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OSHAWA AND DISTRICT Hold Emergency Meeting An emergency meeting of Post 43 of the Canadian Legion is called for tomorrow night and all members are asked to attend. The meeting will start at 7.30 o'clock sharp, Club Will Entertain The Oshawa Club will hold its usual Wednesday evening program in the form of a musical- night and some fine local talent has been lined up. S. G.Carnell and his troupe will be on the program and this alone will make it worth while for many citizens to turn out and enjoy sev- eral hours of wholesome entertain- ment. The club plans many of these special occasions this year and to- morrow night's offering will just be ole of the many that will be afford- ed. Lend-a-Hand.Club Meets Lend-a-Hand Club hedl its regu- lar monthly meeting last evening at the home of Mrs. Schwartz, Oak street, with Mrs. M. Shaw, the pres- ident, occupying the chair. After the regular business was disposed or refreshments were served by Mrs, Schwartz and Miss Clara Schwartz, and a social hour was spent. 'T'he For Better Values DIAMONDS Burns' Jewelry Store 23 SIMCOE 8, PHONE 889 Cash or Terms -- "Radio Electric 15 Prince St. Pheae 2477 S. COWELL, Prop. Beach Ranges Hurley Washers Rstimate given on wiring jobs. Radio parts and sets in stock, Full line of fixtures in stock. For Yow PHONE 22 oi ver Thompsons Drug Store 10 Simcoe Bt, 8, We Deliver A "Ba ¥ 18 SIMCOE STREET E li; ll 3 I a 3 Received The Latest Styles in, White Gold and Shell Frames Ask to See Them Jury & Lovell Optical' Parlors Phone 28 or 20 Tee CC ET es TOC RCT ITT ET rT TET avenue, on December 5th. Cars Collide Slight damage was done it at Richmond yesterday afternoon. was not damaged. SUBURBAN AREA (Continued from Page 1) suburbs. Further, pay, each consumer pumping and filtration plant. Thus, if any service to sion, scheme, in Chairman words, 'will be very, very high", but the deputation which appeared before the Board last night seemed the commissioners felt they could offer, As estimated by City Engineer Smith and subject to revision on more careful preparation, extensions | of mains into the township will av- | erage about $2.26 a foot frontage of lots served, of $90 for a 40 foot lot, That charge is based on the presumption that lots would be op: posite to each other as the town- ship mains are extended. The principle adopted by the Board of Water Commissioners will be embodied in a report to be pre- pared jointly by City Engineer Smith and Chairman G. D, Conant, Mr. Smith will cover the engineering and economic side of the matter. while Mr, Conant will put the docu- ment in shape from a legal siand- point, His services in this regard were offered voluntarily and accept- ed by the Boara, _ Sharp Criticism, Real estate "exploiters'" were roundly criticised Hy Commissioner G. W. McLaughlin during the course of the meeting, On August 12, Mr. McLaughlin moved that the Board adopt as a policy that no extensions of city water mains would be made into the township. Seconded gy Mayor Preston, the motfon carried unanimously, At last nigat's meeting, however, Mr, Mclaughlin expressed his belief that the city could not ignore peo: ple actually living in the subiirbs, some of whom have been unable to get water even after sinking wells, For these he felt sympathy. "I will say frankly to Mr, Car- negie," he said addressing one of the deputation whe declared that he had built twelve houses at a total cost of $60,000 and was now unable to dispose of the properties, BEWARE THE GOUGH O GOLD THAT HANGS ON Persistent coughs and colds lead to gerious trouble, You can stop them now with Creomulsion, an emulsified creosote that is pleasant to take, Creomulsion is a pew medical discovery with two-fold action, §t soothes and heals the inflamed mem- branes and inhibits germ growth. Of all known drugs, creosote is i by high medical authorities as one of the greatest healing agencies for persisten$ coughs and colds and other forms of throat troubles, Creomulsion contains, in addition to creosote, other healing elements which and stop the irritation and i i while the creosote goes on to the stomach, iis absorbed into the blood, attacks the sea of the trouble and checks the growth of the , Ask your Co., Limited, "Toron OBIE ToRLoNG 6 SPECIALISTS IN MINING SECURITIES LISTED AND UNLISTED HEAD OFFICE: REFORD BUILDING next meeting will be held at the home of Mrs. Mary Shaw, Gliddon to a car owned by Mr. Ed. Curtain, 39 Elgin street east, when gnother car ran into and Simcoe streets, The other car MAY SECURE WATER new arrangement, if adopted, the commission may charge two, three or even more times the city rate. Subject, of course, to the general principles of equity. But there will be no more fixed water rates to the must at the time of water service being supplied, a certain amount in cash which will be that consumer's share of the capital cost of 'the the township should be cut off after installation, the city itself would mot have to bear capital burden of that exten- Rates for the township under this Conant's quite unwilling to accept whatever EE THE OSHAWA DAILY TIMES. TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1927 "that 1 have no sympathy for him larged, and ils cost to the cily was or any other individuals or associa- tions engaged in real estate ex- ploitation. "They came here and subdivided | land outside of the city. apparently expecting extension of city services on demand, and without the author- ities