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8 RR TT whodioeure T nov . AH by Times-Gozette Publishers Limited, 57 Simcoe St. S., Oshawa, Ont. Page 6 Ce Friday, December 21, 1956 Cluishings Should Not Be Marred By Car Fatalities { With the Christmas season, with all its festivities--some of them quite for dign to the real spirit of the Christmas festival--it is necessary to lay stress on the importance of keeping the sea- son_unmarred by tragedies arising out of automobile accidents. Year after yégr, the festive season has ' seen a loflg list of car fatalities. And in too many cases, these accidents have been dug to excessive drinking in the course ofthe Christmas festivities. : Jt is perhaps quite futile to point out tht the drunken orgies which are too offen perpetrated in the name of ristmas celebrations have no place whatsoever in the true observance of the season. It is a reflection on the vegy name of Christmas and the event arpund which it is centred, to have ob- setved by excessive drinking. That faet, however, we realize has very lit- tle influence on those who use the oc- casion as one to indulge in more than the usual amount of drinking of alco- holie beverages. But from the standpoint of keeping Christmas free from tragedies on our GUEST EDITORIAL streets and highways, it is highly im. portant that any drinking should be done in moderation, Even more impor tant is the necessity of those who have indulged in a drunken Christmas orgy to stay away from the wheel of a car when they are in an inebriated condi- tion. If these people are detrmined to drink, as far too many are, then they should at least make other plans for their transportation, and refrain from driving their own cars. To drive while under the influence of liquor is an invitation to tragedy. In many cases it might be almost suicidal. But every year there are instances of men who have no control"over them- selves trying to take control of a car and transforming it into an instrument of death. I We hope that all of our readers will have a happy Christmas, and a safe one. We hope that none of them will be numbered among the victims of car accidents during the festive season. They can safeguard their own lives and the lives of others by not driving if they have been drinking. History's Amazing Paradox By REV. 8S. C. H. ATKINSON Christmas is truly an amazing para- dox. It is history's most remarkable tradition. Christmas belongs to the past; to a world so far back in time that nothing is the same except hu- manity with its spiritual hunger, its sing and its dependence upon God. ' As the centuries have slipped by, Christmas has become the possession of many lands which have left their own distinctive mark on the celebra- tion. It is also a fact that much that is in our celebration of Christmas is not Christmas, but resembles Saturnalia, the ancient Roman festival. Some- where along the way Christmas has picked up Santa Claus with his red suit and clay pipe, a figure who threat- ens to sweep away all possibility of re- membering whose birthday Christmas marks. Disturbed as we may be about what has happened to the celebration of Christmas, we would not be without it, because it was at Christmas that our salvation came to the world. Christmas brought glory and consecration to the routine way most of us must travel. Christmas means the coming of One who taught and lived the only life which can bring peace to our own hearts and to the world. Christmas gave to the world its only hope. And the One who was born at Christmas is still the hope of the hun- gry, the dispossessed, and of those bound in political and economic slavery at this hour. It is incumbent upon Christians to celebrate Christmas as Christians should, and to remind the world that Christmas means that God gave His Son that the world, through His life and His death upon the Cross, might be saved. Ontario's Best Vote Record The honor of having the highest per- centage voting in a municipal election this month goes to the little mining town of Levack, some 50 miles north- west of Sudbury. It is recorded that in its municipal election, exactly 81 per cent of the electors of the town went to the polling booths and cast their ballots in the contests for municipal offices, What is even more remark- able is that this record was achieved in spite of the fact that the chief office, that of reeve of the town, was filled by acclamation. This is an example of enthusiastic citizenship which other municipalities in Ontario would do well to follow. It certainly shows up Oshawa's voting record of 37.39 per cent in a very bad light. When one considers that on elect- tion day in Levack the streets were covered with a heavy fall of snow, and the temperature was at a low level, the enthusiasm of the people there for the Other Editors' Views SHE'S BUSY NOW (The Printed Word) Some months back this publication noted the case of a young lady employed in a crown corp- oration. She said that she really had no more work than she could do in 10 minutes a day. Since that time she has been given two assist. ants, She now says she is busy 20 minutes « day, of which 15 minutes is used up thinking of something for her younger assistants to do. The Daily Times-Gazette T. L. WILSON, F AL M. McINTYRE HOOD, Editor. 