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4 thejribuxe thursday november 23 117c -n-5s1- rss pkih a j barre beacockj fe4tgsjsusessoffcg mi o pt cm plowra 1- tat m mmcrlphaas uj iwr yrja cauda smumtuwftcrarmar o adtt aaraav ocjrclatlaa aivwmbpickwto9 nmtadwtimr brampton gmrambaruabtaa post elomcok 0xtflimamg z ecaaomjst aad sin nmurktvaorara eraoakvlua bunt oduwathlt wa and uuausa ni3g seen as issue in local mayoralty campaign she has leadership ability that incumbent gordon ratcliff is lacking and she says she is a fighter and will use this to promote the towns interests at the regional level it is true that mrs joice often has taken a stand and stuck by her guns while other members of council waffled on various issues y this she deserves credit however as mrs joice has also noted she often has ehdedon the short end of the stick in council debateswith the other members voting against her position amark of leadership we feel would be the ability to marshall facts to persuade other councillors the current mayoralty campaign it seems is being fought i on the issues of leadership and regional representation mayoralty candidate cathy joice claims business group deserves support c qaf ter a pef iod without ariy representation the stouffville merchants have again formed an association the immediate goal of ebrganizauonis i v1 j to represent the businesscommunityinthe while it certainly is necessary to make updomjng centennial yearjand ensure mat ones voice heard at york regionfrom our jocal merchants will take ah active parvin observations those who have fought stridently 5 uhose festivities v on various issues at regional council usually wetafe optimistic theassociation will have done soto their own detriment it has not expand its activities and eventually tackle been uncommon to seearepresoitativels 1 jj revenge perhaps another mfhoo of sbttinsifaunigtpalr v v sugar and spice we are all immigrants herein canada 1 by bill smiley that the downtown area remainaviableand v competitivejshopping district and the been in employingthat technique s i got talking toachap at the curling club r of the other evening he seemed a pleasant is of sort of bloke and r m we boughfeachqtheradrink mynamesjake jake sloan he in- tribune d do evervtwne mssible to w bbtk th a troducedhimself i- reciprocated somehow itidune pieagesto aoeyerytning possible to regional councils and can get his views across the conversation rnn m r aid this organization 7 30 years ago this week without confrontation we feel mf ratcliff has ably represented this municipality and forthis reason we support his bidfor reelection l however we urge all voters to attend the candidates meeting scheduled this saturday nighf nov 27 8 pm at the high school listen theconversation got around to canadas immigration policy which seems to be disturbing aigood many people these days i asked him what he thought of it all oh i got nothing against immigrants he said expansively the country needs s them i asked him why y well we gottahave chinese and greeks yes v vand we need the japanese for market u gardeners and the eyetalians for con struction workand runningthe fruit stores is that all well we s need a lottahunkies for the heavy work like you know mines arid longshoremen and all that you have no- prejudices then about allowing people into this country i queried absolutely none he replied firmly we gotta have them west indians so as people in toronto can have domestic servants educationvaridrbne cemetery commissioner wereall accordedacclamation at a well fat- tended nomination meeting in stouffville on friday evening following the nomination thoiir 730 to 830 oclock a public meeting was held which lasted until after ten oclock igeov storey returning officer acted as chairman 1 v- barber strike f ij j- h in torontoa few days ago wemet a ihan jrom the united states and after a friendly chat hesaid do you like myhaircut i from a large town in the central stateswherethe men residents falmost to aman are on strike againstyhe v localbarbering establishments the price of hair cuts with the ceiling just liftedjumped to tl and whole streets organized to cut their v own hair we had to admit that somebody did a very good job on the head of our visitor since he appeared quite normal in ap- peararice v r i he reported that he did not know how long the strike againstbarbers would last whether the mehwould stop cutting each others hair fgrow pigtails or use a lawn mower to do the cutting v i tone thing he seemed sure about was that he would never pay a dollar per hair cut jwhen we informed him that in stouffville he icouldget the operation done for just 35 cents ihersaid in his yankee drawl wall- now j woulduketoliveinyourtownt dear sir after reading last weeks tribune i am l convinced that your reporter had not done his homework asregards toboth the editorial and the article about the bell telephone survey as far as uie editorial is concerned every remark he made about low cost housing and mrclouters submitted plans were wrong first mr clouteras far as i remember also wants to mix low cost and hightercost homes in one subdivision and as amatter of fact