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he apprototfaw of thnt hsttfc of tht coiitft vttfc had been rfuc lrl he wtv not peparcdtiiretor to avow that the ubesxradc the ijffitetiwnwd etiodj 6- that army fee main object crfthcii poller many of them had fatten m ih field v y the bravery and kill with whirl thev bad been encountered- but ttt that filial defeat of the french army tin sillies would havebecajwuy chargeable with their rcfurrcfon if they iwd not followed op the wi and est iitgorticd 3s far as it was pufltbk the power fo dan gerous to all still faoivever it was ne eefifey to be ngjlant it the govern ment of europe weretn allow themfilvc be lulled into fecirkyby fuppoling that cbt frcoch army had ceafed to exift bcauie i had eeafed to appear on the parade thy would foon witueft a cvival f that fcourec which ad o loftff defola- of that jcourgc wwiiu tr the wold he had no licfitaiiotl therefore nay he prided liimfif in avow iq0 trrat it was dictmftly declared to ioui xvlii that if he did not diffftfa the french army the allies mull charge themfelvc v ith that iiulifpeifibie taw in order to give cffecs to this feprefenta linn three hundred thoufand men were affembled on the loire with the intention of denooncng i lie a r mill ice on a partieu lar day if arrangeme nta were not made ly the local authorities of france todit- folve that army the exiftence of which was incompatible with the general rc- nofe under thefe circumftances he put it to the feeling of every englishman wheth er on further interference wat not only natural andjuft hut whether it was nut fmperioufly demanded by the fhte in which this requisition left the king wh t right had we to call in the king to diflblve what was called the royal army if after having done fo we meant to leave him to thir mercy were we nl botwid to defend him from them ii their di banded as well as in their collect ed kate iuthcir chraer of con tors a well a- in their character of fol- drcrs he for one had nver been dif- puled to depreciate the abilities cf bona parte but thecomparrifon of the dan ger arifig to fociety from the talents of that individual and fiom the difpofitiui of the french army it elf wa a8 the crri between a drop o water and the iea if the moral or rather immor al pi inciple woven into the cwtflitution of flic french army had been fuffeicd to exift the confinement of cnaparte in the place to which he had been fent wa alinrl an unimportant ronfidcration for fjich an aimy would net find it difficult to fiid forrc man capable of leading i with conito and ability the ample qtlcflioil fr the allies to confide was whether moral and civil principle- fljoufd govern the world or whcthci ft fhould be ruled by a military riefpotifm int rwea png it elf by degree into all the hate of elmopc lu th fe who were for pnfli- ing t an cxiteotc the opinion of popular authority reflect on what this military dcfprslifm hvl been founded it had grown our of that ftae official diforgan- izativn which modern phlofphy and rrceri whiifn tended to produce f 1 rcfrge frcta the fort mutely the xcih and tntctiperance by which it was characterized had prevented ft perpetia lion every tffurt to thai effect how ever had been made by ita great leader l franc under bonaparte every thing bad been rendered fubordinate to the ar my one of the lad et of bonaparte was to call on the prefects of fiance to deliver to him defcrfptivc lifts of the fe male their property c in their ref- pectfve dillrictf evideotly intending to lacrifice then to the iflfl and rapacity of tht army hy which operated tpcn by fo powerful a ftimuiu he vmly hoped to maintain hirufcif on the tlirnnc of france and to carry defoirtjin into the fiirrounding dates so far was the in terfere nee of the allied power to put down the french army from being un- popolir in france that he had never tal ked with a fingle wc 11 informed ann in that countiy who had not fpakn of the tyranny of the military defpntffmas that fcm which it was deliable to efcape even ihofe who had vun through the vhoiecourfc of the revolution denounced thi military fyflem as a monfter in gov ernment which triumnhed over the law and which rendernd the ftate a mere in- brument for the gratificutlon of its own deteflibe wifhee not only were the ftcps t ken by the allies to guard againft thcrrtum of thw military defpotifm atefully acknowledged m france but a rtrong and very general folicitude wad blown that they would take into their protedion the civil conftitution of that contry a rep which according to the cttablilhed relation between nations it v irnpofvblc to take with refpect to the great body of the wcb nation whatever levity they rmgtt have exhibited with whatever fa- cotythey might have lent themfelves to uiffcrcnt ufurpations it waa the andbv defire of the allied powers not to purfuc