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DAILY AVERAGE NET PAID CIRCULATION FOR NOVEMBER 14,166 exercise of their franchise is certainly commendable, There was nothing exceptional to bring out this heavy vote--other than the great interest of the people in the affairs of their town. There were 11 candidates for six seats on the council, and five candidates for three seats on the board of education. In proportion, that was about the same situation as existed in the recent municipal election in Oshawa. Yet only 19 out of every 100 electors failed to show up at the polls on the election day in Levack. It may be that in smaller commun- ities, the election interest is more keen. But it should not be that way. In a city like Oshawa, with its annual budg- et of over $4,000,000, there is a great deal more at stake than there is in a little mining town like Levack. So if the electors of Levack can make so splendid a showing, why can the citi- zens of Oshawa not do likewise. Editorial Notes Toronto has now got rid of its last Communist representative on an elect- ed body. It is a great reflection on the capital city that it ever elected any Communists. Bits Of Verse IN SPITE OF WORDS Externally 'the well-grooved record plays The ancient theme, the hackneyed Christmas phrase Of silver bells of starry altitudes. The splendor is submerged in platitudes. Where is a lexicon. with words both new And pure enough, and syntax fresh and true To tell an old-new joy? My penn is trite, Inadequate to make the tarnish bright, But after all---and all the words are said-- The stars persist in shining in my head Undimmed by flat banalities. They gleam Like angels' faces in a holy dream. M. E. Drew Bible Thoughts These persons are cared for as never be- fore. Some of the comfort intended for them Is directed to scheming persons. Do justice to the afflicted and need: Ps, n 1 GL Air coma i MAN-MADE VOLCANO A SCOTS AMERICAN LOG Fear U.S. Has Defaulted On Obligations To Hungary By WILFRED TAYLOR of The Edinburgh Scotsman WASHINGTON, D.C. - The State Department has circulated a memorandum to all newspapers urging them to celebrate Dec. 10 AS "Human Rights Day". It was on Dec. 10 that the UN General Assembly adopted, amid a pounding surf of rhetoric, the Universal Deciaration of Human Rights -- on Dec. 10, 1948. Here in Washington the "News" has been quick to take note of this exhortation. Its front page, this morning, is devoted to an editorial headed "Let The Bells Toll". A sombre piece of writing, it ends with the following words: "The least the American people can do is to dedicate Dec. 10 to the job of impressing forever upon man's memory the terrible lesson of Hungary , . . of remind- ing all of the consequences of ignoring the sufferings of other men , ... of piedging our sacred honor never to waste a minute until a way is found to make a repetition of the Hungarian mas. sacre too costly for even bar- barians to risk." Every day we become more aware of how deeply the Ameri- can conscience is troubled over what has happened in Hungary. A number of editorials have plainly. stated that the United States has defaulted on its obliga- tions to Hungary. On the radio, the other night, we heard the voice of Billy Graham. speaking from Minnesota pouring scorn on the failure to give active aid to Hungary, WAVE OF SPENDING This deep and anguished econ- cern is in sharp contrast with the comfort and prosperity all around one as the tidal wave of Christmas spending, boosted by the advertisers on every channel, builds up. (It came as a shock to learn that there are over 20,000 needy children in Washington to be taken care of at Christmas time.) It is consoling to see American idealism prevailing over American materialism. Some of the political columnists are scolding the President for what they conceive to be the Administration's failure to de- velop a constructive policy on the Middle East. Not much is to be