did speaks has surely proved themselves able to build a good quality subdivision and have also given- as required more parkland than necessarya fire tank truck and 50000 for the ballantraecommunitycentrei cant recall reading what g the other subdivisions have donated or paid to council for lot fees etc t the bell telephone survey meeting at council last tuesday was so completely dif ferent as reported in your paper than what actually happaied i couldnt believe your so in ballantrae he also wants large sized lots report said- councirurianimously voted in l l jlw uli j favour yes they did but only after mrs joice madea motion fb there to speak and much discussion was heard you musfrealize that if thecitizerishad notap peared it was unlikely that council would have voted in favour mrs joice might just as well i have not been there as far as your account lets be fair and give accurate reports please yours truly lillian b goff t to be built on cheaper land not suitable for farming you must realize that r any land adjoining stouffvillehas mostly been bought up by developers and therefore is out of the question price wise as for being too far from tstouffvilleandpeople needing two cars is one half mile too far i think that was one of the plans submitted tocouncil and secondly the people whocould mostbenefit from such a plan ie the people residing in second class nomes in and around musselmans lake already have this problem and seem to manage quite well the idea behind mr clouters reasoning i presume was to build homes for people now renting in stouffville- whitchurch area and to build them in such a way that they could be added on to later on if required the company for which mr clouter i ployment than the restof the municipality often cited as one of the major reasons for this high unemployment is the inability of many of the residents there to obtain transportation to centres where jobs are available rs the lake area is also a community rather than just a subdivision and has many con veniences that would not je found in a sub division these include grocery stores restaurants and a community centre residents of the lake area are not stranded in ah isolated spotbut arepartbf ahamlet size community v your comments about parkland and other donations are entirely irrelevant as already stated mr clouter is not speaking forthe company that developed the ballahtrae subdivisions how about indians i asked well i kinda feel sorry for them they were here firstbut now theyre all drunkor- on welfare or both actually i meant people i jridiav and pakistan oh theni well ill tell ya a little bitta them goes a long ways theyre all toowell- educated they come here with nothing and first thing you know theyre doctors and teachers and all like that and taking jobs from our own people and thinking theyre as good as we are jjr how do you feel about europeans waddayamean well you know french hungarians j poles czechsyugohslavs- i vtvyl i oh now wait a minute we got enough f frogs already in this country and themi others theyre too smart they come out here on a shoestring and before you know it they own 200 acres of prime tobacco land or they turn into architects or they own a shoe facfi tory and boss a whole lotof real canadians around you havent mentioned the germans we have a lot of them i ya the krauts are ok theyre dean and theyre good workers but you know what happens eh they save their money and first thing you know theyve bought a summer cottagi the 1 then tov steady flowof immigrantsffomthe uk englishrwelshscotsirish j wopden go ttatfarjithyliiheys are sbrfa hoitytoity like they gotaplum in theirmouthrthe welsh can sing but uieylrev crazy the micks areeithercatholics or drunks both and thes jocks j pushy peasants with ah accent that would cufdlev countdown stouffville centennial 1877197 s early reeves the centennial is coming i james underhill followed joseph a todd v v t as reeve in 1903 it is recorded that mr un three men on horseback will ride through derhill made a rousing address at the first town saturday dec 18 carrying a scroll council meeting advocating street lighting a announcing- the oncoming centennial year paved main st more water from the celebrations they will act as towncriers municipal system queen contest f v iz io k ti centennial queen- pageant will be held mendations wascarned out and street lights uckets nsa perso submitted to cen- secretaryiibox 1036 a5ow than dec queen iss bylaws werepassed forbidding thending vcontestants must live in the municipality be blcycleson letting off single and between the ages of 16 and 25 nviran thrfislreets reeve underhill talent and personality as well as beauty will all beconsidered j vv t cleanup v depot has offered to e village during the fmmaa shoemerchant m part of what is i month of mayvthe object will be to dear the cams hardwarein later years he and iutter from the streets and boulevardsithere eswse retired to torontothdr only ionwascis talk a week will be designated to encourage xeltwiddy- knovnvprofessor underhill of homeowners to spruce up and paint their own toronto university v who spoke in favour of extending the local calling service