 7644; J. Buchanan, Mr. March, 68. Robot At Work Exploring Under Water PORT HUENEME, Calif. (AP)--The first of an army of underwater robots--capable of opening to exploration the mys- terious world now hidden by wa- ter--has gone to work. Shown publicly for the first time Tuesday, Shell Oil Com- pany's mechanical roustabout is a remote - controlled $250,000 gadget that swims, sees, hears and has an arm to turn valves and wield tools. Designed to help in the dril)- ing and maintenance of oil fields hundreds of feet below the ocean's surface, the robot was hailed by company spokesmen as holding the key to vast oil reserves beyond the reach of conventional methods, Dr. J. W. Clark of Hughes Aircraft Company, which built the robot for Shell, said deep water drilling is just one of many uses ahead for these me- chanical men. ' "Mag at last has a way of tapping the wealth of the' ocean," said Dr, Clark. "Under- water mines, to supplement dwindling surface resources, and underwater agriculture to feed our exploding population, are made now possible on a vast scale." The 10-foot-tall robot has pro- pellors on opposite sides to en- able it to manoeuvre in the water, a television camera so its shipboard operator can see what it is doing, an arm which can be equipped with socket wrench or claws, and sonar to locate lost tools or wellheads, the capped pipes which extend above the surface of wells. Audley Group Takes Position In Liquor Vote By MRS. FRED PUCKRIN AUDLEY -- The president, Mrs. G. Astley, presided at the UCW meeting, held at the church on Wednesday evening. A donation was sent to the Vote "No" committee for the Pickering liquor vote. : There was a discussion © the resulting effects of liquor outlets in this area. Mrs. George Squire gave the worship service, assisted by Mrs. S. Powell and Mrs. Fred Puckrin. Mrs. Fred Puckrin gave a summary of a day at the school for UCW at the OLC last August, The hostess, Mrs. C. Squire, served refreshments. 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