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QUEEN'S PARK $20 Million Reduction In Net Debt - ! By DON O'HEARN Parity Offer Deserves TORONTO, = The roving ; a ean ' § y * Careful Consideration tc i ah ews sae 2 ; ¥ duction in net debt of $20 mil- Difficulty in bridging the produc- are stopped for 30 minutes of each ies nO t of $20 mil tivity gap between plants in the shift for two 10-minutes-rest periods In other words a $20 surplus, United States and Canada has posed _ and two five-minute washup periods. the first since 1948, one of the most serious problems on The company proposes a change bio of course, was to be ¢x- Arias ' ie S wheraby _ becte the road to wage parity in the auto- to the system in ee U.S. hy here y Taxes, including sales tax, motive industry. In theory there has workers are replaced by others were increased in 1966, and been some justification for the while they take their relief time, when Treasurer James Allan eis Sn eels ae 4} "+ , roduction predicted a deficit in his budget United Autoworkers Union request with no stopping of the proc bere , j : ' speech that year you took it for for parity in view of the continental line. : ne : granted he wasn't serious. marketing arrangements within the The change would place the Cana- It was obvious that only a ca- automobile industry. dian operation in a much better amity could produce anything Economists' have argued that competitive position with the pro-. -- but a surplus. wage parity can be logically and duction of plants in the U.S., the And when -new Treasurer tga es i aha ner é ¥ aintaina t ule a Charles MacNaughton last Feb- safely achieved only whe n produc- company ma ntain ab Pipes 4 piney dunlak Wik AaHUAT ike tion parity is reached. The conten- course, also neces ate dhe hiring -- sree for § monthe aad anc eit tion has been that Canada is no- of more workers to man the tag mate for 3 months, forecast a where near the United States in system in the Canadian plants. short-fall os! _ $48 million it - sf ne : ji r s certain that is respec fact, accor ier side of the coin is that Was Tceatate. a cer this respect. In fac t, ac ording to a Che other side o i, the final 'figures would show & study made by Professor N. Lich- these rest and washup periods have surplus. ick of Carleto University in. been the accepted practice in Cana- For in the years of Conserva- 3 wick f arleton J } the yea Ottawa, output per factory worker dian plants for some 30 years. They _ tive pero ue orgs snes ne , , tenth for aome.90 veara, Uni urers have usually played it so was 36 per cent Jower in Canada _ dian plants for some years. Union gate in (Ait TRUAHIN forkounte than in the United States last year, spokesmen say they represent a tra- that their figures have been a widening of the gap by a full six dition with which werkers will not about 5 per cent under-esti- She Oshawa Sunes 86 King St. E., Oshawa, Ontario Published by Canadian Newspapers Company Limited T. L. Wilson, Publisher E. C. Prince, Associate Publisher OSHAWA, ONTARIO, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 14, 1967 a Y/ : H ar E Actually this year the fai o sints 0 vears. easily part. mated ( ' ; percentage points in 10) Hy A : : figure is only ab ent). It is in this context that the Granting that it is a deeply cavEe ye Sous eucul 7 eer cen}) offer made by General Motors to cherished tradition, it will be one NEW SPENDING: ; co ceed vester fs : y di It to defenc thi : Does this mean that the prov- its autoworkers yesterday might extremely difficu | lin 8 thaw de IA a WAU at AE have best be considered. The company time of rapidly changing economic wuaa? Are Premier Robaris and FOREIGN AFFAIRS ANALYSIS proposed the achieving of parity in and industrial conditions in Canada. - his people wrong when they wages. over a 2!2-year period pro- The precedent has been set by their argue with Ottawa that they need more money. ; Mics ° . In the current fiscal year end- , } 4 5 " n . , > pertes , ' pany's plants south of the border. Their own society certainly needs 4,5 next March 31 we probably The company offers wage parity the boost in production the change -- won't make out too badly. with comparable job classifications would bring. Mr. MacNaughton in his Feh- in U.S. plants on the requirement of Autoworkers will have to ap- ruary budget speech forecast a shori-fall of revenue over expen- iture of $162,000,000 : sb : and threatened then with Soviet By the time we know the final military intervention, like the story about this time next year one Hungary suffered, appear to this short-fall probably will jaye found a wavy of living with have very much Jess than this. themselves, involving not only he ° In fact it is not inconceivable, considerable independence but in l though unlikely, that a surplus