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AT HOME in their smart bungalow in Lorraine, about 15 minutes' drive from the Ste. Therese plant, Clarence Wood and family pose in living room, in the top pic- ture. Left to right, Clarence, wife Jackie, Sandra (rear), Lori, Linda, John and (right) Valerie. On the job trim and hardware foreman Clarence Wood shows new employee how chrome window mould- ing is applied to car body. Clarence finds new workers at the Sit. Therese plant hardworking and careful. |the greatest resources of any|do these things unless you have) Compensations For Being 'Butts, Matches Far From Fishing: Foreman Feed For Dogs, The only thing that Clarence) Wood, trim and hardware fore-|lived The Wood family formerly at 1428 Lakefield st., She Oshawa Times -- OSHAWA, ONTARIO, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 30, 1965 HERE IS HOW Ontario riding's four political poss- ibles in the Nov. 8 election appeared before about 150 people at a forum at St. Gregory's Church Hall, last nght. The audience was made up of young citizens who will be voting for the first time in a general elec- tion. Left to right in the pic- ture are: Oliver Hodges, New Democratic Party; Dr. J. E. Rundle, independent; Michael Starr, Progressive Conservat ve; and Dr. Claude H. Vipond, Liberal. The four aired their political views before being subjject- ed to general questioning by a panel of four. During the forum a heckler got out of hand and after speaking his mind left the auditorium, Panelists Quiz 4 Candidates; Questions ranging from government scandal to develop- serving on warships in inter- national waters, Right now they don't have the vote." Mr. Gibson: 'Mr. Starr, the Unemployment Insurance Fund stood at $400 million when the Progressive Conservatives t ook office and was broke when the Liberals came to power. Why?" Mr. Starr: "When we were elected the unemployment rate was rising. The Canadian Labor Congress advised us to extend benefits, which we did. We also brought married women into the plan for the first time, and also extended it to cover many seasonal employees, with reduced contributions. "But what was it based upon and built for?' It has \built up again but will decline in winter." Mr. Endicott: "We have made large wheat deals with Red China, Russia and Cuba. How will your party develop export markets." e Cheers, Heckling ment of Canada's northern re- ' sources were fired by a four- t oters orum |member panel to four candi- ldates in the coming federal Applause, cheers and some, Each candidate had 10-min-\r1erNO% ft & gy im Jaecteri hy ae tag a hourlutes prior to fielding questions! auditorium. polictical forum in St. Gregory's , ; | Auditorium last night as the four to put is party's pallosopny and stk tian eine eae candidates in Ontario Riding |Promises across to the casei ee ai Endicott, tacad faced a four-person panel, |crowd. [Michael Starr, Dr. Claude Vi- pond, Oliver Hodges and Dr. OLIVER HODGES: |B, J. Rundle. The forum moder- ator was. George Roberts, Canada has many benefits and|tive bargaining "and you can't principal of McLaughlin CVI. | First question of the evening country in the world said Oli-|people who do know aboutjcame from Mr. Endicott who ver Hodges, New Democratic|them." asked Mr. Hodges how his Party hopeful. The implementation of a na-|party differed from the others "But in all this abundance the/tional Medicare scheme was!on labor matters. : politicians have let us down. Alljalso urged by Mr. Hodges. He} 'The Canadian Economic we need is organization. Wejsaid that it would cost $20 more|Council is not satisfied with need want for nothing. |per capita than is currently be-|the current unemploy- "We ought to have the low-jing spent to introduce the re-|ment rate," said Mr. Hodges. est unemployment rate in the|commendations of the Hall Com-/They want to get it down to world. We have not learned how | mission, . three per cent by 1971. to harness the greatest re-| Some 36 percent of the clec- source of all -- the will of the/torate is undecided, and frus-| REDUCE UNEMPLOYMENT people to work together con-|trated, and looks for leadership.) 'The rate in Europe can be structively. \"With Tommy Douglas asjhalf of one per cent. Why can't Mr. Hodges said that he wants|Prime Minister we will be free|we, by intervention in areas to be a member of parliament|of the slavery of unemployment, |that need it, reduce unemploy- when a collective bargaining|we will do something for mar-|ment by building roads, hospi- bill is introduced. He said he hasjginal farming . . . the peoplejtals and schools until private had much experience in collec-'are ready," said Mr. Hodges.