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"18 DAYS OF DEBATE Plan Opponents Dominate House By RONALD LEBEL OTTAWA (CP) -- Opposition crities of the Canada Pension Plan again dominated the scene Tuesday as the Commons droned through the 18th day of repetitious debate on the plan this year. The contributory scheme was approved in principle last No- vember but opposition has stif- fened since then and there is no er how Jong the debate st, Creditiste Leader Real Caou- ette said compulsory contribu- tions to the pension plan amount to a new form of tax- ation. He said his 13-man group will vote against the federal bill on third reading and cam- paign in Quebec against the similar provincial pension plan. He called for $100 monthly flat-rate pensions at age 60 and for the payment of dividends to all Canadians on the basis of Social Credit monetary theories expounded by the late Maj. C. H, Douglas. Contributory pen- sions smacked of Communist regimentation. Terry Nugent (PC--Edmon- ton Strathcona) and A. B. Pat- terson (SC--Fraser Valley) also criticized the compulsory fea- ture of the plan. At several points, the Com- mons appeared ready to pass clause one of the bill -- the title --and move on to third reading stage, but each time a Credit- iste MP popped up to keep the debate going. Mr. Caouette's views were echoed by five of his followers. The Creditistes obtained a three - day suspension of the when they complained that the French translation of the Sen- ate - Commons pension commit- tee report was not available, A crash translation was finished Monday. The government is anxious to pass the pension plan and the \stalled opting - out bill shortly so that the record-long session can be prorogued and a new one opened immediately after- ward. Tuesday was the 240th sitting of the current session, longer than the previous record session by 66 days. The opening of a new session would permit the government to unveil new legislation in the throne speech and the budget, George Chatterton (PC -- Esquimalt - Saanich) said small businessmen will suffer under the government plan, since they will be forced to contribute 1,8 per cent of the annual in- come of each employee. Steve Otto (L -- York East) jsaid the plan is portable and jwill increase productivity. Dis- |satisfied employees no longer would be tied to their jobs by private pension plans; they would switch to jobs more to |their liking and produce more. | He .also predicted that the {government plan will stimulate ithe private life insurance and 'pension businesses. Quebec Follows Ontario \pension debate last Wednesday| |" Sen. Robert Kennedy of New York looked upwards to Mt, Kennedy, 150 miles west of Whitehorse, Yukon Territory after his arrival at a base camp where he and a party of experienced mountain climbers began an assault on the mountain from early yesterday, Ken- With Voluntary Medicare By THE CANADIAN PRESS The Quebec government--fol- lowing Ontario's lead in volun- tary medical insurance -- an- nounced Tuesday in the legisla- ture that it will name a com- mittee to advise on a "complete plan of health insurance for Quebec as soon as possible." Premier Lesage said the committee would submit its findings to a joint committee of the assembly and the legislative council, the province's upper house. The premier said outside the house later the committee would be formed within 10 days, Today, a bill changing the name of the attorney-general's department to the department of justice is to receive first reading. Other legislatures considered the medical profession during sessions Tuesday. In Saskatchewan, an a resolution was adopted approv- ing the recommendations of the ded meet the standards required of| those receiving provincial gov-| ernment aid. | Highlights in other legisla- tures: Newfoundland -- Chief Jus- tice R. S. Furlong, acting lieu- tenant-governor, gave Royal as- sent to a government bill pro- viding for the guarantee of $40,- 000,000 in Newfoundland and Labrador power commission) bonds. Prince Edward Island--The |proposed formula to amend the |Canadian constitution was ap- proved unanimously. | New Brunswick -- Approval was given the setting up of a select committee to study the Labor Relations Act and recom- mended changes. The terms ot reference were not announced Manitoba -- Premier Roblin said legislation will be intro- duced soon to consider the ap- pointment of an ombudsman for the province. An ombudsman is an official who hears complaints Hall royal commission on health services and asking the federal government to pay half the costs of any provincial compre- hensive medical care program. In Nova Scotia, Health Min- ister Richard Donahoe said all municipal mental hospitals eventually may be forced to of citizens against the govern ment, British Columbia -- Premier Bennett said the federal govern- ment and Liberal senators acted in bad faith when they considered the province's bid to -- a Bank of British Colum- a. Ruto-Parts Maker, Drury ANOTHER WIN FOR RFK? medy hopes to be the first man to climb the 13,900-foot peak, named after Presi- dent John F. Kennedy, in memorial to his late broth- er. The party, led by Ever- est climber Jim Whittaker of Seattle, hopes to reach the summit today. --(AP