eyoen satisfaction at their rela- n u condition once again would be tionship with Russia; the main = shown Many in Oshawa and throughout treal, as a private and came out of But in the 1969 fiscal year if Y the revenue sources and rates By PHILIP DEANE Foreign Affairs Analyst A ; ; The Poles, in full rebellion parity of work practices. proach their next step in negotia- against Russia ten years ago At the present time the produc- tions with a high sense of respon- tion line in Oshawa assembly plants _ sibility. veteran organizations, will be sad- promptly « joined the permanent -- ent dened by the death of Major Gen- army and because he had been im- With the start of a new legis- rye ; Bit . Mr. Robarts has @lready an- tary personalities this country has concept that any modern army jounced that the province will known. needed tanks and other armoured take over:a much bigger share A Scottish orphan at 11, he got equipment. of the cost of education his first taste of war when, as a He had plans for the Ram tank Bick Beh a free of earthquakes. The most waterboy ina Mexican mining camp, which was almost a model of the oad water 7 spectacular may have been as long ago as Feb. 5, 1663, when a he was the only person to escape U.S. Armys Sherman Tank but af- The transition to regional gov Jarge portion of Quebec was a@ massacre Jed by the notorious ter a great deal of dialogue and ernment--whatever form it may greatly shaken. There weren't : : ' , al fate wad : bandit, Pancho Villa, From thera delays it never became a reality, '@k¢---will undoubtedly call for any buildings to be damaged, ' } more money. And education and, Ra j j he tried his: hand at several occu- He was disappointed at that de- 'gepih " i il and cause loss of life, in :hose 4 , oy p health costs, of course, are on days, but the quake was strong pations ranging from a passenger velopment but he held to his ideas an ever-upward spiral. Plenty of enough to open deep fissures in ship. steward to-a soldier of fortune about engineering of military | ™oney will be needed. the snow, and divert rivers to in Central America. vehicles other courses. The most impor- mn vehicles. f Pinar ' : . . lar r } ae *, : é lant effect o hat quake was to At the start of W orld AY ar One, W hen he wa commandant of sending people rushing into the he joined the Black Watch in Mon- Camp Borden he designed a Jeep YEARS AGO churches to vow that they would for his special use and he used it give up selling liquor to the In- to get all over the sprawling train- 15 YEARS AGO, dians ee ; : : ' ' on ing area. He stepped up the armored Dec. 14, 1952 ae , rom iba a" Maka g 4 Os ta Times corps training program and de- Mr, and Mri... Stoyin Ween Calton ene ehanetle F of Church St., long standing has reasons to be thankful, manded perfection. He went from gports fans of 'the city, were There have been very serious By BOB BOWMAN Canada has been remarkably Oshawa au oe ' ; . Camp Borden to the Pacific Com- hosts to the Oshawa Generals wowed in noes re ae be Wi blishe ' 'hr' C. has always ese rious é t r as f at a Christmas dinner in their : ; E. C, PRINCE, General Manoger mand and Jater AS ( ommandant Meee nba damage, However, there was a MeCONE Editor Western Canada with his hase. at ' scare on Dec. 14, 1872, when a Edmonton, } Jennifer Rowland and Terry large part of the province was and shaken. The temors began short- ly after 9:30 p.m, and continued for about 40 seconds, Usually an earth-shaking of 10 seconds is 30 YEARS AGO, enough to cause severe damage. December 14, 1937 Yet there was little damage, The Westmount Pavilion has 4nd no loss of life. Scarff were chosen King he becs fvil dar y Queen at a recent popularity ie became civil defence co-ordinator contest held in Ajax for all of Canada. He travelled ex- tensively around the country -en- couraging Canadians to show more Upon retirement. from the Army, interests in organizing themselves been taken over by William In the interior, Clinto, Soda against the prospect of atomic at- Downing and is opening under Creek, and Yale felt the shocks. the name Avalon Pavilion on The temperature. was 20 de- tack. Not a tall ms vas never- - ta tall man, he was never Friday evening, with floor grees below zero, but people ran theless trim and a top-notch sales- shows and popular dance from their homes in the bitter man for civil defence measures. music cold. Church bells) rang, and The general had a full and re- buildings swayed, but held to- : Sern sence, can al re The dedication service for gether warding life. Whether on the battle- the newly built St. Andrew's It might be thought that the field or in highly- Panda ad- + will take place tomorrow. The quake, but Victoria also escaped Presbyterian Church, Cobourg, snow cushioned the effect of the ministrative