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< CIGAR SMOKING Clyde Gilmour, Toronto movie and musie critic, gets a light for his Havana Wednesday night from Dr. D. J. McLean, pres- ident of the Ontario Counly Medical Society. Mr. Gilmour, in a humorous address en- titled, "Can Hollywood Make Us Neurotic?" outlined some of the false concepts created by the motion picture indus- try while speaking to some 75 area doctors and their wives at an OCMS clinical session. During the afternoon leading medical men conducted a sci- entific program for the doc- tors. --Oshawa Times Photo. Speaker Cites Flaws In The Movie Industry agit charge how- Gil- Clyde Gilmour, Toronto movie and music critic, Wednesday night told a group of Ontario County Medical Society mem- bers and their wives one of the main accusations which can ¥ honestly be appointed at movies is that they single out people as labels. In a humorous address deal- ing with the faults of movies, which he entitled, 'Can Holly- wood Make Us Neurotic," Mr Gilmour said the screen again and again preaches wrongly that people should be thought of a8 groups. SCREEN NOT DYING Mr. Gilmour discredited rumor that the screen is dying. He said the screen has a higher batting average of good mate- rial than other media of enter- tainment, According to the speaker, movies are the most eloquent of all story telling media be- cauge a movie explores the face By "exploring the face, they "open a little window to tell us what we are like." Mr. Gilmour said that every year there are at least a dozen, ood movies BASIC CONCEPTS The movie critic said there Fine Coin Collection On Display 1t was in 1957 that Don Wilson. | now a director of the newly formed Oshawa Coin Club, was| bitten by the numismatic bug.) Today he is the proud owner of a coin collect luc at me {than $1,500 containing such rari- ties as a pair of 1948 Canadian silver dollars and a misprinted $1 bill, green on on side 1 blue on the reverse. The Wilson coll" ion i ly of Canadian and Newfound-| land coins and bills and ~+' a complete set of '"'shin pla ters" from 1870 to 1923, two| Canadian $5 gold piec and a few U.S. coins such as a beau: ftiful $20 gold piece dated 1874. Mr. Wilson's rare and interest- {ing collection is on view all this 'week at the Henry House Mu- {seum, sharing honors with two other special displays, one of IC. W. Jeffrey's drawings and the other, an exhibit of old telephones. Visitors to these special dis iplays have been charmed by ithe manner in which Mrs {Ewart McLaughlin and her Imittee have arranged the famous Jeffreys drawings {Wherever possible, actual items from the museum have been {grouped next to illustrations fea- uring them. In one particular lrase three ancient blackened anterns from the Luke farm t Kedron hang over almosi identical sketches, looking for I the world as if Jeffreys' vivid drawings have actually sprung fo life in Oshawa's museum i As a bonus to these pbs visitors to the ouse tk veek may 9th century penny bicvele loaned by the Victor bycle shop, a racing 'odel th 1 was entered often in the com- petitions held at Prospect Park in the good old days. Also on view for the first tim: re some vellowed newspapers nd periodicals recently found n an old Colborne street house v G. Fish and donated to the bshawa and District Historical oc i ety. These include The rarmer's Advocate, 1878, the bshawa Vindicator, 1879, the} British American, 1863 and an| 66 issue of Canada Farmer By a coincidence, across the all in the reconstructed parlor ands the actual chair used by| muel Luke, one time edtior The Oshawa Vindicator. J The Henry House will close its doors on. this unusual and fascinating exhibition next Sun- day night. Meanwhile the pub- lic has a chance to see the drawings, telephones and the Wilson coin collection every Hay from 2 to 5.30 and 7 to 9 ».m. ' s al spe H farthing 1 are certain basic ness. 