S fibmarg 2.5 *IJ 1 : Still "Under Table" I % Forces Admussmn From isePérattcis$hoo:'s this year. Emt * | "Certainly there will be grants Minister .°{ Education \ for rural separate schools-----f" Mtr. Thaf Revnsed Schedule : gepburn t""as gnswering. when the onservatives be i Had Been Shelved | desks. gainio bound itheir wea__ill2zz _ | d"B;sedPon }helr needs," conclud-- Fr C o s 'ed the Premier, "but their needs Mini:::r lc:;m.Ed?:' t"" J. Simpson, ;'wi'll not be so great." lor('(;d' t'a ion, there was _ "You created the impression in the Legislature yesterday among the people of East Hastings, the admission that the revised ;)ir y lnic(llucela theMelecu;rs to be-- schedule of school grants whi lieve," sa r. acaulay, "that had been tabled b\"hi'r':lu:ththrtl"')?;l(}, | there would be no further need for session had been shelved, and that grants with the new act in force." his department was still operating Mr. Hepburn sat silent. gnder};ho grnx?(;' policy of the for-- Grants Questioned. mer enry ministration, -- "th hi under--the--table" method, as rf'Pt'a)t? schifoly::p;;:t;:m&e llcl:ngtrisgptara:e cd.';" labelled by P'l"t'mi('l' Hepburn, the support of ihelr own s::lh:ol: In Oth'("' words," cracked Leopold why are you still going to give Macaulay (Cons., South York), who them grants?" demanded Mr. M forced the admission, "the separate raulay. When no reply was iort:: schools are going to get their grants coming, he said:--"Because you just as they always have, and in realize, as we of the former Govern-- addition they are going to get in-- ment realized, that grants were re-- creased revenue under your Assess-- quired in mal'1y special ciases. 'That :g;r.\'t Act amendments of a year ;vtaswfhl;:h"unfier thle table" method While Conservative benchers ap-- accused us.}"") so long and qustily plauded and laughed loudly, Mr. Hon. Dr. Simpson rose at this ?:::' ai'!"',;'{a}'fii(': isuh::r;::.;: '"T'"' prob-- |juncture to confess that the Gov-- 8 ly Jus at it started (e'rnment.flto?:y. was operatir'ng "un-- 1 er exactly the same grants" as the out to not a mere problem be-- Henry administration. Mr. Macau-- tween rural and urban peoples as 1 3 latlv the Prime Minister has stressed, ay immediatly wanted to know but a financial problem bulking v;hat hadi happened to the regula-- large in the school life of Ontario." tions which Dr. Simpson brought down last session, and which ef-- Scores Tactics. fected changes in the grants. Scoring the Government tactics "We reverted to the old system, on the school tax question in the &and did not use them," Dr. Simpson [recent East Hastings by--election, admitted. | Mr. Macaulay said that today that "Who's under the table now?" ' |issue was even a greater issue than clicked Mr. Macaulay, while the | Mr. Hepburn realized it to be after' Tories applauded. I the East Hastings ballots had been "There is nothing under the table | counted. "The Prime Minister has now," Dr. Simpson said. said glibly that all the fight was "But you laid the new regulations over some $200 that would be di-- on the table last session," said Mr. verted from the public school to the Macaulay. separate school in Tweed. Thank "'The new system will come into God, the people of East Hastings effect sooner or later," said Dr. knew better than that--realized Simpson. l that a question of principle was at "It's the first time we were aware | stake and cast their ballots accord-- you were operating under the old | ingly. The Government does not grants system," said Mr. Macaulay. | . appear to be in any hurry to bring _ _"You could have found out if you on the by--election in North Wel-- had asked," said Dr. Simpson. ' lington, and no wonder. "I think the fair thing would have | _ _"But in Esast Hastings the late been to let us know that you had Jim Hill was scarcely cold in his abandoned your new grants," said | 'grave before that election was on. Mr. Macaulay. | Let me say that if East Hastings PDr. Simpson made no reply, gave the Prime Minister the jit-- and -- Conservative back--benchers | ters, I don't know what North Wel-- chuckled audibly. lington will give him." "I don't know what you're laugh-- _ Harry Johnson, the Liberal or-- | ing at," Premier HMHepburn injected 'ganizer, he claimed, was up in that ( into the argument. The old regula-- riding "gumshoeing around," trying \ tions wer: being used, he said, un-- to find a candidate who could be| --til the act was well under way. depended to hold the Conservatives Then a stuady would be made, to de-- to no more than a majority of a termine final policy. "As I say," he thousand. Was it true, he asked,| _ added, "I don't know what you're that the Premier would not go to laughing a:." the country in a general appeal, this| | "If my f:iends want to laugh at year? the predicament into which you've "I don't know," Mr. Hepburn got yourse'f," gibed Mr. Macaulay, flared, "if 1 am under any obliga-- | "I really d n't blame them." tion to my honorable friend to ; answer that question. T'll let him | know in good time." l "When do you want an election ?" Provincial Secretary Nixon inter-- ; posed. ' "Any time will suit us from now on," Mr. Macaulay threw back. f Newspaper Support. Mr. Macaulay could not under-- stand, he said, what had prompted the Government to frame the legis-- ;net'i:asn it htad. The only Toronto paper to support its action had | been the Star, and then the chmg'e: | in the act it had espoused had been | ' very moderate ones compared to' what eventually had been enacted ' He didn't know where The Globe and Mail stood on the question, he said, but for a good many years every one had known where the old Globe was. Turning quickly to the |Premier, Mr. Macaulay asked him