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Welfare administrator Woman not Steve Hines Welfare ad mimstrator for the City of Bar rie for the last 12 years says Leanne Burke who plans to protest in front of City Hall ecause she was refused welfare support was not refused welfare She was only refused at the time because she wouldnt give the proper information She claimed to have lived on Dunlop Street but when check edshe hadnt Jobwise she gave me no satisfaction at all found out she had worked until June this year and that would make her eligible for unemployment in surance but she refuses to app ly and its one of our stipula tions that an applicant must ap ply Hines said Hines says he phoned the Unemployment Insurance and they said the last time they had heard from her was last Oc tober at which time she had left the office yelling and refus ed to fill out forms there as well told her that when she wanted to fill out the forms the way she was supposed to there should be no problem need three yeais back information RIGHT TO ASK Hines said he has the right to ask for three years back in formation but doesnt usually do itonly year or year andahalf He said he did in this case because she wouldnt give him the information he re quested told her would have to make home call and she said she might not be there at the time She just seems to move here and there as she chooses The UIC told me they sent her cards which were never return ed It is very important to me that she didnt tell me she had been down east If she was liv ing there it would make her 100 per center meaning that the provincial government where she was staying would pay the welfare costs She told me we wouldnt have enough paper in this office to write down the places she had lived TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE Hines said Welfare is only for temporary assistance until something permanent can be worked out Clients are usually if STEVE MINES welfare administrator put in rehabilitation program placed with some other welfare program or pension plan or they find job Welfare requests have gone enied help up gradually he said With over 90 per cent of applicants com ing from broken homes The Barrie Welfare operates on about $500000 year Hines said The government ties our hands because it says Mrs so andso is entitled to certain amount of money and you make sure she gets it but dont give her penny more or you wont be compensated for it Hines says each welfare dollar is made up of 20 per cent municipal funds 30 per cent provincial funds and 50 per cent dominion funds UP TO IHEIV Asked how he felt about the protest demonstration Burke has planned at City Hall Hines said it was up to them As far as their protest goes they can do as they want hope its Thursday or Friday because Ill be at meeting The fact that she Burkei didnt get welfare is nobodys fault but her own As far as Im concerned she is entitled to it but she has to answer the ques tions first Jury in arson trial fold fire was deliberately selL By SUE BURKE Examiner Staff Reporter An inspector of the Ontario Fire Marshals office told county court jury Tuesday the fire which destroyed the home of Angus businessman Ralph James Davey wasdeliberately set Thomas Dewhurst testified that interviews with key witnesses and results of tests made on debris collected at the scene of the fire convinced him the blaze was planned Davey 36 was charged with arson after his $60000 Brent wood Road home burned to the ground May 12 1976 Dewhurst told the five woman six man jury traces of turpentine and naptha gas were found on debris at the scene during an investigation held in the next few days He testified the chemicals were found in the northwest comer of the room firefighters first found flames when they were called near am Dewhurst said the combina tion of the two acts as an ace celerant to flames and said the chemicals ieaction to water is mushrooming effect Application of water would increase the intensity of the fire buring on turpentine and nap tha he said Brian Wakefield the first Essa Township firefighter at the scene testified Monday his attempts to douse the basement fire with water only increased the fires intensity Dewhurst also said he found multicolored film covering pools of water in the burnedout basement he suspected to be petroleum TRACES 0F NAPTHA Samples of the film were not among debris found to have traces of naptha or turpentine he added Dewhurst also testified he suspects smoldering fire which destroyed dining room floor on the main floor of the splitlevel house began separately from the basement one He said he doubts the base ment fire had the strength to jump through closed areas of the house to the dining room without touching rooms in between Under direct examination by crown attorney John Murphy Dewhurst described two methods an arsonist could use to start fires with flammable Ii quids with delayed reaction Fires could also be started with direct application of Chemical like turpentine to flame under careful conditions he said Defence counsel Richard Goldman brought out under in tensive crossexamination evidence by Dewhurst that police didnt search Daveys business for chemical cans after none were found at the Debbie Brandon At ountuig lllSI Siltlllllttl irountl it Links illltl lruxt UllllldlllfS lfl lllt retiit Union is my pliit tor lt lioiitiiiig saving and loan lllfll good rates and frSUllillIftl serwte lrt onvuu ing scene Dewhurst also said he knew of no attempts made to trace possible purchases by Davey of large amounts of the chemicals at local stores Goldman concentrated on the possibility of stirofoam insula tion in the basement walls caus ing flash fire in his cross examination Dewhurst said it was possible small fire reaching the insula tion could result in it melting and starting quick burst of fire Goldman also questioned Dewhurst on the possibility water used to douse flames at the Davey home had traces of chemicals in it because of pollur tion Dewhurst replied there was it possibility water used by firefighters could hold clie mical traces REMAINEI OOL Testimony given Tuesday in the trials second day also true ed Daveys steps in the morning of the fire and revealed the Angus man remained cool as his house burned down He wasnt upset about his house being on fire at all said Constable Royden Iring the Stayner PP officer who in vestigated the fire before the Fire Marshals office was call ed in Constable Fred Kendall and Cpl John Travis of the Barrie OPP found Davey at the back of his takeout business about 150 yards from the fire Constable Kendall testified Davey showed no outward emo tion when told his house was on fire saying only is it He said the fire could be observed from the business along with tanker trucks racing by and flashing lights on the road Constable Kendall testified Davey later said he had been called to Barrie near am that morning by Barrie city police with report his Cumberland Street house had been broken into Davey told the OPP he went to Barrie to check out 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