'One of these," he said. "is the concept that the right to the jaw is the only possible solution to many problems "' According to the speaker, if it is possible to ignore some of the concepts portrayed in the mov- doctors attended a clinical ses- concepts {which still prevail in show busi-ling is a poor movie, Mr. religious movie currently s mour said. The speaker mentioned sev- eral flaws in the practices o {he thought he Oshavon Sones THURSDAY, APRIL 20, 1961 PAGE FIFTEEN SECOND SECTION The first positive step in the creation of a university for Osh- awa was made at a luncheon meeting of the education com- of Commerce, when a five-man committee was appointed to be- gin preparatory investigations a university at Oshawa. The committee, created on a motion by Sydney Hopkins, will be enlarged to include a num- ber of prominent citizens who (will endeavor to create a cli- mate in which a university could be founded. COMMITTEE FORMED Members of the Chamber of Commerce appoint- mittee of the Oshawa Chamber as to the feasibility of locating Oshawa School of Commerce. He said quired before a University Charter is granted. Mr. Mill- man was active with a group of! Oshawa citizens who tried to in- fluence the location of York Uni- versity at Oshawa. The speaker told the educa- tion committee of the Chamber that there was no sense in just {saying we want a university -- |"we must show a need" -- "'w must show that we have done something about it." SHOESTRING START - He recalled that Carleton Col-| {lege at Ottawa had started on a shoestring, as evening classes for mature people at the High |we are doing the right thing| ed to form the nucleus of a uni- With extension courses at OCVI, versity committee were: Sydney but we have to go further, the ¢ T. Hopkins, E. A. Bassett, Ald. next step is the establishment|the various types of establish- KE. F. Bastedo, T. K. Creighton, QC, and Dr. Claude Vipond. Norman C. 'Defense Starts A Toronto man, Wednesday told Oshawa magistrate's court Millman outlined earlier the steps that are generally re- university, five sites were con- tute being set up in Oshawa. of degree subjects. Mr. Millman noted that in the considerations about a First Steps Are Taken To Create University sidered to be suitable for uni- versity purposes. All of these sites could provide the services necessary for a university loca- tion. MUST Chairman of the Education Committee, George L. Roberts said that in addition to a uni- versity committee being set up that someone in the area with prestige would have to act as a {focal point on the creation of a university. He mentioned the names of several prominent men who had acted as the focal point in the creation of other Canadian universities. This someone he said, usually makes the university his hobby. The committee also discussed ments set up for technical edu- cation, and the possibilities of a trades school or technical insti- sneer To Widen | Turn Area the purpose of a} the movie makers -- all with alohureh was to welcome every-|@ r one, no matter how wicked he During the afternoon, the|mioht be, ; humorous aspect to them. Joseph Talbot Milton Smith ies, it is possible to emerge Sion sponsored by the OCMS in{59 of 91 Mutual street, Toronto more an adult. He said it is the same with a dare -- by| {association with the igonring a dare it is possible to|of Oshawa General Hospital. become more of an adult than the person making the dare. said, are not dying off due to television, He said a daily aver- (age of 40,000 people buy theatre {tickets every day in Toronto. {INDUSTRY RAPPED Mr. Gilmour severely rap- ped the movie industry for] "religiosity." He said movie| Basically a scientific doctors. Dr. C. Toronto, discussed allergy. Dr. Joselyn Rogers, Jr., also of Toronto, discussed obstetrical problems, eclampsia and Dr. Henry Gold- enberg, Toronto Haemotologist, pro- gram, notable speakers, all lead- Motion pictures, Mr. Gilmour|ers in their medical fields, out-1a5y College grounds, lined topics of interest to all " Jeans t Collins - Williams, of | |day Adventist Church, at a con |ference on the Oshawa Mission-| July 2, | 1960. He is also charged with wo traffic offences. Evidence had been heard on paediatric ypoce charges at previous hear- but Wednesday was the .es had ings, first tin.e defence wit mainly pean called. The case was not completed. Magistrate F. S. |Ebbs remanded the accused to makers constantly make some-| discussed management of theyroo 31 He said he would try thing phoney or fake out of something which is supposed to be sacred. People who never go ere t church become alarmed when|on display throughout the clini- Wednesday, a columnist points out some anaemic patient. Exhibits by different drug|' manufacturing companies were cal session. pos meer oess, | Erapcise Tocsin { and money"to" see. Plan Completed City Clerk Roy Barrand will be the first civic official to be| in addition to Mr. Barrand, are Mayor Christine Thomas {(ex- {ties from his own department to notified in case of actual or officio), Fire Chief Ray Hobbs, simulated nation-wide attack, as| Deputy Chief Constable Duncan in the upcoming Exercise Toc-|Ferguson (in place of Chief sin (Alarm Bell) on May 5. Constable Herbert Flintoff), Dr. If Mr. Barrand is ill, out of|C. C. Stewart, city MOH, Wel- town or not available, his sec-|fare Administrator Herbert ond-in-command Harold Tripp,|Chesebrough, City Engineer city treasurer, will take over.