said, writes Walter Lippmann today, for gearing efforts to- wards the restoration of the in some quarters, that Sir An- thony Eden ought to come like a penitent to Canossa - not that there is snow in Jamaica -- is being challenged. There certainly seems to be scope for lubricating the mechanism of Anglo-Ameri- can relations. All the British of- ficials whom we have met here show no sign at all of any con- trition. After all if it comes to the point the United Kingdom has put up with a lot of discomfort for the sake of freedom and it is going to suffer more discomfort, Lots of Americans are thinking that it is time that it should be put plainly on the record that Britain is not just a naughty child who has smashed up the nursery but a valiant fighter for liberty and decency. COCKTAIL PARTIES The cocktail party is a great institution in Washington. So far we have avoided coming in con- tact with it. But we recall the advice given by a French Am- bassador here to a young diplo- mat. The thing to do at a cock- tail party in Washington, he said, was to greet your hostess, seize a glass * and move steadily through the room. Keep on talk- ing. It doesn't matter what you say because nobody will hear you, And keep on moving until you are back where you started. Quietly tip the contents of your glass into a flower pot, thank your hostess, and get home in good time for dinner. Coincidence continues merrily to dog our steps. We had lunch yesterday with a radio commen- tator who turned out to be an old friend of two of our oldest friends. He also knew the Rev. Dr. David Read with whom we stayed in New York and sang his praises loudly as have other Americans whom we have met. A SCOTTISH ESTATE ~ It certainly is no liability to be a Scot here. People constantly come up to you and shake you by the hand and, as far as we can make out, congratulate you for something which just happened to you, for being a born Scot, One man had a different tale, He had inherited a small estate in Scot- land. He found that he was paying out more in taxation for posses- sion than he was gaining. So he went. to Scotland to wind up his estate. In order to do so he had status quo ante. The implication, to talk things over with an e]- QUEEN'S PARK Chamber's View Not Popular One By DON O'HEARN Special Correspondent te The Daily Times-Gazette TORONTO---The Ontario Cham- ber of Commerce won't win friends and influence people with its brief to the government on health insurance. It was very strongly against the principle. This, we would think, is not in agreement with the views of the great majority of the people of the province. And it isn't in agreement with the thinking of its government. UNUSUAL ARGUMENT The brief also had some un- usual argument. One point it 'made' was that Ontario taxpay- ers--at no advantage to themsel- ves--would carry the cost. How it arrived at the conclus- fon of "no advantage" is difficult to figure out Hospital costs for now out of Ontario citizens, another The only new burden would be in additional services that might become available to all. And surely when there are ad- ditional services these constitute an "advantage' CRITICIZE COMMISSION The - water sources commission is on the pan again Mayor Nelson of Sarnia who appears to be the self-appointed leader of the revolt is protesting a commission order that his city install a disposal plant by July 1 next There are others in Ontario who are the in one being paid pockets of way or You's be disappointed in the or- er. For it marks a step that has been needed for some time--en- forcement of health. regulations which have always been on the rovince's books, but on which it as never swung a club. Without considering the case of Sarnia particularly, and there are some exceptional circumstan- ces due to the fact it is on the border, there will be few that will say the step isn't one in the right direction, . WHAT ARGUMENT? Mayor Nelson also continues to protest the program proposed by the commission under which it would operate and own the plant with the municipality paying for it on a fee basis As was noted before, if is hard, from this point of view, to see any valid objection to this. There is still the option of the municipality building the plant. But the major reason for the commission being set up was that a great many municipalities could not afford $0 build such essential works, no malter how critical the need. And if the commission is going to pay for and build the plants, it is only common sense it should control them To turn them over to municipal ities "the way some municipal councils in this province