Wirephoto) Clash Sharply Over 'Pact' TORONTO (CP)--A Canadian auto parts manufacturer and Industry Minister Drury ex- pressed sharply differing views Tuesday on the recent auto agreement between Canada and the United States. told a press conference the plan would spell ruin for independ- ent Canadian auto parts firms within two or three years if im- plemented as it now stands. Mr. Drury, in the same hotel on a different matter, told a later press conference Mr. Lov-| eridge appears to have a bssic misunderstanding of the aims of the scheme. He said that in studying the plan it is necessary to bear in mind it will mean a substantial increase in car production in Canada--"and this will mean a very substantial increase in jobs." Basically, the plan provides for duty-free exchanges of cars and original parts on the manu- facturers' level, subject to meet- ing certain cost and manufac- J. D. Loveridge, general man-| lager of Ingersoll Machine and| Tool Co. Ltd. in Ingersoll, Ont.,| spite Mr. Drury's previous statements about the plan pro- viding for increased Canadian production, car manufacturers will not be required to buy ad- ditional Canadian - made parts |for extra production. ASKED BID He said Chrysler Canada Ltd. had asked his plant to bid on producing 84,000 steering gear units for Valiants, to he sold in Canada and the U.S. Less than a month later, he said, he got a letter from Chrys- ler saying the parent company would supply units for Valiants to be built in Canada for U.S. consumption and the bid was to be reduced to 17,000. other increased costs, his plant will not be able to compete with U.S. plants. He added his argument is not with Chrysler--'twhich is only seeking to buy at the cheapest price possible, as any good busi- ness. does"--but with the auto plan that makes it possible for a Canadian plant to turn to U.S. parts manufacturers. | Mr. Drury, in town for a de-| The lower total volume, plus|more than half of the married means|women.in the work force are more |Communists in China or Rus-| sia." } Snow Threat May Hinder RFK's Climb WHITEHORSE, Y.T. (AP)-- Clouds, wind and a threat of snow descended on Mount Ken- nedy today as Senator Robert F. Kennedy, guided by expert mountaineers, prepared for his assault on the summit of the 13,900-foot peak. | It- was not believed the weather would endanger the success of the climb, but it did mean the New York Democra- tic senator might be pinned down at the base camp for a day or more after the descent. Kennedy has with him what is described as a furled black flag. Other members of the ex- pedition say no one has seen i! unfurled. It is believed Kennedy will place it at the summit as a memorial to his later brother, THE DAY IN OTTAWA By THE CANADIAN PRESS TUESDAY, March 23, 1965 The Commons returned to committee study of the sole remaining unpassed clause of the Canada Pension Plan. Creditiste Leader Caouette said his party will vote against the plan. The whole thing is just an- other device to get taxes from the people, he added. A. B. Patterson (SC--. Fraser Valley) said the com-'} pulsory aspect of the pension plan is repugnant. 2 Steve Otto (L--York East) predicted the plan would spur sales of private plans and life insurance, Terry Nugent_(PC--Edmon- ton Strathcona) said the pub- lic should be encouraged to invest in corporate stocks in- stead of the plan. Henri Latulippe (Creditiste President John F. Ki dy, for whom the Canadian government named the mountain. Kennedy and four other climbers left the 7,500-foot base camp at about 9 a.m. Tuesday and were presumed to have spent the night at a second camp 4,000 feet farther up the mountain, | There is no radio contact w'th) the climbers or the base camp. Reporters were able to fly to the area Tuesday and observed the climbers from the air. Ken- nedy and three others waved at a plane flying overhead. | A seasoned Whitehorse moun- jtaineer who followed the five) climbers part of the way, Monte) |Alford, said Kennedy was ex-) \periencing no difficulty on the \climb. The senator was tied by ja rope to two veterans of the |1963 American assault on Mount iEverest, James W. Whittaker of} /Seattle, and Barry Prahter of} Ellensburg, Wash. Dr. Bradford Washburn, who lorganized the expedition and iwill lead it in conducting sur- | vey work, said the final ascent |to the summit should take about \five hours. | Dr. Washburn is the director of ithe Boston Museum of Science, which is co-sponsoring the ex- pedition with the National Geo- graphic Society | Council Raps | . Working Moms OTTAWA (CP) -- Canadians) jare being iryesponsible and un- realistic in their approach to the |provision of adequate day care lfor the children of working mothers, the executive director lof the Canadian Welfare Coun- \cil said Tuesday. | Rueben C. Baetz of Ottawa ltold the annual meeting of the Ottawa Children's Aid Society lit is estimated that slightly | mothers of children 16 years of e or under, that in one way or another, these youngsters, in their crit- ical developing years, are re- tion they need, is being much) irresponsible than the} |Labor party. agi PE bss "To blithely go'un assuming ceiving the attention and affec-|] --Comp - Fr ) said the plan discriminates against the poor who need it