[Fred Crome, Treasurer Harold Third in line is City Assessment! E. Tripp, Assessment Commis- Commissioner Eldon Kerr. sioner Eldon Kerr and Lt.-Col Each of the department heads| > F. Wotton, co-ordinator of at city i wick: tw ' [public survival, at city-hall will pick two depu-| A list of emergency planning : + tasks with suggested responsible nay 0 was released by Lt.-Col. Wotton. be notified and all city depart- The city EMO decided to meet ments alerted under these cir-\on the third Wednesday of each cumstances. month. This chain of authority was forged Wednesday morning *as| CELEBRATING BIRTHDAYS the two-month-old Oshawa Em-| ergency Measures Organiaztion| met for the first time. o set aside a whole day to try and finish things up. Milton Smith told the court, there was an __|"everybody welcome' sign at the entrance to the missionary college, on the date of the inci- dent. leave the grounds and was roughed up while looking for friends to help him settle dif- ferences he had with church of- ficials. - The accused said he had slap- ped Monte W. Myers, a church elder. "I had 12 years of intense suffering at the hands of Mr. Myers", he said, "and when he said, 'Smith, I've tried to coun- sel you', that was too much for me. I slapped him on the cheek." Mr. Milton Smith said he didn't think he had hit Rev. Andrew Ferrier, of Simcoe, with a hat. "I don't think I had my hat in my hand," he said. "I am very conscious of my bald head and I usually keep my hat on it." On the 10-member committee, Shouts Save | Small Child | The life of a one-year-old baby was saved by the frantic shouts of a youne neichbor. at RR 3! Bowmanville, Wednesday. Johnny Korsten, 5, shouted when he saw a baby dragging under a moving cleaner truck, next door. The baby, Dennis Campbell, had crawled under the truck while it was parked. His sweater had apparently caught in the steering mech- anism, Dennis is the son of Mr. and Mrs. Stanley Campbell, who live south of Highway 2, near the Gravel Pit road. The incident was reported by Mrs. Doris Jef- ferys. She said Dennis suffered only gravel burns, but if the truck had started to go forward, his neck would have been brok-| en. The truck had been backing when it was spotted by the Kor-| sten boy. | The truck had been in the Campbell driveway and Johnny| was across the road, Mrs. Jef- frev said. When he saw what| was happening, Johnny shouted to the driver, "you have a baby caught under the truck'. The Campbell family definitely feel| this shout saved the baby's life.| BUFFALO RUSTLING TAIPEI (AP) -- Police in Southern Formosa have an ef- fective way of investigating buf falo rustling. They ask the buf-| falo. A farmer near Pingtung) accused a neighbor of stealing his water buffalo, but the buf-| falo refused to follow the com- mands of 'the accuser. Set free, the beast promptly walked to the house of the accused farmer and started munching hay. Congratulations and best wishes to the following resi- dents of Oshawa and dis- trict who are celebrating their birthdays today: Terry Moore, 295 Athol St. east; David Essex, 65 Sec ond avenue; Catherine Dyck 204 Thomas St.; Mrs. Helen Wright, RR 2, Oshawa. and Jeanne Foster, 110 Wainu: street, Whitby OSHAWA INDUSTRIAL electricians attended a day and a half "Power Plant Rat- ing" seminar sponsored jointly by the Oshawa Public Utili- ties Commission and the Elec- trical Bureau of Canada at North Oshawa Park | Elects Executive Officers for the ensuing year were elected and plans were dis- cussed for a park clubhouse at a meeting of the North Oshawa Park Neighborhood Association The officers "are: J. Cook, president; E. Moore, vice-presi- dent; C. Howard, treasurer and W. Rowden, secretary. A general membership meet- ing will be held Sunday after- noon, April 30, to inform resi- |dents of the area of the various | activities being planned CLEANING AND CULTURE LONDON (CP) -- Artist Michael Osterwell has found a new way of bringing his works to the public. He hangs them in the launderette he owns. the Masonic Temple Monday and Tuesday. The seminar answered various questions about the electrical systems | of the various industries and was designed to provide a streamlined methed for in { He said he was ordered to ; Post-|ywas charged with disturbing a graduate education committee religious gathering and assault-| ing two elders of the