towards them a tefcntful or revengeful tern d fecurity for europe with fuchj cts a would mark this great diltinguifh ing character of their proceedings name ly that their houilky was directed not againft france in a royal fenfe bnt ag- ainll france in a revolutionary fenfe and mmt cifcntially againft france as the cocerjtr military- jacobinism n r did the alies proceed on this ptinci- uealone they acted on a very broad policy if they had fp ilcd the game they had ben playing by mixing it wiihany ordinary queition between ftate er it wane ljnd ftate ifjniteaduf endeavoring to reinelyde france in the pale of focid na- ions they had attempted to degrade her they would hal combined all france igainft them inftead of having the great uiafiof the people on their fide there were fome people who might have fup- pofed that this was a favorable moment for depriving france of the eneioach- ments which he had made under loui xlvth and making her return to her id limits- but however fpecioua th fuppoiition the reafoning on which it wj- found d appeared to him to be ex tremely fallacious if fiance had grown finec the period alluded to other ftate hid aid rifen the power of the but ih empire for iuftance had increafed fo much of late years as to render the re- jnction of fiance lefs necelfiry the power of ruffia alfo had incieafed fo nuch tiiat with every confi lencc in it moderate cxercife it rendered impolitic a reduction of that of france and ab ove all nothing could have been more fatal to the policy and object of the great confederacy which was to keep their general principle dillinci from any pttty ar angement between fute and ftate h a- it i a 1 been the evils of anarchy bcft ving embarked with every tiling wife and loyal in france againft a danger com moil to ell europe ft would have been most injurious bad they made an indirect advantage of existig circumftanccs and failed to prefcrve to france her charac tcr as a nation from the king to the meaueft peafant in the country not a man but would haveunned againft them had they purfued any orhcrpolicy what the confederates were eipecially charged with was to tranquilize the world not to carve out the difercnt ftates accord ing to their own n tions which altho they might be abdractly right would if indulged lead them from that which was i heir great and important object coming to the confidcration of the fub- jedt with this view of it various lines of policy offered thcmfclvesfbr their adop tion there was the ccurfe of cauing on jvancc for a fevcre contribution of noncyand tliere as the courfe of calling on her foi an extenfive difrnemberment of territory a falie impreffion was he believed very prevalent on this part of the question it was fuppofed by fome that would be more wife to have made a fubstantial demand on france for tei- rfry leaving the french government in pofteffion of il their rtfources and ft was imagined that of all ceifions a pe cuniary cefhon wa most revolting to the feelings of the french he could a flu re the koufc that n- thing could be itfs true than this propofitioo with the exception of the natural repug nance which all men had to part with thejr inonev there was hardly any indif- pofitfonin france to this rrwafnre in deed the stare of the french finances ad mitted it out of the nature of u fit- nation and the profligacy of its conduct had grown this advantage- while all the reft of to world were draining their exertions fiance had fcarcely a burden for as loon as they had created armies they turned them loofc to prey on man kind he believed therefore tint france was in a mate of greater financial affluenae than any oilier country in eu rope and more eipecially with refer ence to the two neighboring ftates prus- fia and auftria he would take this opportunity of faying that under the exifting cirenm ftances of thofe two countries it had not been deemed prudent or wife by the bri- tifh government to prefs the repayment of the imperial loan they really were not in a ftare at prefent to make the exertion which that repayment would re quire in the laft two campaigns prus- sia had expended 1 200 millions of livrea or fifty million fterling and the ex- penfe of austria had been still greater in confequence the finances of thofe two countries had been fo reduced that had his majestys government infisted on the payment of the impeiial loan they would actually have been unable to have put their armies on the peace establifh- ment and would have been put to other inconveniences which in every point of yicw it was most dc arable that we mould if pbftiblc prevent them from enduring as to theceffion of territory by france instead of the contribution of money there was not a man in the kingdom from the monarch to the lowest individu al who did not entertain for fuch a pro- pofition that which might jumiy