most. WEDNESDAY, March 24 The Commons meets at 2:30 p.m. to continue the pension plan debate. The Senate stands adjourned until March 30. By HOWARD BENEDICT CAPE KENNEDY, Fla. (AP) With the flight of the 'Molly Brown", the United States gained a little ground in the! man-in-space race and opened the gates to a flood of astro- naut launchings in the years ahead, Astronauts Virgil Grissom and John Young took the Gem- ini space-craft up for a trial run Tuesday. They flew it. back- ward, forward, and upside down and executed the first orbital changes ever made by a manned spacecraft. There were a few minor dif- ficulties, but project officials pr d the t at craft ready to begin operational mis- sions on the next flight. Nine more Gemini flights are scheduled in the next two years. In June, astronauts James McDivitt and Edward White are THE OSHAWA TIMES, Wednesdey, Merch 24, 1965 3 to zoom into space for four days to further evaluate the capsule and to gather medical and scientific data. MeDivitt is to become the first U.S. astronaut to go at least partially out of his orbiting ship. Plans call for him to open his hatch and poke his head into space, However, some thought is being given to hav- ing him leave the craft on the end of a tether--just as cosmo- naut Alexei Leonoy did during a spectacular two-man Russian} shot last week. A Development of the extra-ve- hicular capability as wel! as an orbit-changing steerable space- craft are necessary before either Americans or Russians travel to the moon. U.S. officials have conceded that they trail the Soviet Union by about two years in the man- in-space sweepstakes. But Dr. Nevada Missile Testing Tories Win Close Vote | LONDON (Reuters) -- Brit-| ain's Opposition Conservative} party today won a key byelec-} tion in eastern England, but) with a reduced percentage of] the vote in favor of the ruling) A former Conservative junior} minister, Peter Kirk, won the! parliamentary seat for Saffron Walden: with a margin of 3,493 votes over the Labor party can- didate. Former foreign secretary R. A. Butler, whose elevation to the House of Lords brought on the election, had a 4,955-vote lead in the general election five months ago. The Labor share of the poll rose to 39.6 from 37.4 per cent, to provide a boost for Prime Minister Wilson's Labor govern-| ment. The Liberal candidate came last and lost his £150 deposit because he failed to gain one- eighth of the total votes cast. Kirk, a 36-year-old undersec- retary of state for defence (army) in the Conservative ad- ministration ousted by Labor in October, now takes over the constituency Butler held for 35 years, Figures in the vote: Peter Kirk (Conservative) 18,851; Michael Cornish (Labor) 15,358; Frank Moore (Liberal) 4,626. Present standings in the House of Commons: Labor 315, Conservatives 303, Liberals 9, WASHINGTON (AP) -- Far, beneath the Nevada desert, the! United States has developed means of simulating the alti:| tude conditions a_nuclear-tip-| ped missile would encounter it! detonated at nearly 100 miles) above the earth. This was learned in an inter | view with Brig.-Gen. Delmar ra Crowson, director of the Atomic Energy Commission's division of military application. He also said that deep-drill- ing techniques developed for underground nuclear tests at Nevada and elsewhere have aj rich potential pay-off for peace- time industry, especially the oil and construction industries, Crowson said one of the ma- jor techniques developed for underground testing is the carv- ing out of huge subterranean "rooms," with tunnels radiatwng from them, much like spokes of a wheel. These rooms range up to 900 cubic yards in size. Nearly all air can be pumped out of large-diameter pipes in the rooms to create vacuum conditions. And in the rooms, weapons devices can be deton- ated--and intact weapons ex- posed to the detonation of others --under conditions simulating an altitude of up to 400,000 or 500,000 feet. At the Nevada test site, he indicated, drill holes leading down to such labyrinths of rooms and tunnels are of depths and diameters unheard of up to several years ago--4,700 fect deep and more than six. feet in diameter. At a new testing site being Speaker J, vacant 2, total 630. developed, several "emplace- Simulates Space Blasts ment" holes ranging up to nearly a mile in depth are in various stages of completion. So are a number of explura- tory holes, one of which will be 13,670 feet deep--well over two miles. NDP Booklet Bothers MP OTTAWA (CP)--A Commons committee was ordered Tues- day to investigate a political pamphlet issued on behalf of the New Democratic Party that a Liberal MP charged is a re- flection on the integrity and im- partiality of Speaker Alan Mac- naughton. All parties supported. a mo- tion by John Munro (Hamilton East) to refer the matter to the privileges committee. Mr. Munro said the pamphlet, entitled Who Is Working for You?, was published by a po- litical action committee in Hamilton on behalf of the NDP. He said it contained a repro- duction of the cover of the Han- sard index--official record of Commons debates--along with the Canadian coat of arms and the Speaker's name. Speaker Macnaughton said he has seen lege was involved. was that it was issued with the sanction