Seventh-| | | MEETING SPEAKER | John Cameron Pallett, MLA for Peel Riding, will be the speaker at the annual meeting of the Oshawa Progressive Conservative Association in Hotel Genosha this Friday night. Mr. Pallett is second parliamentary secretary to Prime Minister Diefenbaker. New Service Club Forming In Oshawa Having the right mental atti- tude was the theme of a hard-| hitting talk given to prospective Optimist™€lub of Oshawa and Whitby, at Hotel Genosha Wed- ,repared in the Toronto district| Canada. Guest speaker Thomas Ken- ment of Public Works. R. P. Power Rating", is designed to| 0 charter Henderson, 3 member of the Windsor Optimist| (Harbors and Rivers Engineer health of their industry. After Club in 1934, and a past lieuten-|ing) of Toronto, will be respon- attending the day |pestay evening. ldall, of Clarkson, a ant governor of Optimist Inter- national, told the prospective members that being a charter | "member of an Optimist Club i {one of the finest experiences they could have in life. The speaker outlined ideas on how to use the Optimist creed in a person's daily endeavors. {He noted that, "if we have |health and sufficient driving |force, we can succeed in almost lany venture," but, "'no human |being ever achieved anything without proper motivation." Mr. Kendall told of the high ideals of the Optimist Club and | of the service the clubs provide to boys. However, he noted, | "you can't sprinkle the perfume of happiness without spilling a few drops on yourself." The next Optimist Club meet- ing will be held at the Hotel| Genosha on Monday at 5.30 | p.m.; former Optimist Club members, or prospective mem- bers are invited to attend. t dustrial electricians to _ an- alyse the entire electrical system -- or any part of it at their respective industries. Shown at the seminar wind-up Tuesday noon left to right, | | are: R. H. Hanslam, Elec- | members of the now forming At Harbor OTTAWA A $64,500 con- tract has been awarded by the # Department of Public Works to the Marine Pipeline and Dredg- ging Limited of Vancouver, B.C., for dredging in four areas of the harbor at Oshawa, it was announced today by the Hon. Michael Starr, Labor, on behalf of the Hon. David J. Walker, minister of public works. The firm submitted the low- est bid of six in response to ad- vertising for public tenders. The high bid was $88,000. The work is scheduled for completion by July 14, 1961. Maintenance dredging is to be carried out at the harbor ap-| proach, harbor channel and the| inner harbor centre area tol depths of 21 feet at the harbor and entrance channel and 23 feet at the approach, The inner| |entrance channel and turning 'area are also to be widened to the east under this contract as a result of a proposed new The annual dredging is re- {quired to provide adequate depths for commercial vessels of 20 foot draft using the harbor for deliveries of coal and oil, which are of vital importance] {to the industries in the area. A total of 100,000 cubic yards of sand, silt and clay are to be removed. Plans and specifications were |engineer's office of the Depart- district engineer sible for supervision of the | work. | CHARGE DRIVERS USING NEW ROAD COBOURG--Complaints by workers that motorists are im- peding construction work on | the Port Hope-Brighton sec- tion of Highway 4401 have re- | sulted in the OPP issuing a | warning. Corporal' Lyle Erskine of the OPP stated Monday that prosecution will follow the ap- prehension of a driver using | the highway which will not be officially opened until later in the year. ' Cpl. Erskine said, "There will be no warnings issued to an offender. The part of the new highway has signs warn- ing of trespass and offenders will be hauled into court." trical. Bureau of Canada, W. H. Girard, of the Ontario Hy- dro lighting division, J. R. Risebrough, OPUC meter .de- partment superintendent and G. F. Shreve, OPUC general manager. ~Oshawa Times Photo Minister of ...TAN ROBB, LEFT, president of the Oshawa Get-Together Club, is shown presenting a cheque for $100 to the mothers of the Oshawa and District branch of the Canadian Dia- | betic Association. The Hon. | M. B. Dymond, Ontario Min- ister of health, looks on. Dr. Dymond was guest speaker at the fourth annual dinner meet- ing held by the association at | Northminster United Church, | Wednesday night. The $100 cheque was presented to be | used to send a child to camp. ' An installation of officers was also held at the banquet. It was conducted by Dr. 0. G. Mills, honorary president of the branch. --Oshawa Times Photo Family Doctor Needed Says