considering older citizens with- in the municipal limits who might at last be in a position to cash in on their city properties. "If they wanted to build outside the city, there was nothing to pre- vent their coming before the proper bodies and ascertaining what the city's policy might be with regard to service extemsions. Tune, to 'ay knowledge, have appeared before this body. "They have, therefore, no griev- ance. They engaged in a business venture and have no cause to whine now." Reeve Warren . Dearborn and Messrs, Ross and Warten cague from last night's meeting of the East Whtiby Township Council meeting to appeal to the Oshawa Board of Water Commissioners for extension of city mains into the suburban area, Township Delegation Reeve Dearborn stated tho case briefly, pointing out the gravity of the situation as afféctinz 'certain new residents, and asking relief. Mr. Ross and Mr. Warren followed Mr. Deargorn's lead but pointad out that more than one district was in need of relief Chairman Conant, in reply, stat- ed that there was no use disguising the fact that thé& situation in the outlying districts presents a problem that must be dealt with. Mr. Carnegie made a special plea regarding his building of 12 Louses at a costmof $60,000, and declared that residents would be willing to pay up to three times the city rate for water if they could get it. Mayor ° Preston stated that he 'auite appreciated Mr, Carnegie's position, " "However," he declared, "my telephone has been busy tonight with old citizens calling up to pro test against further extensions into the county in view of the fact that they have held land here for years. paid the higher taxes, but now when they have a chance to subdivide they are faced with competition which they are unable to meet. "On comparing city and township taxation, it should be remembered that a man could have held a 50 acre farm adjoining the city jimhts for the same cost in taxes that a resident and property owner of the city would have had to pay to keep two acres." 1 ew. Reeve Dearborn askeG: "Don't you think the suburban districts will soon come into the city" Mayor Preston replied thot *'an- nexation is a big question and must be looked into from several angles. "We are here to legislate for the city of Oshawa," his worship de- clared, "for the people of Oshawa who have heen paying taxes for many years." Mr. Carnegie raised the point that those living outside but close to the city spend a great deal of money in the city, "Merely to consider it in that light," Mayor Preston declared, "would he unwise. It is a poor in- vestment that a city makes which retards development in that city, Oshawa Gets Skim Milk "The city must consider the ques- tion of taxes. These people living outside but near Oshawa pay their taxes to East Whitby, East Whitby gets the cream and Oshawa gets the swimmed milk" Chairman Conant then spoke at length summing up the problem: "I have been cousidering this prob- lem as you gentlemen spoke," Mr. Conant stated, "and it appears to me that if we grant extensions of water services into the county we are embarking on a policy of prac- tically unlimited expansion, "Such a policy at once becomes one of financial consideration. Our pumping plant has just about reach- ed the limit of its capacity. We have. in fact, just authorized chang- es in equipment to fincrdase our capacity. Great capacity would mean more filter units which are in- stalled in batteries of four at a cost of $15.000 each, la total of $60.000 required for the next group. The intake system would have to be en- Card of Thanks Mr. and Mrs. Samuel McKnight, 122 Gibbons street, desire to thank their friends for their kind expres- sions of sympathy and floral trib- utes, during the illness and death of their infant son, Archibald Mec- Knight, (1022) In Memoriam HENDERSON--In loving memory of Andrew Henderson, who died October 30th, 1926. Ever remembered by The Family. FOR SALE--SIX ROOM HOUSE IN good location. All conveni $102,000. ' "These are assets which were created by the city of Oshawa, by its older citizens. Extensions into the township, unless the financial consideration can be worked out, | would not be covered by charging | twa, three, four or even ten rates | for water. matter how permanent prosperous conditions may seem now, and in that @vent it would be Oshawa that would have to bear the burden of an overextended water system. "The ratepayers of Oshaw@a can't be burdened with matters that in law and reason are township bur- dens. "Further, 1 would suggest that if the township wants {0 co-operate in extending waten mains to the sul- urban areas, it should also consider the matter of sewer extension with which, in my opinion, the question of water is linked.' Commissioner Ross declared that he agreed with Mr. Conant's re- marks and felt that the citizens who to prior consideration. Commissioner Fowlds, declared that Oshawa was concerned the examples of cities such as To- ronto and Hamilton which supply water to outlying districts, Shack Town Reeve Dearborn declared: "If city, then deny your immediate suly- urbs water services." for a shack, would you Warren?" Commissioner McLaughlin asked with a smile, Mr. opinion on the matter, "We must consider of civic liability," he pointed out, "which falls under two heads. One is finance, the other is health. We must also admit that we can't co- erce people to build in certain plac- es, or to follow a predetermined line of development, "Yet it