be cal- led a national repugnance so abhor rent waa it to the feelingg of the whole fiench people that he reallv hclicvrd it v bu f po combine the fj would it l beca i the power rfjh ht allies to peraiadehis rrioft chrilian ma jefty to accede to fuch a ftipulanon tides it ought to beconfidcred that un lets the demand for a ceition of terror went far it would be much wtfer n- o make it at all on fome parts of multifarious queftion before them t had of courfe been- ftrong dittercnce or opinion amdhgthe allied powers boton that of ihecefllon of fiench terrify none they all difavowed the hgw f treating france as a conquered nau0 that refpeaorof difmembering it vitlj a view to altet its military character 4nj refources as a nation all that y held themfdves entitled toconfider was hemore or lefs the modification of frontier but not one of the confedf- icd powers imagined that it was within the functions of the confederacy to f member france itfelf it fliould be tf idered that what was taken from fra muft have been given to fome other na ion there was the two fold danger of taking down one power and of raittmg up another unlefs a third or hall of her territory had been fevered f france no effect could have been pro duced and did the houfc calculi on the wounded pride and honor tp uch a dicnernbcnnciit would neeeta excite where was the englishman ttu would not fight for any of the anci poffeflions tffoqr crown and hen fay that he flioold not refpett tit frenchman who did not feel that he ilate of his country before the rtvolur was that in which ufa honor wjs boii up and that he could not allow the u9 to be diminifhed without a degradai worfe than death ke therefor- begird leave to contend that in point of jufti no proceeding of difmemberment cmfld take place and that in point of po1i the very nature of the conteft which w for the eftablifliirent of a general pi in pie of fecuriiy rendered fuch a ftep ir wiie and the laft remedy to which rope ought to look as a defence agair iheevilx that fumunded her tlr was another principle of action whi fliould not pafs unnoticed whatever m was wife to do at all it was importn mould be done not by any particul ftate bnt by europe as a whole was highly important that europe lm its prefent allied ftate fhotdd act as a h dy and that nothing fliould occur t 1 educe that body to its original rlcmcii if a fragment only had been taken fralp france and if i hat fiagment had bte delivered over to the power ro wh ntfli from local ciicuniflanccs it would hi- piovejthe great tit advantage the tmiti tenance and defence of the ncquifnio would have neceflariljy devolved on i bat fingle power and tht at a period of tht greateft agitation and difficulty it was a fundamental maxim of france to be involved in war with the low coun tries and whenever tlhis was the cafe the burden always fell ujpon the fliouldcrs of this country we had therefore ta ken care to fectire thee dominions of the king of the netherlands 3 much as pof fible againft any attaack from fanc by tht precautionary rjieafurefi however that were adopted there wa every rca ion to hope and beltewethat france wouh not make any hpftile attempt we hat 150000 of the beft fro ps in the world under a man who vra juftjv and univcr- fally admitted to be the grtatcft general in the world and as france had created the danger it was bmt right that fhe fliould pay the price for watching over her tranquility on the whole he had good rcafon to believe that the peace would prove fecure even though fome hew of hnftiliticf rrght be nisvie bv france in fo long a space of the vtfe of man as five years in would hy no means have been wife to harve taken the line of foi treftes from france and annexed them to the counties to wwich they were con tiguous such a rnfure would have been of no advantage to thofe countries j ft might have been remitted by the french government and might have created more danger of a new war than the lea ving of them in the poftuflion of france after the allied troops fhould be with drawn it was the general opinion in france that fhe nevr erred more than in extending her territory the future ftate of europe depended on kings be ing permanently felded in france and they would be fo by not fnfferlng her government to he thrown backwards and foi wards a 9 it had been the allies had preferred the government of the king becaufe it fecmed try offer nothing that was likely lo hake the peace of europe it was therefore 0 deliberate pnrpofe of the allies when r hey concluded the treaty of the 20th oj november to do away all caufe for jcaloufy and they bound thcmfclves to rcftore the fortreflvs with the few exception fpecified in the treaty at the end of five years but they did not bind tjiemfelvea to reftore them to any but the kings lawful heirg and focceflors fo tbt if the prefent dy- nalty