posts, he w be re- paapiberal aa 46 Pais Pe af old church was completely de- damage although there was 10 it a8 an outstanding figure, stroyed by fire last January. snow. The tremors were felt for By Patrick Nicholson Playing Hookey From Commons Costly, If.. OTTAWA REPORT The absenteeism But the bill provided that gation, say at the United Na- Bert Herridge, the irrepressi of members of Par iament has each MP should -be allowed 21 tions? Obviously, ves. So is it ble New Democratic MP from been inc hg markedly over days of absence without penalty "public or- official business" if a the Kootenays has used the recent The. announce- in each session. With five sitting minister travels to some fara- privilege open to any MP to in- ment of the far from complete days a week, that is just better way community to open a new troduce a private member's bill ro}l call of MPs at even impor: than one month's holiday; the post office, and if the local MP on this subject. His Bill C--181 fant votes in the House of Com- Jiouse will have sat less than 38 attends the ceremony? Yes. But is for one purpose only: it de- a acts unfavorable weeks this year is it "public or official busi« fines '"'public or official busi- Pc CODEN Another, clause states that ness" if an MP addresses a pars ness" as being "restricted to Many Canadians are unaware pet that playing hookey could be a Each day during the session costly business for an MP. Bill shall be reckoned as a day of C-91, passed. by the House of attendance on which tisan political meeting at Bea- ver Landing? Or if he stays home and makes a 'couple of phone calls to constituents about work of a member as represent- ative or work related to the matters coming within the juris- diction of the Parliament of Commons on July 30, 1963, in- 1--There has been no sitting those 1 , : : ie y 30, 18 - > letters the creased the sessional allowance of the House in consequence of Ottawa? s they wrote him in Canada. of every MP to $12,000, plus a it having adjourned over that 3 It is improbable that the Her- tax-free expense allowance of da THOSE AFFIDAVITS ridge Bill will enjoy any better fate than the great majority of private member's bills, which 'die' unpassed at the end of the session. But there might he enough MPs interested enough to clear their conscience when The member is unable to attend because of his illness, or $6,000. But clause 2 of that bill said: "a deduction at the rate of ance record each month, say- 60 per da shall be made from 3--The member did not attend ing "I was present at Ottawa sessional allowance of a because of public or official and attended in my place at the member for every day on which business.' House of Commons in each sit- he does not attend a sitting of Those last four words are the Every MP swears an attend- ting day during the month of-- fs * ( the house." And clause 4 added: kernel; the. bill did not define ----with the exception of - _ they sign that attendance affida "The expense allowance shall be "public 'or official business." days during the said month. Of Vit, so that they would conspire subject to a deduction equa! to the deduction from the sessional allowance in respect of non-at- Each MP defines this according to his own conscience. Is it "public or official busi- ness"' to get this bill passed. But look were unavoidable, my absence at Mr. Herridge's words again. tendance at. sittings of the on those days being due to ill+ "The work of an MP as presen- House if the MP is appointed to ness.' tative' is hardly more explicit Thus one day of absence could represent Canada on a parlia- Nothing about 'public or offi- than "public or official busi- cost an MP $120, mentary or governmental] dele- cial business." ness," J the said days of absence Polish worry seems to be not about continuing strong links with Russia but about the possi- bility that these links might be loosened. Such are the conclu- sions of perceptive western dip- lomats who have been reporting their findings in Warsaw. In terms of foreign policy, Po- land is firmly anti-American, in the sense that the main objec- tive of Polish foreign policy is to maintain the present territo- Ontario County, particularly those it with the rank of captain and FaTidit ABA RuIIA BERG coredent associated with the regiment and four decorations for 'bravery. He the picture will be quite differ- arge Part a en ' ay pak ' a * . ; pee Ye i ns pe in aya lature big new spending pro- eral Franklin F. Worthington. He pressed by the success of British , Bylonegy Period th was one of the most colorful mili- tanks, he became dedicated to the ®"4™S are in prospect y ar remors n only 10 seconds. there, but caused considerable alarm. Vancouver did not exist in those who run Poland days except for small communi- ties like Hastings and Gastown. OTHER DEC, 14 EVENTS: 1820--Lower Canada _pariia- ment passed resolution protest- ing absence of important civil servants appointed by Britain. Bank of Montreal was incorpo- rated 1837--Rehbels led by Dr. Chen- jer were 'defeated at St. Bus- tache. Chenier was killed, 1848--First session of New- foundland legislature after re- turn to Constitutional govern- ment 1851--Reform leader George Brown was elected to parlia- ment for the first time. 1901--Yoho Park Reserve was established by order-in-council. 