| enterprise picks up the slack? | Mr. Gibson: "Do you favor DR. J. E. RUNDLE: the admission of Red China to ithe United Nations? If so, why? ; : . vif not, why not? Independent candidate Dr.jwill support legislation which) "ers sere | James Edward Rundle told the/ will resotre our '"'liberally - shat-| Dr. Vipond: "I strongly favor forum audience he doubted they|tered' middle-power, interna- 'would recognize him because alljtional prestige . and stop his poster have been torn down.|Canada's drift toward becoming 'Perhaps they are in demand|the 5lst state of the United) as collectors' items," he said,|States, | introducing himself as an MD| The strengthening of provin-| who wants to become an MP.|cial, municiapl and individual Dr. Rundle said he is the/rights was also endorsed by Dr. only candidate who was born in| Rundle. Ontario Riding and he stressed) He favored the removal of the his political independence, "in|11 percent sales tax on building spit. of allegations made against| materials; removal of 'hidden' me." taxation; reduction of defence (This was a reference to some|expenditure; a tripling of the of his critics who have suggest-|baby bonus; extension of the jed he is running to split the/age limit for student allow- |Conservative vote). ances; and the increase of in- | Dr. Rundle said if he is elect-;come tax exemption for a child jed he would be able to repre-|from $500 to $1500. {sent the riding without fear of} "The thinking voter realizes interference by a party whip in|that Pearson is calling an op- the House of Commons. Rundle. "The Liberal minor- "We independents will stop|ity government did not produce Mr. Starr: 'Yes, we should not follow the United States in this. We have the U.S.S.R. and other communist countries in China there to help solve many problems." Dr. Rundle: 'Yes, our situa- tion is indicative of U.S. in- fluence. We are in danger of becoming the Sist. state, we ought to exercise our influence... ." Mr. Hodges: "We agree that Red China should be {jn the UN, The U.S. recognizes For- mosa and Chiang-Kai-Shek who poses a difficulty for them. Red China should be included because you cannot ignore 700,- 000,000 people and say they don't exist." Mr. Endicott asked Mr. Starr the UN, We should have Red| Society Clai Soc | mah at the Ste. Therese plant,;OShawa, Mr. and Mrs, Wood/ lety alms regrets about leaving Oshawa/have five children, Sandra, Lori,! woitTpy (Staff) -- An On- is that he's too far away from|Linda, John and Valerie. \tario Humane Society inspec- his favourite Ontario fishing) ~~ [tee has filed a report to the so- Butte new ile Clarence an Scouring World ciety's bnanch here disclosing For Workers, Says Minister |that dogs at the Whitby dog} pound haye been fed "chicken/| bones, skin, cigarette butts and} paper matches". Branch secretary, Miss M.| |Sissons, '701 Athol st. s., Whit-| \by, said today she intends to) jtake the matter up before a} Quebec more than makes up for the loss. The Woods bought a stylish bungalow in Lorraine, about fifteen minutes' drive from the Ste. Therese plant. "We have lived all our lives in Oshawa, so the first indica- n tion I got that I could transfer | World to fill expanding job op-|council. to GM's plant at Ste. Therese, Portunities, Labor Minister The I jumped at the opportunity [Allan : It's been a. great experience |©ral supporters at a luncheon Davidson, Oshawa, made the} for the whole family. Who else|! Hotel Genosha yesterday. report to the branch after tour- gets the opportunity we've had) _ Speaking in support of Dr.jing thei dog pound last Thurs- to "pull up stakes" and move Claude H. Vipond, Mr..MacEa-\day with Thomas Hughes, gen- to a new environment just/chen credited the Liberal gov-jeral manager of the Ontario like that? We think it's great!" ernment with producing jobs|/Humane: Society. faster than the growth of the Mr. Davidson's report says STICK TOGETHER labor force that when Mr. Hughes criticized Although there has sc wri gonhoay sg of amg Se over the diet tendency for many of the GM{t at r right now in Canada,|he foun the dogs on during the people to stick together, Clar-| 'ompared to the mass unem-jhour-long inspection, the keeper ence and his wife are doingjfenbaker's time," he said. ployment in the cities in Die-|became "blustery and incoher- jent", their best to meet new people) Mr. MacEachen said high un-| The disclosure, in the form of and leat "ac: thatch of the employment in-the Conservative a letter, said that the pound- hi hey re period of power completely ex- keeper was at first reluctant to ee ne te : Galt hausted the unemployment in- admit Mr. Davidson and Mr. peg ale sine bd surance fund. _'|Hughes into the pound but later and Country ( schtachaal "When we were defeated in|allowed them in by order of a