Health Minister The Hon. M. B. Dymond, On- jcolumns were cut out of news-| The speaker said he could tario minister of health, called |papers. I don't think they serve think of no disease in which for an increase in "family doc- tors," in his address at the fourth annual dinner banquet of the Oshawa branch of the Cana- dian Diabetic Association, at Northminster United Church, Wednesday night. : He said the family doctor is a 20th century necessity. "You should know your doctor and have confidence in him," Dr. Dymond said. Speaking as a doctor, he said: "We don't treat a dis- ease, we treat a whole person." | He suggested that people should {consult a doctor often and do exactly what he says. He said too many people put the doc- tor's medicine in the cupboard and then follow the advice of a any valuable service," Dr.| {Dymond said. The speaker referred to the rapid growth of specialization in medicine. He said specializa- {tion can serve a useful function, "but there is a tendency to | overspecialize." | He pointed out that the mod- ern family doctor doesn't pre- Isent the same image he did in the old days. 'There has been |a great change in his outlook and attitude." IMAGE HAS CHANGED The past 40 or 50 years has |been the '"'golden age of medi- cine," Dr. Dymond said. Due to the rapid advance, the image of the family doctor has had to {dent; the "do it yourself" principle was more important than it is with diabetics. "You have to understand what is going on," he told the group. He said there must be complete co-operation be! een doctor and patient. OFFICERS INSTALLED Officers installed at the ban- quet were: Albert Rose, Bow- manville, president; Mrs. G. Glassford, Oshawa, past presi- Mrs. G. Bright, Sea- grave, vice - president; Mrs. William Perrow, Oshawa, treas- urer; Mrs. Ian Mastin, Osh- awa, corresponding secretary; Mrs. Albert Rose, recording sec retary and Miss Mary Wales, membership secretary. {change. neighbor or a newspaper medi- cal column. : : "In the interests of society, it would be better if all medical Plant Power 'Seminar Held Here Seventeen industrial electri- He said a student now has 13 years of study after he passes his entrance exams. "I often wonder how a student's brain can contain all the knowl- ledge and apply it. But 1 also |realize there is great deal yet {to be learned." | Dr. Dymond said the doctors of the past and the doctors to- day still had a common pur- | pose -- "dedication to patients." Among head table guests were: Mayor Christine Thomas, who brought greetings from city council and the Hon. T. D. Thomas, MLA, who introduced the guest speaker. Other head table guests were W. R. Lean and Mrs. Lean; Albert Rose and Mrs. Rose; Rev. H. A, Mellow and Mrs. Mellow; and G. D. Glassford He said there has been a de- velopment which is the product of the -"do it yourself" age; more people have a desire to learn about their own body and and Mrs. Glassford. Mrs. Glass- ford chaired the meeting. Entertainment was provided by Miss Jean Bright and her dance group as well as by a week attended an vocal group, "The Executives." The speaker was thanked by Mrs. Kenneth Werry. cians this seminar _ sponsored| health problems. "They have a electrical bl : a : g i intioc! sincere desire to know what is by the Oshawa Public Utilities said, Commission, in co-operation|& {with the Electrical Buruea of Board Refuses able to return to their re- More Bathrooms spective industries and analyse Ruling that both casesing extra bathrooms we are put- their entire electrical DOWer|yiolated the principle of being|ting our blessing on something system. used illegally before the advent{which was illegal in the first The course provided a|of the city's zoning bylaw, Osh-|place." streamlined method of an-aywa's three-man Committee of] The committee turned down alysing the entire electrical sys-| Agjustment Wednesday night re- Mr. and Mrs. G. Cox, Lans- tem -- or any part of it -- USiNg|¢,ceq to allow John Drumm, |downe drive, who want to build present staff and standard in-iyjo.o gireet and F. L. Hoefs,|a basement apartment, on- struments, for. the various os Mill street, to install additional|grounds of insufficient room awa industries. Tt was designed bathrooms in their residences. height and lot frontage and side- expressly as £ agement The court observed that for(yard requirements. weapon, by leading bib ° each family in a dwelling, kitch- engineers of the. electrical In en and toilet facilities must be/ BANK BUILDING The seminar, called "A Plant| {tell industrialists the electrical] and a