1951--Foreign exchange con- trol regulations were abolished. 1956--J ohn G. Diefenbaker was elected leader of. the Con- servative party. 1960--University of Otlawa re- ceived $35,000,000 for expansion. TODAY IN HISTORY By THE CANADIAN PRESS Dec. 14, 1967... Prince Albert, consort of Queen Victoria, died 106 years ago today--in 1861--of typhoid fever at the age of 42. A keen amateur scientist and sponsor of social re- form, his influence over-the Queen was fully appreciated only after his death. Victo- ria went into seclusion for many years and wore mourning to the end of her life. Some historians believe her political astuteness on her return to public life was a direct result of her life with the German-born prince. 1799--George Washington died at his home in Mount Vernon, Virginia. 1956--J ohn Diefenbaker was elected national leader of the Progressive -Conser- vative party. First World War Fifty years ago today--in 1917--the French cruiser Chateaurenault was. torpe- doed and sunk; Austrian forces made slight gains in heavy fighting between the Piave and Brenta rivers on the Italian front. Second World War Twenty-five years ago to- day--in 1942--United States Air Force made heavy raids on the air base at Munda, on New Guinea Island, for the fifth consecutive day; fighting on Stalingrad and in the central fronts devel- oped into a temporary stale- mate; RAF bombers at- tacked Naples. FOR THE MAN WHO HAS EVERYTHING ' f iste vided the workers agreed to the. fellow-autoworkers in the U.S. with ' : P l work practices in force in the com- whom they request parity of pay. No out rops u n O an rial arrangements in Europe-- the Oder-Neisse frontier with East Germany; Washington has not committed itself to the Oder-Neisse frontiér which has given Poland much German ter- ritory in the west in exchange for territory lost in the east to Russia. Poland has adapted to the change, worked and settled her new lands and does not want the convulsions of change again, Communist East Germany ac- cepts the Oder-Neisse frontier and is therefore viewed with favor by Poland, whereas Wash- ington supports the West Ger- mans who have refused so far to accept the postwar Polish borders. West Germany's wooing of Rumania and other east Euro- pean communist nations worries the Poles; they are particularly disturbed by the possibility of a deal between West Germany and Russia--the last time there was such a deal, it was at Po- land's expense. GERMAN EXPANSIONISM For the same reasons, Poland would not happily see the depar- ture of American troops from Germany; Americans are- be- lieved to be a guarantee against possible German expansionism to the east. So, in foreign policy terms, Poland is extremely con- servative and does not want what we in the west like to call a 'grand settlement" of the Eu- ropean question: the settlement has occurred, the Poles believe, and they wish we would stop talking about changing it; for them a divided Germany is the least frightening solution, .the one solution that makes at least one part of Germany dependent on Polish support. But apart from wanting Americans to stay in Germany, Poland does not approve of much they now do, Vietnam is not seriously taken as a threat to world peace by the Poles and they generally view it as very remote--not a vital Polish issue --but it does decrease the re- spect of Polish intellectuals to- wards America. Now that their system has begun to work eco- nomically, these Polish intellec- tuals and technocrats are turn- ing to Russia, in which they can see what the next Polish stage is likely to be, since they have copied Russian methods. The one big imponderable, in Poland as in many advanced countries, is the attitude of the young who seem to lack com- mitment to existing institutions, parties or persons and to be thinking mainly about them- selves. This non-ideological youth scares the old ideologists BIBLE "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned eyery one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the in- iquity of us all."' Isaiah 53:6 Without exception every man is born with sin and "except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." "'All have' sinned and come short of the glory of God." POINTED PARAGRAPHS "Girls Are Just Different, fhat's All." --Title