Jackie is taking night-school/1957 there was $850,000,000 in|superior. elasses in conversational|the fund. The Conservatives left The society officers found French. ; a deficit of between $20,000,000/table s.craps in dog dishes and a The Woods find that the costjand $30,000,000, Now, since 1963,/buckef. of left-overs from a of living at Ste. Therese is/there is more than 100,000,000 "locaf restaurant'. The bucket, considerably higher. than in in the fund. oe |Mr. Tyavidson said, contained Gack We eat out quite a This illustrates the changed|"chicken bones, skin, vege- i . : : ide since the Liberals took|tables, peelings, cigarette butts bit - - a Jot more than we di jover, he said. -- » jand matches. in Oshawa," said Mrs. Wood. neg Png Minister bragged) "When we asked about the that the Liberals have done a'scraps we were told the dogs NIGHT SPOTS lot with a minority. became tired of dog food and "There are so many good "At times we have been ob-|were given the scraps for a restaurants and night spots."| structed and pushed around. But!change," Mr. Davidson said 'They have 'also found' that we still got. a lot done. Town clerk J. Frost told the insurances - - car and fire 'With a majority we can do|Times' that about 160 dogs have {things a lot better, and do them|beean impounded at the dog insurance - - are much higher/faster. This is the real issue in|shellter since the start of the than in Ontario. + ° the election. lyegr. society's Oshawa and been politics for the party and return|the prosperity -- it's more due |democracy to the people. We/to the Diefendollar."' MICHAEL STARR: Conservative candidate Mi- chael Starr said his party sees a need for remodelling Confed- eration because of Canada's changing needs. "Confederation should be based on what all the provinces want. There should be a Can- said. provinces to "discuss fully' these changing needs "on the} same basis. as those discussions which led to the British North America Act of 1867'. The former Labor unemployed of the should be helped. Canada is now scouring the;meeting Monday of the town|ada with equal opportunities for tions with another one planned all, from sea to sea," Mr. Starr, i Minister} said that during his five years! in the post he decided that the| the unemployed ...I saw a Bill through the House which provided Federal financing of |up to 75 percent of the costs of vocational and retraining schools. |. "We have in Ontario Riding four of these schools and addi- . , They are filled to capacity and have a waiting list," said MacEachen told 85 Lib-/Whitby | area inspector, Allan| He called for a meeting of the | Mr. Starr. | | He outlined the need for ade-| quate legislation to meet the} lresults of a rapidly increasing | work force coupled with work) displacement through automa- tion and technological change. "IT introduced a Bill which jretrain without losing earning! "We found that we were not|power; we hope to implement equipped to train and retrain'it after Nov. 8." DR. CLAUDE VIPOND: We need a Canada in which every citizen will be adequately housed, fed, educated and be secure, stressed Liberal candid- ate Dr. Claude H. Vipond. social justice is things and maintain a free and flexible private enterprise econ- omy." Dr. Vipond review. welfare measures jniroduced by Lberal governments, He said a pro- gram to supplement the income of needy old age pensioners is being considered. Steps toward a Medicare pro- jgiven annually), reduced unem- |ployment, the winter works. pro- "T yield to no one as far as|g£ram and the auto pact "which concerened.|alone would have justified the Only the Liberals can do these|Liberal government."' assistance to universities ($40,- 000,000 over the next four years in addition to the $150,000,000 "It will increase Canadian} auto production by 100 percent} over the next five years,"" he said. The audience cheered and ap- plauded again when he spoke of the new Canadian flag as an- other Liberal achievement. Dr. Vipond then spoke of the|tion officials and civil servants | Gibson. gram: were outlined by Dr. Vi-)contribution of his party to Can-| overseas. pond, as well as a multi-millionjadian unity and parliamentary dollar program to produce new/reform, the reduction in income|them vote as do members of|works out," said Mr. Starr. doctors, nurses and hospitals. Dr. Vi spoke ef tax and the country's role in in- how he could justify the sug- gested increase of the old age pension to $100 in relation to the Canada Pension Plan. SOMETHING FOR PENSIONERS Mr, Starr: "The Canada Pension Plan does not include old age pensioners. They find it difficult enough to live on $75. monthly. If the govern- ment can find $2 million to spend on advertising the plan then surely they