act would be folly, derly relative, a man of 102. This aged Scot was shocked to learn of the American's intention to get rid of his estate but eventually he accepted the inevitable. Just as the American was about to depart he said to his neice, '"Maggie where's the wee pres- ent for Wilbur' His neice pro- duced a bag which she handed to the American. The American took it and realised that there was something alive inside it, He explained to the sld man that he couldn't possibly take the pres- ent home. He was overweight as it was and besides the Depart- ment of Agriculture would never permit him to bring in any live- stock. The old man listened seemed to be 1elieved, opened the bag, and a goose flopped out, "We'll hust hae to keep it our- selves, Maggie,"" he said, with a crafty look in his eyes. Last night we went to Consti- tution Hall to hear Miss Joyce Grenfell giving a recital. It was far too vast a hall for Miss Grenfell's intimate kind of a per- formance. But it was well filled and Miss Grenfell, as usual, was very charming and very clever, especially in her hilarious mono- logue based on an American lady giving an illustrated talk on European folk song. MAC'S MUSINGS It is now nearly over That mad shopping rush To be ready for Christmas; The parcels are wrapped In their guady coverings And tied up with tinsel; The Christmas puddings And cakes are all ready For the festive day, And the turkey is safely Laid in the refrigerator Ready for the great fest. But before the feast and The merriment there comes Christmas Sunday to give All good Christian people An opportunity to worship At the feet of the Babe Of Bethlehem who was born To become the Savior Of this sinful world. One cannot truly enjoy The festivity of Christmas Without first showing The spirit of worship For Him whose natal day Is honored next Tuesday, So all our churches Should be filled tomorrow With sincere worshippers Bowing the knee to Him Just before the festival Which yearly marks the day When he came to earth, So as we think of what We will enjoy on Tuesday Let us not forget that We owe an obligation To the Prince of Peace To join in the services And thus prepare our Hearts and minds for Those' gladsome festivities That we have planned for A glorious Christmas Day. lepomu BO nn ne = HISTORY OF OSHAWA -- No.60 -~ Christian Church Was First Congregation Formed Here ' By M. McINTYRE HOOD While the cults of the Millerites ,and the Mormons, to which we have made extended reference in the last two articles wer of a spasmodic nature, they vere deglt with because of their unusual and at times spectacular characteris- tics. Coincident with these re- ligious movements, however, there was a gradual development of organized church groups which made their mark on the com- "munity, and laid foundations for the splendid churches which are to be found in the city of Oshawa today. Which was the first organized Christian congregation to be or- ganized in Oshawa is a matter of dispute. It is recorded that var- fous denominational groups held services of worship in the pioneer homes long before any schools or churches were built. Probably what was the first organized group to hold regular service was what was known as the Christian Church of which the Centre Street United Church of today is the lineal descendant. But about the same time the Weslayan Methodists were also holding services, with itinerant preachers as the unofficial pastors of the flock. The first Weslayan Meth- odist cause came down through the decades in what is now the Simcoe Street United Church, HENRY FAMILY INFLUENCE The Christian Church in Osh- awa owes its origin to one of the early settlers, Elder Thomas Henry, afterwards the Rev. Thomas Henry, and his family. Thomas Henry migrated to Can- ada from Ireland, and after stay- ing for brief periods in New York, Niagara - on - the - Lake, and the town of York (Toronto) he came to Oshawa in 1918 and settled on the lakefront nearby the harbor, on land of which Lakeview Park now occupies a part. About the time he came to the Oshawa lake- front, Thomas Henry came under the influence of 'some travelling missionaries of the Christian Church. He and his family be- came devout members of this re- ligious group, and when he came to Oshawa to live, he gathered around him others of the same faith. At that time the sbttlement spread eastward from the Osh. awa harbor, and meetings were held regularly, conducted by Elder Henry. From time to time other elders, including Elders McIntyre, Church, Goff, Blodgett, Black- more, Shaw and Bailey, visited the Darlington group and inspired its