of maga- zine article. Yes, indeed, and thank heaven! It is wondered if those teen- agers who don't trust anybody over 30 will trust themselves when they reach that age. V. Hill, first deputy reeve; of council were: Thomas Hawk- ents to the scheme were Ed- 7 i ; IN Dale who. asked" the board met with the East Whitby Town: 4 ship council put to a vote of the electors, Of the police village of Cedar D. M. McIntyre, KC, chair- Dale. It was pointed out that man of the board, pointed out Oshawa wanted about 800 acres such a procedure would be use- Of land around the mouth of only 226 were opposed. THEN AND NOW Cedar Dale Joined Riding City Status By FORD LINDSAY Park, which Of The Times Staff of East Whitby Township. Cedar Dale Wilson Rd., Cedar Dale provid- ed the town with frontage on MR. MATTHEW Lake Ontario and paved the yet influences" way for the construction of har- work to secure names for the bor facilities. More important- petition, he claimed the terms ly, however, was the fact that of the proposal were not fair the increase in population to ac residents of the area want- 14,500 placed Oshawa in the ed an agreement i position of being able to qual- bind the town +o spend a cér- ify as a city two years later. tain amount of money on local Cedar Dale consisted of 1,196 improvements. acres and had a population of pine cents of every dollar of 1,256, assessment be set aside for this In the election held in Jan- purpose. uary, 1923, the following mem- Mr. Powers said he was in bers of town council were elect- fayor of annexation but wanted ed: William J. Trick, mayor; the proposal put to a vote. Other speakers in favor of an- nexation were Dr. Thomas E. Kaiser, Mayor . Deputy Reeve Mason and Town Engineer W. i The move toward annexation east ward; Robert D. Preston had its origin : and A. W. Brown, south west 1912 when a large delegation ) Schell and R, Waited on the federal George T. Morris, reeve; Frank L. Mason, second dep- uty reeve and J. L. Whattam, third deputy reeve. Members es and T. J. Sheridan, north ward: Herbert P. § C. Henry, Cedar Dale ward; ment asking that something be O. R. Burns and Nelson Baird, done about the development of on more modern harbor facilities. In the following year a résolu- THE GRANTING of annex- tion was passed by council ask- ing that marsh land around the mouth of the Oshawa Creek be acquired to build a harbor. was. proposed that two bréak- waters, 300 feet apart be built. south east ward. ation culminated an eight-year dream and was attended, con- trary to expectations, by very little opposition. The only oppon- ward Powers and C, D. Mat- chairman to order the proposal less in view of the fact that the creek. 35 7 sig e . assessment of Cedar Dale was 350 people had signed the pe O00 Gr Mbont of that of the entire township. Gordon D. Conant was the Over the intervening years a chief speaker in favor of an- number of officials of the de- nexation. He stressed that Ce- partment of public works visit- dar Dale left the town with ed Oshawa, and surveys were each year Oshawa dition the town farm was locat- was told the federal ed in the area as well as the ties could not waterworks plant and Lakeview tition in favor of annexation and $15 no access to the lake. In ad- taken but Output Of Goods, Services Down For Year In Canada By DENNIS ORCHARD inflation and wary of tariff and tax changes as it sheds 1967 for 1968. Businessmen are less com- forted than usual by familiar year-end assurances that. the nation is basically strong and competitive. In 1967, for the first time since the great advance began in 1961, measurements showed the labor force to be less pro- ductive. The real output of goods and services per worker actually declined dur- ing the year. Wheat salés abroad for the slightly. ed to drop just below the 10- concessions year average of 362,800,000 markets at home. The price bushels. : increase on Canadian manu Business investment, up factured goods was 5.8 per 1 cent in 1967, promises to drop slightly after at a time when protection is only three per cent in 1967, passing $10,000,000,000 for the weakening. first time. With help from Expo 67, Canada knocked its balance- account down to an estimated $750,000.000 in 1967. But a more familiar $1,000,000,000- plus deficit is in prospect for 1968. OTTAWA CUTS SPENDING Inflation so concerns the per cent by eliminating new programs, It predicts an 'over-all in- per cent, crease in budgetary expendi- tures of 4.3 per cent to $10,- profits before taxes were the 300,000,000. Increased: income, liquor and tobacco taxes are makers experienced a mid- expected to bring in an extra year period of inventory ad- $520,000,000 in 1963 The provinces, expected to the prospect spend eight per cent more, bright for have been asked to pledge guered Dosco mill