of the Commons, Mr, Munro said. the pamphlet and agreed that a question of privi- The inference in the pamphlet U.S. Man-Into-Space Race - Gains Ground With 'Molly' Robert Seamans,. associate ad- ministrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Adminis- tration, said the Grissom-Young flight narrowed the gap a bit. SEVEN-DAY TRIP After McDivitt and White take their four-day flight, astronauts L. Gordon Cooper and Charles Conrad are to make a seven- day flight which should provide available data on how man is affected by prolonged exposure to weightlessness. After that will come the vital rendezvous shot in which a two- man team will attempt to catch up and join with dnother orbit- ting satellite, This space dock- ing manoeuvre must be de- veloped before man ventures to the moon and planets. Six gemini rendezvous flights are planned. Dr. George E. Mueller, NASA associate administrator for manned space flight, said Gem- ini flights will occur at two to three-month intervals. He pre- dicted a total of 25 manned space shots from Cape Ken- nedy in the next four to five years, including the first Apollo manned lunar landings. He. said. that following the completion of Gemini, manned space flight emphasis will shift to earth orbit flights of the three - man Apollo moonship. He said these will begin in 1967. "In 1968, we expect to begin manried flights of the Saturn V --and some time in 1069 we ex- pect to be ready for the his- toric flight that will take the first Americans to the surface of the moon and back." TRANS CANADA CREDIT al STUNNING | LOANS OLCOMON iectnauitiints Mlle ines sign-awards dinner sponsored) 'while the Communists have sponsored by the Canadianimade extensive arrangements) steel construction industry, said|for children whose mothers that although Ingersoll Tool had| were in the working force,| riage peti was no provision|through the establishment of r : in the scheme for increasin ies," i questionnaire he sent out to 168 Canadian production as. the eg ache om ae pai members of the Automotive nadian market grew," in fact vaiabsanite for day care, or to Parts Manufacturing Associa-|the Canadian production must go about meeting it in " half- tion of Canada indicate most/increase to a comparable de-|hearted and almost. schizo- aircraft difficulties at Winnipeg|are unhappy about the scheme's| gee." | ele manner ie and could not get back to Ot-|provisions. Asked whether the plan will | only one province, namely| tawa in time for a statement to} He said the plan means his;mean any Canadian parts plantsigntario " provides grants to the House. company will have te pull out|may have to close down, Mr. | municipalities to run day care Mr. Nicholson would make|of auto. parts manufacturing if|Drury said Canada is moving|nurseries. Few municipalities the statement today. instead. |it is not revised. through a period of change,|naye. however, taken advan- Prof. Sibley arrived at Win-| Ingersoll Tool employs 350/looking to increased efficiency. |tage of the grants and regula- nipeg by air from the U.S. Fri-|persons in its parts plant, mak- "Those unwilling to change|tions coveri ng standards of day to fill a speaking engage-|ing mostly steering-gear assem-|Will be left behind," he said. |gperation for day care nurser- ment sponsored by the Voice of|blies. It also turns out tractor) ~~ ies are virtually non - existent. Women. Immigration officers|axles and a subsidiary firm em-| BUSY TRAFFIC Here, surely, is a_ situation questioned him at the airport|ployees 450 persons in Inger-| In 1849, the year of the Cali-|which demands active inter- and he returned to the U.S. on/soll making nuts and bolts. jfornia gold rush, 100,000 people vention by all interested in the aircraft that brought him.! Mr. Loveridge said that, de-|travelled west to the territory. |child welfare." : | turing criteria in the 1964-model year, which is used as a base. OUTLINES OPPOSITION Mr. Loveridge said at a press conference that replies to a Wy OPEN STOCK SECTIONAL PIECES Genuine "Formica" tops -- Superior Construction Diefenbaker Roasts PM Dt On Professor's Ousting OTTAWA (CP)--Prime Min- ister Pearson said Tuesday that as far as he can recall he re- ceived last Friday morning the) first telegram protesting an im-| migration department decision! to bar American professor Mul-| ford Q. Sibley from Canada. He was pressed in the Com- mons by Opposition Leader Diefenbaker and Eric Winkler (PC -- Gre y- Bruce) about a telegram the Voice of Women said they sent to him from Win- nipeg last Thursday night. Mr. Diefenbaker also asked why Mr. Pearson had "'insuf- ficient information" from the immigration department when the matter was first brought up in the Commons Friday. Mr. Pearson said he got a file on the Sibley case from the immigration department at the luncheon hour Friday after the questions were raised in the House. ASKS ABOUT ORDER The Opposition leader de- manded to know whether Mr. Pearson was told that an order barring Prof. Sibley from Can- ada had been issued Thursday. The prime minister repeated) that he knew nothing of the case until Friday noon. "It was not factual,' Mr. Diefenbaker said of the inform- ation the prime minister gave! 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