fliould by any means be fubverted we did not pledge o irfelves to the folly and ablurdityof giviag them up to any pcrfon who might ke at the head of the cher it would be nectffary to impofe fomi new reftriaions we were pledged to iupport the king of france but not t fupport any new revolutionary govern- m he was fatisfied that greater le- curhicsforihe durability of the eace had been bbtaraea by the courfe pnrftic in the late negociations than could have been obtained if france had been puhv into concelfions with a more violent hand if the king had not afcended the throne on the principle that the virtual integrity of france fhould be preferved he lord caftlereagh would have had the molt fe rious doubts of the continuance of peice he felt that in that cafe it would have been much endangered bytheirritatcd fee lings of the frtuich nation but while due attertion had been paid to this con- fideration the allies had not failed to ac quire what theythought adequate cani ties tor the future repofe of europe thefe he t ufted it would be the opin ion of the bpttfc ihey had obtained when it was recollected that live fortrcfleg of confiderabje local hnportance had been ceded by fiance to the king of ihe ne- iherknds and that the deftruction of one which was of forne importance har been infilicd upon had the arrange rent made for the future repofe of e tope flopped here he fliould have rhot it incomplete in hisopimon however the other condition which haj been made combined with thofe to which he hah juft referred would place the balance of power in europe 01 a better footing titan it had obtained liuce the tine of feph the tecond france wan f paj tothealiie- feven hundred millions of livres out if this fnm three hrmdrcd millions was 10 be expended f the erec tion of ftrong places to defend the low countries which would thus be placed in a better late than they hid been in iv the lift fifty years and he had no hesita tion in faying it wa a much better game for england to pay to fuppct the king of the netherlands in his own territories than it would be to maintain hi author ity in places taken fro in frincc which that nation might reclaim whenever flic fell her military power fuflicienlly revi ved to enable her to vtntureou fuch an undertaking rewac anxious thnt the qnettion fhould rcrt on this principle that england ftvuld rather tskc upon her- telf to dcfeid the netherhmds than to hold th- ftrong placi taken fiom france fome of which it mull be difficult t maintain and fbme lille for inftance it mull heohvihis to every perlon who looked at their military fituation would he rather an incumbrance than an ad- ii point on which it cotild be aed upa with mutual benefit the advance con tended for on either fide were lost f believed france could pay the contribu tions which had been demanded and that fhe intended paying them france he maintained was as greatly interested i feeing thnt military fpfrit fumidc which had prevailed within her territories fo long as it was poflible the rest of eu rops could he if at the end of fiy years fhe fhould find this to have beca materially abated and her civil energiei increafrd in pioportion the change thus produced would be not lefs beneficial to her thun it would prove to her neigh bors the contributiona demanded could be net by the revenwsof that corn- try by the fale of crown lands by the augmentation of her national debt 0j might be enabled honorably to fulfil her engagements without bringing on the state any extraordinary calamity france it had been stipulated fliould pay as an indemnity to the allies the fnm of 700000000 livrea 28 or 29000000 sterling but this was comparatively fpeaking a very incou fid eraole payment when put by fhe cvv of the other expen fen which the late war had thrown upon her in addition to this 29000000 fiance had engaged to msinrainan army of 150000 men t turtjhg to the allicg for rive years the expenfe of each houfand mn could riot be estimated at left than i of itvres per ann this army therefore wnnd cofl flnce yearly the fnm of i eooooooo frttn this it would he ken the fums which france would have to pay in five years frthe mainenance of this amy would he ro ooocoo of livres making with the 700000000 given to the a its as fan indemnity a total of 1150000000 of livres by a convention erne tided the french government had cnaud to pay 1 20 it vres a man bout on the whnle f rce of 1040000 men whicti had mar- bed into france to couiser peace rffld the lall payment due on thin account bad been made the expencc of this vail force bad been borne by france for nve or fix months nid this added to the fums which he imc already named and other charges which bad been thrown on her brought the total expenle of the mvaiioii which he had iuftained up to a fnm of not lefi rhan 2000 mil ions of h- vrcs about 8ocoooco