members. ORGANIZED IN 1821 The Christian Church in Dar- lington was officially organized on October 21, 1821. At the same service Elder Thomas Henry was ordained. It is also recorded that the first baptism was solemnized on that day, but there is no record of the name of the child baptized. This was the first congregation of- ficially organized and the first or- dination to be held in the Oshawa district, In August of 1825, the records shew, Elder J. T. Bailey came to the district and preached in a barn on one of the member's farms in Darlington. In the fall of that year, he conducted an exten- sive and pawerful revival on the lakeshore district, and from it there grew what was regarded as one of the best churches in what was then the Home district, Meanwhile, Oshawa, or Skea's Corners as it was then, was be- ginning to grow. Attracted by the eloquent preaching and strong personality of Elder Heaty, many were drawn to the Christian Church. Late in 1825, further im. petus was given to the movement when the first conference of the Christian Church was held in Dar- lington. CHURCH IN OSHAWA In 1831, Elder Thomas Henry organized the Oshawa Christian Church, 'and served as its pastor. Meetings were held for some years in homes and schoolrooms, until in 1843, the first church was built, This church served the needs of the congregation for some 3C years, during most of which time Rev. Mr. Henry was its minister, until he was called to missionary service and other higher duties by the Christian Church. In 1874, the present church on Centre street was built, and the congregation continued to grow, and to mcs! the spiritual needs of a growing number of the people of Oshawa. At the i.e when the church building was undertaken in 1874, the minister was the Rev. Jesse Talton. Unfortunately he was call- ed by death before the structure was completed and dedication services held. The dedication of the church was a great occasion, the ceremonies being conducted by the Rev. D. Warren Hathaway and the Rev. Dr. Nicholas Sum- merville. While the same Dullding still serves the congregation of Centre street today, considerable im- provements have been made down through the years. Centre Street United Church foday, with its beautiful lofty spire still a well- known landmark in the heart of the city, is a monument to those who, along with Elder Thomas Henry, labored to found the Chris- NOTED MINISTERS All through the years since the present church was built, the con- gregation has been served by many worthy ministers, first of the Christian Church, and in the last quarter century of the United Church. Among the best-known of these were Rev. C. J. Felton, Rev. E. Cotton and the Rev. W. P. Fletcher, who is still remembered with love and affection by many of the present membership, Rev. Dr. Fletcher served as minister of the church at two dif- ferent periods. After his gradua- tion from Queen's University in 1895, he was for four years pas- tor of the Oshawa Church. He then labored in other fields for over 25 years, and one of his achievements was the organiza- tion of the Bathurst Street Church in Toronto. He returned to Osh- awa to become minister of the Christian Church here on Decem- ber 1, 1026. It was during this second pastorate that the Chris- tian Church relinquished its sep- arate identity and became part of the United Church of Canada. SHARP DIFFERENCES In the earlier days of the Chris- tian Church, especially in the days of Elder Thomas Henry, re- ligious differences were sharply defined. These were abstruse theological differences, but they were sufficient to 'event the Methodist and esbyterian Churches from extending to the Christian Church "the right hand of fellowship" as it was called, a rite that was supposed to envisage complete spiritual accord. As time went on, however, the trivial nature of these differences was recognized, and the compleet re- conciliation of these church bodies was realized when in the late 1920's, the Christian Church was voluntarily merged with the Unit- ed Church of Canada. At that time, the name of the Oshawa Christian Church was changed to that of the Centre Street United Church, the name under which it is today a flourishing congrega- tion under the ministry of the Rev. A. F. Cowan. Thus, with an organized histo; dating back to October 21, 1821, this church has the longest his- tory of any of the churches now in existence in Oshawa today. The Wesleyan Methodist Church and the first beginnings of the Presbyterian Church in the Osh- awa district were not far behind in point of time. The influx of settlers from England and Scot- land to