can do some- thing for the pensioners." Mrs. Ball: 'As the old age (LOCATING MARKET Dr. Vipond: "We must de- velop our industrial products as it is in export of natural pro- lducts that we have done so well. We are considering the export of forestry products on a reciprocal basis with the U;S. There is our biggest most luc- rative market. We must also expand our market for our mineral wealth." Miss Grout: 'Mr. Hodges, you have said that Quebec is full of vitality, What are the people there looking for and how would you help them get it?" Dr. Vipond: "This is the whole point of the parliamen- tary system -- that one party should have a majority. So we will have election after election until one party gets that ma- jority. "The people of Canada have to make up their minds and re- turn a majority party to the House." Mr. Endicott: 'There is a trend for skilled-workers to re turn from Canada to Europe. There has also been talk of bringing Chinese workers into the country. Why can't we train people here?" 'NEED STUDY' Mr. Hodges: "'There are more than one million members of the Canadian Labor Congress who would like to know that. We meed a manpower study, we need to assess our resources. "Previous governments have just left us with the trouble. Be- sides, some of the men who go back to Europe find more secur- ity there than here." Mr. Endicott: '"'What are you going to do about the problem? Mr. Hodges. 'We would raise the subsistence level for people pension is meant to supple: ment private |pensioners need $1007" Mr. Starr: - this day and age. Mr. Gibson: "You say that the auto trade pact has already practising physician, can you resulted in 16,000 jobs, increased)... that there is a sufficient production and lower auto igures?"" 3 Vipond: 'The Depart- figures categorized according industry. Direct benefits of the pact can be seen in Oshawa} where three new plants have located and others are being) expanded to met needs." Miss Grout: "Dr. Rundle, you advocate increased baby bonuses, university scholar- ships, how can you do this and yet lower taxes?" : | Dr. Rundle: "By getting more) than 50 cents value in our tax dollar. If we cut our defense forces, the results would be better for the students and the world as a whole." Mrs. Ball asked Mr. Hodges if the NDP would extend vot- ing rights to Crown Corpora-| | Mr. Hodges: "I would let} the armed forces. 1 would also extend voting rights te those needed. | Mrs. Ball: "Dr, Rundle, as a number of people who lack country|/would give people a chance to|prices. Where do you get thes¢| medical care to warrant the in- troduction of a medical care scheme?" |lment of Labor has monthly) pr Rundle: 'There is a dan- ger of rushing holus-bolus into a semi - communistic state. There are lots of people you can- not satisfy at any time. The cost of the scheme would be out of all proportion to its bene- fits." Mr. "What industry Gibson: ka industries should be next on the tariff cut list?" Dr. Vipond: 'Lumber prod- ucts are currently being stud- ied. Industrial machinery, as we import much more from the U.S. than we export." Mr. Starr: 'I cannot say. There must be an agreement between both countries befo: negotiations are made." . "How about steel?" asked Mr. "Tf the U.S. wanted it, but let's see how the auto-pact Dr. Rundle: "Only if both are willing to negotiate," been| who are not earning while tak- ing retraining courses. We would income why 40|nroject the economic needs of lthe country and have trained "To live on in| workers ready when they are |Terrell of Chicago Monday for Mr. Hodges: "The auto tradé pact is to our advantage. We should see that we trade lumber products'on a quid pro quo basis. As for steel, why can't we build a steel mill in Nova Scotia where we have the coal. Let's stop being hewers of wood: and drawers of water and be- come finishers of products." Miss Grout: 'What are the distinctive aspects of your party on education?" Mr. Hodges: "Free university education. Every student with the mental equipment must get necessary education with his jability to. pay for it being con- \sidered."" Dr. Vipond: "I agree that no |student. should go without 'a university education because of |money. Many students who don't make 80 per cent in marks pay their way through college with the help of their parents. Students with over 80 per cent should be paid for." | Mr. Starr: "Our program is {to lift university grants and |make tuition costs cheaper as a result. No student should be de- nied education. Dr. Rundle: 'Something ob- tained for nothing is seldom ap- preciated. Scholarships need not be repaid . . . open the doors to everyone and the standards would drop." Mr, Gibson: "In what way would you exploit our northern