lviling he dcorectfed that dilpofuion toarraifrq pi l vaptagei he veonld nov fiy a few words on the fubjeft f the lactificesfff a pecuniary nature mjv fed upon france in fatirfac- t ion of the views of the allies looking t the fpatiii winch thefe would have upon the french government he ccr- lainl v considered what had been dre in hi- refoeel was politically the moll expe iknt courfe to neutralize in the fiilt in- lance and ultimately to remedy thai military fph it which had proved fo faial o the repof of europe if we drew from the french thofe refources which might in tain a militaiy force and op- lied it to the fupport of their nwn kept here for the purpoftfcof fuirvtiluiccy we took the bell mean for preventing the recurrence of thofe eils againft which it v the oh j eel of the jiei to guard tiii iv th hr the wiled policy that otdd he pefiiaded toaccornplifh the end in view and thai whvh would be the ieaft ffenfive as ft wmld be the lcaft in jurioiis to faee herfelf thtu perfe vered in for five yars he entftttained fang nine hcrcs would eftablifh the tran quility of france aid with it that of ihe rest of europe but he wan aware that it was common fr gentleman to fay tlu- eontrihitfok which had been impofed france could n t and would not pay jn aniwer to this he had in the firt place 10 stare tha he hid aircadv made very cnnfiderable payments and thefe under circumstances rtf peculiar difficulty and crnhairaitincni in the fecond he would bfrrve lie must pay them or become bankrupt in national credit and thirdly it was to be remembered that if flie fail ed to do this we fhould then stand in the fame fituation in which we had stood when in the opinion cf fome gentlemen we ought to have infisted upon othei terms founded upon permanent ceffiona of territory to be made by france it was now tobeconfidcred how the payments could be made by fiance and what would be the effed of them on her trade and refources in fpeaking of the arrangements which had been made he wiflied it to be distinctly understood that when he fpoke of them as being wife he did not give them tht chai after- oecaufe he thought them rniuons to france he protested against this doctrine altogeth er as he was fatisfied no arrangement could be wife that carried ruin to one of the countries between which it wa con cluded he believed that if both par tea had not an interest in carrying any reaty ncgociated into effect it must i precieo dial tupiiition toarraii the intention of the allied powers which had recently iven manifcftcd and eon- 1 ended thefe eflort to create an alarm unfounded hi the foil nifltnets wrtt jijkc y if any thing could be expected to produce u h an effecl to originate ffj evils the exiftence of which thofe to whom he refer icd affcaed to deplore the friendly difpufirion of the emperor of ruffia towards t hi- country had been particularly mantfeftcd in the coorfe which he hnd recently taken wiih ref- peifl to the ionian ifhnds this fuppi ed a refutuian nf all the htements which had been circulated for the pnrpofe of awakening a jaloufy againft ruflia on r he part of this country if any thing was done by this country which at all went to feparate its intertfts from thofe of its allies he was convinced that we fhould not only give up the advantages frlf from their influence but we fhould do that which would tend to keep u that military fpfrit m europe which it was defirahle to fee lowered hear hear though the other powers in europe had not been thrown into tlmfc mnfirons creations of militaiy efforts which had been wftneffed in france flj it could not be denied that there exited in them a warlike fprt which could not immediately fubfidc and he went along with thofe on the oppolite fide who were of opinion a pcrtect ftate of peace could never be abtainrd till that fpirit flrould be much abated hear hear tfll armtej again became univerfally the creafuresof the stte inftead of state being as thy had been fcer in fome io- ftanccs the creatufes of the nrmfes hvar hear hear a reduction of fhe military force of englad could take place former than a firilar rejnclion could be effefled in other conntr but if we were to be precipitate in put ting this meafurc in operation ulnle all the reft of the word were in arms we fhould do that which woidd be likely to perpetuate that fytlcm which wc vlhed to fee changed and which if a different courfe wew pin fiad on our part we might reafonably hope w old nnt lomj be up held hear hear hcli and loud cheep tog fife loidihip conehnled one nf the most able fpeeches ever delivered in parliament by moving an addrefiibmilai to the one moved in the tioufe of lodt by the earl of liverpool governs at that umc bu to m a veutuaily fej xn for sale a number of town lots near lite fx french church the terms d payment will be made cafy i hearf- kmjjftonsept 231815