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fgt 12 the stowfyuie tribune until uwrf ww civil defence costs in 1959 only cigarette money says morley halfpast teen by a 25 to 13 vote ontario county council last week in structed a committee to make a complete study of the prob lem of civil defense as related to the joint civil defense com mittee councillors refused how- ver to endorse a motion call ing for rescinding a resolution of december 22 1959 which au thorized the withdrawal of the county from the joint commit tee as matters now stand the countys notice of withdrawal is still in the hands of oshawa authorities the county is re considering its position the outcome of the study could convince councillors to change their minds about with drawing before the march 31 deadline but unless they change their minds the county will withdraw following a notice of motion presented on wednesday reeve cyril morley of pickering vill age introduced the motion that touched off an afternoonlong debate in the council chambers in whitby on thursday would rescind his motion asked that the re solution of dec 22 calling for the countys withdrawal from the joint cd committee be res cinded and a committee make a study and full report to coun ty council speaking to his motion reeve morley said we are perhaps dissatisfied with the operation of civil defense do not mean loealiv the dissatisfaction com to withdraw passed on decern- i dont think it is possible to ber 22 had come through so fast that most of us did not re alize what it was about life insurance but to me he said civil defense is like life insurance you hate paying the premium mences at the senior levels of i but in some circumstances it government and comes on down wnes in handy deputyreeve mrs mary reid but we must realize that they i of aja who introduced the mo- are dealing wtth a rapidly chan- uj vvitmraw at the de gng problem he said when meeti sau lhat afer cd was first mentioned the pe- y on countv nod of warning was weeks fat- dvj drfense commikee t still er it became days and now it maintaln there u n0 program is only hours the proper plan u fave vohfines on what we for today could be obsolete be- shouw have but dvfl detenic u fore the day is over ue are i ot hat mrt ot su perhaps over critical of those port our coordinator cant get other communities to organize we are paring into an organiza- the cost of civil defense to j tion with a nonexistent pro- who are trying to devise some means of defense in the event of a nuclear attack the county in 1939 he said was 2500 this he said represents 327 cents on every 1000 of as sessment or an annual cost to the average ratepayer of less than the price of a pack of cig- areis he urged a complete investi gation and study of civil de fense in the county and a full report to the council gram spent s20000 talking of insurance prem iums and small amounts of money she continued during the past two years we have budgeted a total of s20000 for civil defense we have paid a man 6000 per year each of those years and paid out another s3500 for secretarial help we reeve james j gibson of are not paying it all here in the port perry said that the motion county but it is wasted money organize an effective civil de fense organization in this coun ty the coordinator cannot do it if he does not get the support and cooperation of the people in all the communities if i felt we were accomplishing anything i would support the program she said oshawa is a city with a con centrated population she said and has a different problem and different solution i think in local government if we hire a man for 6000 we expect him to do a job in this county we have a man who gets s6000 and he does a lot more answering to this council than col wotton until someone comes up with a program we should forget civil defense co days notice explaining her motion of de cember 22 mrs reid noted that the cd agreement with oshawa stipulates that one party if it wishes to withdraw must give 60 days notice if that notice is not filed with oshawa cd au thorities in time she said the county would be in the joint cd committee for another year the money used for civil de fense she said comes from someones pocket even if it did all food prices effective jan 282930 wer1 the right to quantities starts mon feb 1st ckvrtv channel 3 barrie ii to 1 1 30 am its i fun ddies iveeta stokelys fancy save 11c tomato juiced 49 green giant medium save ic f 15oi tins fancy peas save sc ega beef stew z good morning save 6c 15oz tins frozen food special pork or veal polar king ch0plets shirriffs marmalade 45 2 8 p 85 ruby red at their peak in flavour florida grapefruit qood size tender garden fresh us no 1 grade brussel sprouts 2 lbs 33c predressed grade a frying or roasting 2v2 3 lb average chickens lb royal guest small link pure pork sausage ib 39 iga foodliner stouffville ontario not all come out of the county levy if we take the money we should be conscientious in the way we spend it not getting value i would challenge anyone to show me what has been done we are not getting value for our money she said reeve john mcgillivray of scott twp told council he ag reed entirely with mrs reids position reeve sherman scott of pic kering twp said that he agreed in part with both mrs reid and reeve morley the fault he said lies partly with the senior governments in that they had not given direction to the coord inator in order that he could establish a program if the provincial or federal government comes up with a program he said some consid eration should be given by coun cil he introduced an amend ment to reeve morleys motion that a special committee make a study of civil defense and re port to council his amendment also called for rescinding the december motion to withdraw reeve rae ferguson of the town of uxbridge observed when the time comes that we need civil defense there will be no time to organize i am in fa vor of continuing with civil de fense i heartily agree with the steps mrs reid has taken said reeve erwin sowie of mara twp i wonder where the mon ey that makes up grants comes from in case of an emergency he said we in the north would more or less be the dumping ground for the heavily popu lated areas i dont think we should support it we built a dew line and now it is discarded it is the same with civil defense i cant see or support it he said the council then went into a committee of the whole would dissolve deputyreeve mrs reid intro duced an amendment to the furnaces oil gas coal dealer for pease iron fireman vacuum cleaning burner service sheet metal work eayestroughing alex wallace phone markham 516j for office supplies business machine see the stouffville tribune amendment it asked the county to authorize the special civil de fense committee to work out the dissolution of the joint cd com mittee between oshawa and the cpunty deputyreeve heber down of whitby twp said that council had been talking about civil de fense for nine years it is a touchy subject he said they are not sure themselves that they are doing the right thing if we havent done anything we have wakened them up help in storm reeve ear1 dowswell of ux bridge twp urged more study of civil defense before abandon ing it he noted that in his town ship a recent ice storm had cut down hydro and telphone lines had it been coupled with snow he said the area within a few miles of metro toronto- would have oeen completely isolated in a situation such as that he said it appeared that there was a place for civil defense deputyreeve mrs reid said that if there had been an effec tive civil defense program some thing would have been done in that emergency defeat motions both amendments and the mo tion were then put to council and all were lost a revised motion by reeve morley removing the portion about rescinding the earlier de cision to withdraw was put to council and passed 25 for and 13 against it is anticipated that warden heron will today name a spe cial committee to make the study and report back to 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