resources?" Dr. Rundle: 'Water or hydro- electric power should be ex- ported. As should oll and na- tural gas. Uranium and sea water will replace them in time, dispose of them now to our own benefit.' "Where would you get the people to work in the north?" asked Mr. Gibson. BETTER TO WORK "You could persuade some people that it would be better working than drawing unem- ployment insurance," said Dr. "Or bring --.in---people from other countries." Mrs. Ball: 'You have con- sistently criticised the auto - trade pact, shy?" Mr. Starr: "Because of the way it was brought into opera- tion. It took 10 months to go through legislative processes in the U.S. Here it took three days." Mr. Endicott: '"You have men- tioned students and the OAPs. What about the people between 25-50?" Mr. Starr: "They have the Canada Pension Plan, for which they start paying soon." "How about the 11 percent sales tax?" Mr. Starr: "It isn't a proper tax. You are given a $500 bonus Questions Run Gamut OfIssues for building a home in winter, yet have to pay 11 percent on your materials." Mr, Endicott: "How can an individual voting for the first time know that he will get an honorable government." Dr. Vipond: "During the past two-and-a-half years we have had unprecedented prosperity and organized crime has tried to share in that prosperity. They have tried to influence the gov- ernment, through a narcotics smuggler named Rivard. TWO DISMISSED "Two parliamentary assist- ants involved were discharged. One member of parliament is not running as an official Lib- eral candidate nor is former Cabinet Minister Dupis. "When Mr. Pearson has seen any wrongdoing he has moved to crush it. Mr. Diefenbaker's recent statement that 'a vote for the Liberal party is a vote for crime and corruption' is a cal- umny," said Dr. Vipond. Mrs, Ball: "Is there any apathy among voters in Ontario Riding?" Mr. Hodges: "There is no apathy, people are undecided." Dr. Rundle: "People have a democratic right not to tell poll- sters how they are going to vote." Mr. Starr: "The quoted 36 percent undecided voters has now dropped to 11 percent, There is always a lack of ine terest until the last few day' before the election. Dr. Vipond: "The apathy may be due to this being the fourth federal election in seven years, a situation we would like to end. Mr. Gibson: "Tf an industrial dispute in Canada halted auto production would this mean the flow of parts and autos from the U.S. would cease?" U.S. FLOW REDUCED Dr. Vipond: "As the auto trade is based on an equal ex- change.of parts and material it would mean that the U.S. flow would be reduced over a period of time." Mr. Starr: "This would come under provincial labor laws." Mr. Endicott: 'How can the young person educate himself to vote properly?" ; Dr. Vipond: "This forum is an example, books, read Han- sard, get to know that candi- date and his election material." Mr. Starr: "I would study the issues, join the party and take an active part in that party." Dr. Rundle: "The party pol- icy doesn't necessarily reflect the way the candidate thinks. Meet and talk with him." Mr. Hodges: "Vote NDP." CAMPAIGN HQ ROUNDUP Vipond On 22-Mile Trek: Hodges Wires Chuvalo Ontario Riding candidates in the Nov. 8 federal election were hard at work today trying to woo voter support with just one week left. Liberal Dr. Claude H. Vipond trudged across the riding via No. 2 Highway in his bid to focus attention on the election and fight voter apathy. He was expected to finish about 3 p.m. when a_ motor- cade would carry him back through the southern. end of the riding. Sportsman and New Demo- cratic Party candidate Oliver Hodges in a non-political move -- wired fighter George Chuvalo at the latter's Wood- bridge training headquarters. He sent good wishes "for your victory'. Chuvalo faces Ernie the World Boxing Association heavyweight championship. Conservative candidate Mi- chael Starr shook hands at city industrial plant gates this mora- ing. Riding Conservativeq will travel to Uxbridge tonight where former Ontario premier Leslie Frost will speak in the town Legion Hall at a 'Mike Starr rally". Independent candidate Dr. James Edward Rundle was in the Ajax - Bay Ridges - Pick- ering area today, meeting voters and advertising his open public meeting Wednesday night in the Ajax High School Auditorium. In Canton last night, Durham Liberal candidate Russell C. Honey said the difficulties ex- perienced in Canada's parlia- ment in the last two years. were caused mainly because of the increase in strength of splinter parties. He said such parties such as the New Democrats, Social Credit and Creditistes have no chance of forming a government and, they deprive Liberals and Conservatives of a clear-cut ma- jority.