s your statement that mrs joice might just as well have not been there as far as our account is inaccurate as we did mention that mrs joice seconded the motion to approve j the fact that mrs joice made the motion r to let the citizens speak was irrour opinion i not particularly noteworthy in our perience council has never refused to hear a r group of ratepayers whether theywere6n the agenda or riot it is reasonable to conclude that if mrs joice hadnt made the motion somebody else would ha ve v w a- newspaper reporter does not make a transcript of a meeting but writes a summary if every word spoken ateverymeetingwere printed there would be no room for anything else in the paper there would also be no readers as the resultant stories would be excruciatingly boring t we might respectfully suggest that mrs goff has not done her homework and that her letter is neither fair nor accurate search fornudfprrned ed reply we stand by both our editorial and oiu news story on the bdl survey a youiare in error irilreferring tomr cloutersprevipusly submitted plans for low cost housing because his last presentation the one dealt with invthe editorial was not a f specific plan v t mr clouter asked for a hew category in the official plan and his presentation was not directly related to his earlier proposals i forthe record the last time mr clouter appeared before planning board with a proposal for the property in question owned by gino testa he had at that time come to the conclusionthat what the town really needed was not low cost homes but expensive homes that would generate a large assessment there is no way you can point to the subdivisions in ballantrae as an example of the type of work mr clouter would do in other developments l we recently spoke to mike fdcher one of the principals of fdray investments and he made it abundantly clear that mr clouter in presenting these other poposalswas in no way representing the company he emphasized the fact that mr clouter is an employee of the company arid nothing more than that v i i we already explain our position on the cot tooustiness ot oest sizes smaller serviced lots- would held j how about theportuguese rather desperatdyortheafabs well now the portuguese tend to crowd together inthe cities theyd beokif we hadr a sardine industry or lotsa olive treesbut wej aint a few athem arabs might be awrighti if they brought somelof their 6u money yirtth themii wooden mine being ariarab you know herepuriching me jovially with anft elbow thfmbrf6ur 1 h x homes ir r v lot sizes smallerjsenriced lots- would help bring down the cost ofthe homes and because of the reduced costs of services the homes would not become a burden on other tax- payers v your point about land around stouffville mostly being bought by devdopers is a good onerthe land we are talking about is in fact owned bya devdopcrkjirio testa the proposal was turned down by the now defunct regional area servicesthat body investigated the i site v and recommended v against italso thefcwas a feeling that with it so close to stouffville it would be impossible to stop the former village from sprawling in that clirecuoh iw fyour comment that thepebple around musselmans lake manage quite well is not entirdytrue the area has been plagued for years with a- much higher rate ofunemv j dear sir- i t- the lady searching for the epileptic deaf t white cat upsets methis small world in which we live has so many starving ill unhoused citizens many of whom are helpless children that to spend large amounts of money on an ill animal malformed since birth is at best foolishness if not madness to hdp her seems pointless v rw tearefarmoreusefulfwaystd fill ones time and spend ones money akfsincerely r- l betty amador ffil stoufferscs- a v-j- svrvl iaj xostoaffvflie ps1 knowwhere there is a retarded deaf white cat but thatsmy secret- f you certainly seem to have an open mind immigration suggestedbut- if you were i to become t minister of-im- i migration to whom would you really open your afmssouui americans perhaps v i no way tliem spies are alwayshaving revolutions and such and half them cant t speak any english no id like to see us thrown wide open to australians theyre pretty mouthy but theyre good drinkers like canadians and besides theyre so far away we wooden get many fit them ishudderedr ol he said showing that he was in touchwith world affairs vld welcome a whole slew of them rhodesiansif they hafta getouta their own country- theyre white good workers and they knowhow to keep the blacks in their placejust to make sure they didnt take a lot of good canadian jobs- he f chortled we could send them up to the v mackenzie river area to sort but the indians f and eskimoes- j i a it was getting on i asked jake7 from a combination of curiosity and politenesswhat his own ethnic background was as i couldnt even imagine it- x il a- koh 1m apure v v father was polish and he married my grandmother who washalf scotchhalf in- dianmyole man changed our name from slovlnski to sloan swere j thirdgeneration gmadiani- 201 went home and washed out myoreta with soap and water and wondered for riot j the first time at my fdlow canadians a