at Sydney restraints of their own on Cape Breton Island. The Federal Finance Minister overexpanded pulp and news- print industries cut back pro- Sharp takes his inflation-fight- ing campaign to business and duction. labor next, asking voluntary curbs on price and wage in- creases. Inflationary psychology, popular term for a malaise in the capital market, sent some interest rates to their highest levels in history. HOUSE-BUILDING OFF Canada's increases, mand. Economists suggest NHA and conventional mort- taxation. gage lending under a new It is the federal Bank Act. _ ment's unenvied task in 1968 But with high-cost property to accept or reject such strik- and prevalent mortgage rates ing Carter proposals as full- of 8% per cent, the monthly rate taxation of capital gains, Payments will discourage integration of personal and corporate income taxes, inclu- The flattening outlook for sion of gifts and bequests in taxable income and abolition hold the growth of imports in of tax incentives to the petro- mr to perhaps four or five leum and mining industries, many potential buyers. business investment will help had been given to the city by R. 8. McLaugh- lin and General Motors. THE FOUNDATIONS of what In the past, } fs now the City of Oshawa were the town had been obliged to laid in December, 1922, when provide fire and police protec- the Ontario Municipal Buard ap- tion for the area although the proved the annexation by the problem of sanitation was pure- town of the Cedar Dale area' jy a moral one, had petitionéd for Located south of Bloor St. sewers which would and bounded by Park Rd. and with the Oshawa system, NEW MPP WILLU Comm PICKERING (Staff) -- 1 sion of the GO transit com train and opposition to th posed county-wide board o cation system are high ite: William Newman's priorit: The new MPP for O South has been attending ings, studying legislative grams and proposals and ing positions of his own | past few weeks. Since his election Oct. 1 Newman has attended twa servative caucus meetings Confederation of Tomorrow ference, several meetings in his riding and most « evenings '"'are spent with gations or at meetings." He is working for or «: several programs and tices. "I'm seeking an extensi the GO system at lea Whitby," he says. During his campaign h MARCH proceed with the harbor, per cent, compared with the ee 3) ; 11.5-per-cent increase indicat- OTTAWA (CP) -- The Ca- ed by figures for the first nadian economy is upset by eight months of 1967. Exports, 'after climbing 13.4 per cent through the same pe- riod, are expected to increase six to seven per cent in 1968, fattening the Cost increases however, are challenging the position of exporters at a time when competition is stiffening to take advantage of tariff re- ductions fashioned by spring's Kennedy Round agreements. COMPETITION STIFFER Domestic producers worry current fiscal year are expect» that Canada's own Unemployment hovered just above four per cent at season- of-payments deficit on current jv 'higher than 1968 eet ate rate too was on the rise at year-end, The consumer price index was running about four year, influenced most by housing costs, Wages in manufacturing federal government that it has were running 6.6 per cent high chopped $1,000,000,000 from ¢r at the beginning of October 1968-69 spending plans, mostly than a year figure for construction was 13 At mid-year, lowest since 1964. Major steel- justment and layoffs, although INFLATION HITS GNP national product of $62,- 600,000,000 or better represent- ed a gain of between seven and eight per cent from 1966, at least half eaten up by price In 1968, the script called for Money for housing is expen- 8 GNP growth of the same di- sive and scarce, and housing mension and price content to starts in 1967 at 155,000 fell a range of $66,500,000,000 to far short of the national de- -- $67,000,000,000. : ] Businessmen this will improve by 5,000 to most-unanimous "no" to the 10,000 starts in 1968 as banks recommendations enter the first full year of Carter royal commission on CANDLE MAKING Miss Lee Anne Souter (left) 502 Dunlop St. E., Whitby, while attending Col- borne Street school, ac- quired the basic knowl- edge in candle making. Later, she perfected this art and made her own Christmas. candles. This year as a centennial project she asked her friend, Miss RECRUITS BROUGHT IN | WINNIPEG (CP) -- Canada's eastern national hockey team will be bolstered by four players from its western counterpart Saturday when the club meets Moscow Selects in Hull, Que. They are Jean Cusson, Herb Pinder, Ray Cadieux and Brian Glennie. Maybe for you. Not there's only one wa whiskies from our fi Seagram's has five. them to get 5 Star's Is it worth it? For yc your friends about ' it'll be worth it for u By the way, have y¢ Easy on the eye.