Canada, and their settle- ment along the Kingston road sec- tion of what is now the city of h were Tr ible for these denominations taking root in the community. These settlers brought with them "the faith -of their fathers", and it was not many years after the Christian Church was organized in 1821 until they, too, had formed their own churches. Each church has its own separate history, and their stories will be told in succeeding articles. (Next Saturday -- The Begin- nings of Methodism.) GALLUP POLL OF CANADA General Approval Is Shown For Labor Unions Today By CANADIAN INSTITUTE of PUBLIC OPINION Labor Unions today are in high favor with the Canadian public. Almost seven in ten think that they have been a good thing for the country as a whole. This is the highest point reported by the Gallup Poll in six years. In the Maritimes and Quebec this ap- proval runs as high as about eight in ten but drops off in On- tario and the Western provinces. Just after the railway strike of 1950, nation-wide approval for Labor Unions dropped to only 59 per cent of the public. Much the same question has been put to a cross-section of the public at recurring intervals by the Gallup Poll. By way of comparison today's attitudes are clocked against those of the Fall of 1952. The question in both studies was this one: "Generally speaking do you think Labor Unions have been a the good thing or a bad thing for Canada?" Fall 1952 Today 60 pct. 69 pet. 15 pet. 12 pet. 10 pet. 8 pet. 15 pet. 11 pet. 100 pet. 100 pet. Good thing Bad thing Qualififed Undecided a per cent among this segment of population approve of their role, as compared to 75 per cent among labor and tradesmen groups. The highest endorsation, naturally, comes from those Ca- nadians who are union members or who belong to a family with a union member in it. Among these citizens 84 per cent say '"a good thing" compared to 65 per cent among the men and nen who have no labor affil- The group of Ci who gave qualified approval did so, in many cases, providing union- ization "was not carried too far", or it was not "controlled by com- munists"'. Others were afraid the unions might get too powerful in the future, while some felt they had already lost their main use- fulness. Farmers are the least convinc- ed that Labor Unions have been a good thing for Canada. Only 59 iations. In Quebec province unions are in very high favor, as in the past, with 81 per cent of the people feeling they have been good for Canada as a whole, This com- pares with 76 per cent in the Maritimes, 64 per cent in On- tario, and 61 per cent in the Western provinces who are of this opinion. World Copyright Reserved BYGONE DAYS 45 YEARS AGO A fine Cingalee performance under the auspices of the Chil- dren's Aid Soclety was witnessed by a capacity audience. Credit for the fine work went to Mr. and Mrs. Chas. Puckett. Among those who participated in the play were Jack Baynes, George McLaughlin, Robert Henderson, Miss Ina Tod, W. Robertson, Miss Erline Moore, Chief Hind, Marshall Soules, and Miss Ethel Kirby. The second annual banquet of Court No. 501, Canadian Order of Foresters, was held in the SOE Hall with delegations from Bow- manville and Raglan present. Dr. T. E. Kaiser presided for the oc- casion. The last meeting of the Board of Education of 1911 was held in the Council Chambers of the Town Hall and Chairman Drew occu- pied the chair. Other members in IN a few short months you can There is a tremendous demand you at home in your spare time needed by industry. 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The last Town Council nleeting of the year was held and among the business matters of the meet- ing was the passing of four by- laws: A by-law issuing debentures to provide funds for the construc- tion of sanitary sewers to the amount of $4515.62; a by-law to raise money for granolithic side- walks to the amount of $4,380.80; a by-law to raise $24,500 for the extension and improvement of the outfall sewer and a by-law to raise $48,154 for asphalt block pavement. The Whitby District Sabbath Monteith, Monteith, Riehl & Co. CHARTERED ACCOUNTANTS RA 5-4662 135 SIMCOE N. J. Waldo Monteith, M.P. - F.C.A, A. Brock Monteith, B.Comm., C.A. George E. Trethewey, Robert F. Lightfoot, C.A. Gordon W. Riehl, C.A. Res. Partner - RA 5-4478 School Institute held a get- together in Zion Church with an excellent program under the chairmanship of Rev. M. E. Sex- smith of that district. Rev. F, A. Fare of Toronto and Rev. D, E. Johnston of Pickering District as- sisted to make the meeting a suc- cess. 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