is unsound practice to ex tend without knowing where we are going or what the probable de- velopment may be. That was what hurt the west, Services were exten: ded out heyond municipal limits and when booms collapsed the tax- payers had den." Mr, McLaughlin then declared that he had ne sympathy with real estate "exploiters'"" who may have taken toe much for granted in lay: ing out suburban subdivisions, "However," he continued, 'there is a great deal of good building im, mediately outside the city. The question is whether we can get wa- ter to them on an engineering and economic basis "Our policy should coincide with that of the Council, and it should ge one_that would impose no bur- den on or hereafter, "While we know that these ex- tensions have got to come some- time, it is also bad husiness to re verse a policy already determined upon too rapidly. Our policy should be parmanent and impose no bur- den on the ratepayers which they should not, in equity, be called up- on to bear." City Engineer Smith then presen: ficulty which is charging water con- sumers not only for installation, but an additional amount represent- ing per capita share of the city's capital investment in the pumping plant. Then, by leaving the price for urban rate woud he subject to change at anytime, the suburban consumers would alse bear their ghare of further capital outlay! for enlargement of the city's plant, Mr. Smith's suggestions were adopted subject to a more complete report and legal study and opinion. er that report at which time the East Writby would be asked to aty tend for a conference. "We might fall on evil days, no | have built up Oshawa are entitled | from a health standpoint, and cited you want a shack town about your "You would not grant a permit | McLaughlin then gave his | the niatter to shoulder the bur- | city taxpayers either now | ted his tentative solution of the dif- | water at the discretion of the Com- | mission, which means that the sub- | A meeting will be called to consid- | 'WAMPOLE'S TASTELESS EXTRACT "OF COD LIVER ge ew sn, coy smn diseases, such us Grippe, Ii " Coughs, Colds, Diptheria, Fevers, Etc. $4,500. Cash $700. W. D. Peebles, 9 Bond East. Phone 869. (102¢) of Cod Liver also affords p for pale, sickly, listless, ute walk to-G. M. C. Price $3,200. FOUR ROOM COTTAGE, FIVE MIN- petite, help overcome restore @ healthy color to lips and cheeks. ~ Price» » $100, Enough to Last a Whole Day's Enthusiastic Selling TOWELS 39c ON SALE WEDNESDAY 65 Dozen Bath Towels however, Imported direct from English and Canadian Mills. Priced at mill cost as the one big business stimulator for the mid- week Bargain Day. No question about it, at all, These Towels are the biggest and best we ever offered you for the money. See them in the window today. Cream with colored striped centres; white with fancy colored embossed ends; white with colored striped ends; plain white with hemmed ends. | ARE WOMEN DRIVERS | GREATER RISK THAN MEN? \ London, Oct, 29.--The question whe- ther women are more dangerous driv- ers than men has been much discus- sed lately. It is interesting to find that several of the leading insurance | companies are inclined to penalize wo- men as iar as accident insurance poli- cies are concerned, i The Manchester Guardian relates | that a man whose daughter had just | Lought a motor-cyele decided to take out an accident policy for her, as she { had only taken out a third-party policy | for her machine. After she had filled | in the usual form he took it to a cer- | tain well-known company and paid the { premium, When the policy arrived a few weeks later it was found that several clauses giving the company | extra protection had been added. As | the girl in question was an experienc- | ed motorist who had never had an accident a protest was made, The answer was: "They are really very | good terms. We try to_avoid insur- | ing women against accidents if we possibly can, and if our representative | had not made a mistake in thinking | that the policy was for a man on your bringing it in we probably should not | have accepted it at all" Il V. A. Henry, Insur- ance and Loans 113% SIMCOE ST, 8S, Phones: 11908W--Office 18:58) --Residence UPHOLSTERING of all kinds, Workmanship Guaranteed G. A. CONSTABLE 74 Mechanic St. Phone 1505J Come On, olks---Get Some of the Bargains! Nelson & Bell Are Absolutely Selling Out Everything must be sold, as we must vacate the store in a short time. See the Cotton Goods at 29¢ yard Foulards, Galateas, Indian Head, Middy Twill, Polly Prim Prints, Kiddiana Cloth, Cotton Broadcloths, Cotton Delaines, etc. Values to 75¢ yard, Sale price, yard ok gd | i BEST HOSIERY, ALL FIRST QUALITY, AT REAL BARGAIN PRICES. Nelson & Bell Phone 2532 9 Simcoe St. South 3s a -- heh tL i -- One and T wo eneral Motors. Careful Restrictions, Astonis Prices and Very Easy rT -------- from G Charmi ng Homesites Blocks hingly Low Terms IR R34 ET Fd nike if F] 4 §- : { nan Ang TEE tonne § 1% LHW ! 3 8 phibaon = 971} to "" PIRI ie 3 4 is J oO Ji bus agin am Sgt ALOE £% odd ner REY ry Wha [GON J 1 »i vinnuih wt How or gsziod L200 ' in ten ' diuoy tani aaslq rer - a Aes Cash $300. W. D. Peebles, 9 Bond East. Phone 869, (102¢) ALL KINDS OF SECOND HAND lumber, doors, windows, new doors, new windows, French doors, new sash, water pipes, sewer pipes, new cupboard doors. Sold at reasomable prices. Opposite 81 Ontario St. (102b-106) YOUNG RENEWED COW WANTED. Phone 507. 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