half| of lectures, plant electricians dustry CAN RATE EFFICIENCY During the seminar, it was noted that a plant-power rating provided. Mr. Hoefs admitted three fam- ilies live in his house and he {wanted to add a third bathroom. A Toronto - Dominion Bank branch will be built on Simcoe street south in line with exist- ing setbacks, despite a C1 zon- tells industrial electricians if{pmr. Drumm asked to install a|ing which calls for a 30-foot set- their present system provides efficient and uninterrupted pro- duction -- good employee safe- ty and morale -- full value from |the industry's power bill and {protection and economy of good maintenanace. | Questions answered during a |plantpower seminar include good utility service -- are in- coming voltages adequate and are power interruptions kept to a minimum Is the system a well-planned system -- is there efficient lay- out, are protective devices effective and is there capacity for expansion in the industry's electrical system. Does the indfstry have proper equipment -- is it job-rated to production needs, is it properly maintained and is there corro- sion from heat and wear on the lectrical equipment LOAD QUALITIES The fourth question the plant power rating seminar attempts to answer for industrial elec- tricians is does his industry have efficient loading -- are the department '"'peaks" offset, does the industry have no penal- isecond bathroom in his non- |conforming duplex home. SYMPATHY VOICED Committee Member Ed. Cline sympathized with the applicants !*"from the point of view of sani- |tation" but he and Harry Woods |concurred with Chairman L. §.| |Hyman's opinion that "by allow-| Woman Jailed For Bigamy LINDSAY (Special) -- Mrs. Helen K. Churchill, of Oshawa and Cambray, was sentenced tol four months in Mercer Reform-| {atory by Magistrate W. R. Philp Wednesday after pleading guilty to a charge of bigamy It was one of the first cases of! bigamy ever heard here {| "I have given the case serious| |consideration,"" said Magistrate Philp, "and agree that the ac- cused has co-operated fully with (the crown and that she h.s Leer |anxious to provide a home for {her children. In saying four back. C. D. Chivers, appearing for the bank, agreed to inclusion of a clause in the approval that the applicant be required to move the building at his own expense if future road widening de- mands. SEVEN APPROVALS Seven other applications were approved: L. Balogh, Gibbons street, house renovating © with in- sufficient setback and sideyard. W. Wasylyk, Malaga road, extension of non-conforming use in C3 zone. D. M. Alloway, Times Pub- lishing Co., building extension, non-conforming use. A C2 use in a C1 zone. Mrs. M. Szyszka, Olive ave- nue, addition of verandah, house to exceed allowed lot coverage, Must keep in line with street setbacks. \ J. A. Yanch, Arlington ave- nue, building rear addition and side porch, insufficient side- i] ty for poor power factor and 1S months I know that the sen-, S. Bradley, Gibbons street, ex- there anv harmful overloading|tence is one of the lowest ..r|tension of non-conforming use. of the electrical equipment in any particular plant or indus- trial department. Lecturers during the day and a half course included E. W. Hill, of Canadian Westinghouse, whose topic was "Incoming Service Data," C. Trenholme, of Ontario Hydro, whose topics were "Layouts and Plantpower Rating" and "Circuit Break- ers," W. H. Girard, Ontario | Hydro lighting division, "Light- ing." and J. Risebrough, Oshawa Public Utilities Com- mission, meter departmen' su- perintendent, whose subjects were 'Report to Management" and "Power Bill". this serious offence." Mrs. Churchill said she mar- ried Kenneth Churchill, of Osh awa, when she was 16 years nf age and lived with him for five years. In September 1959, she went through a form of mar- riage with Ivan Woolcott, of {Cambray, knowing her first {husband to be alive. Woolcott did not know of her first mar- riage until a few months ago, she said. Her mother, Mrs. Sills, of Oshawa, said her daughter loved her children and tried to make a home for them. Two of] Northminster United Church will build an addition, exceed- ing lot coverage allowance by 11:2 per cent. The court was told the addition will not be closer than 41 feet to Carnegie avenue. AUTO STOLEN A 1960 Pontiac was reported stolen sometime during last night. The car was a "suntan copper" color and bore license number B5813. The car is owned by Edward D. Lukow, of 480 St. Lawrence street. It was {the four children are living with 'Mrs. Sills, stolen from that address.