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Oshawa Times (1958-), 10 Mar 1964, p. 9

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BEARSKIN CUTTER ROBE PRESENTED TO MUSEUM museum is Douglas Fisher, general manager. The rug, which had been in the Conant household for many years, was eer Mrs. G. D. Conant visited the Canadian Automotive Museum Monday and pre- sented a bear skin cutter robe Board Defeats Motion To Record Meetings I'd want to see rules madejidea '"has-a degree of merit".' which would apply to all meet-/The board learned that tapes, ings,' commented Trustee Dr.|for the proposed machine would A. E. O'Neill, jcost $4.45 each for a two-hour Trustee George Drynan 'said recording. he would like to see recordings! made "because it might cause| HOW BOARD VOTED |trustees to use restraint in de-| Trustee Mrs. Margaret Shaw bate and so cut down on the moved that recordings be made length of discussions." He added|of all meetings. On a recorded ! presented to the museum on a permanent loan basis. --Oshawa Times Photo to the museum to be placed on a cutter of the early 1900's now on exhibition. Accepting the rug on behalf of the 'Jail Driver 14 Days An Oshawa man, whose car veered into five other autos A proposal to tape record all parked near GM's No. 11 gate regular board meetings and committee meetings was defeat- ed on a tie vote Monday night by the Oshawa Board of Educa- tion. On the public relations com- mittee agenda the board was asked to consider purchasing a $225 tape recorder. Trustee George Fletcher said he felt tapes would increase the effi- ciency in recording meetings and serve to remind trustees of, what they said on certain topics. Public Relations Committee Chairman Leo Glover said he felt the system could be abused. Unless proper precuations were taken, WANTS RULES "TI think it's a good idea but Burns Out Engine On.Mercy Journey Despite a 110-mile-per-hour|ileostomy, a gas gangrenous in- dash to supply anti-toxin serum,| fection of the bowels. an Oshawa man, Donald Wilfred McDougall, died Monday at the|BURNED OUT ENGINE Oshawa General Hospital of @) An emergency call was made! gas gangrene infection. |to Toronto as the OGH had only! A Toronto taxi-driver, John|sufficient serum to treat Mr. (Jock) Hamilfon, burned out the| McDougall for three hours. Mr. licence suspension. William Johnston, 513 Ross- land road east, pleaded not guilty to a drunk driving charge laid after the accident. victed Johnston on a reduced charge of impaired driving. Constable E. H. Kerr told shawa Magistrate's Court he investigated an accident on Rit- son road. north cars -- one of them the cused's. The officer testified this would leave more time for|yote, Trustees William Werry, the board to discuss general/Mrs. Shaw, O'Neill, Drynan and education problems rather)Fletcher favored' the motion, than 'day to day problems'. |with Trustees Glover, Mrs. Commented Trustee Robert)C. C. Lee, E.-A. Bassett, Nicol Nicol: 'We could make long|and Stanley Lovell in opposition. playing records and sell them.") Trustee Saywell abstained. Further investigation into the! The board approved Trustee, matter was recommended by|Drynan's motion that the mat- Trustee Stephen Saywell. Helter be referred to the public Ty nese rom! SS as said details of cost should be/lations committee for investi- dna his eves on blood h ie considered, but added the' gation. | aoe eee shot. Police Check 2 Accidents 1 A two-car accident at the! Oshawa Shopping Centre Mon-| day caused an estimated $230 damage. A vehicle driven by| William A. Ridgely, of 986 King | 2"4 reduce the charge. street east, was involved in the| Magistrate Ebbs said accident with a car driven by| Would have to take a previ Edward A. Johns, of 247 Edward|°Mviction into account wi street. {sentencing the accused. An estimated $80 damage was done to the front end of the Ridgely vehicle and an esti- mated $150 damage was caused to the front end of the Johns vehicle. Rush-hour traffic on Simcoe |street north was held up Mon- { that to the police station he was sleepy so that "I had to re- peat questions to him." The sengeant said the ac- cused properly performed a co- [oemonter test and his balance was "'sure;"' his turning "fair". After hearing from Johnston's counsel, T. H. Greer, the mag- istrate said he would give the man the benefit of the doubt ous hen '| sistance 'Jan. 30 causing $440 worth of damage, was: Monday jailed for 14 days and suffered a one-year Magistrate F. S. Ebbs con- involving six! Strongly of ge and an esti-; vehicle suffer-;ed by representatives from the 15 clubs in the area and will mage was done!giye the clubs the opportunity nd of the Phil- to discuss their activities and projects, and hear how the ser- vice organization is developing in other communities, The business sessions will be| Advantages Of Centre Stressed She Oshawa imes | SECOND SECTION OSHAWA, ONTARIO, TUESDAY, MARCH 10, 1964 PAGE NINE The advantages of having a mental health centre in a com- munity were stressed here Mon- day by Dr. H, William Hender- son, director of Community Mental Health Services, On- tario Department of Health. Dr. Henderson was address- ing' the nieeting of the Rotary Club of Oshawa. He was intro- duced by Rotarian Gilbert L. Murdoch. The appreciation of the club and its guests was voiced by Rotarian Dr. Claude Vipond. It was stated that the setting up of a mental health centre means that those suffering from mental disorders have access to early diagnosis and can stay on the job in their own commun- ity. Such a centre is also of as- to local physicians, enables schools to assess those who are not doing well and aids courts and magistrates in their duty to assess and dispose of problem cases. ; Due to the fact that mental illness represents many types of disorders involving many de- grees of disability, it is impor- tant to have continuity of care and to have a diagnostic and treatment centre close at hand. A community mental health cen tre also allowed more. to be treated at the out-patient level than ever before. It also per- mitted the centralization of re- cords at the local level and. pro- moted the synchronization of ef- fort through the centre. Dr. Henderson praised the work done by the local unit, saying the clinic followed the provincial pattern. The Oshawa General Hospital also recognizes its position in the field of diag- nosis and treatment; while the Ontario Hospital at Whitby is also an advantage. "No specific service can serve 'all the needs of the commun- ity without the support of all sections of the community," Dr. Henderson said. Bowmanvill Recreation Chief Quits | BOWMANVILLE (Staff) --| | | | Sergeant James Taylor said/Town Recreation Director Doug|if the music teachers | when the accused was brought| Riggs tendered his resignation|leaving because the music fa-| Monday. | | This was confirmed today by| committee chairman Pau! Chant. It is understood the resi | tion takes effect April 6. iggs, who has served as| |Bowmanville's recreation chief} |for nine years, will move to | Oakville in a similar capacity.| He was unobtainable for com-| ment this morning but his wife| gna-| he/said that the move would be|cision to change jobs was due |"a substantial jfor her husband. She indicated that Mr. Riggs would have several full-time} | assistants working under his | direction in the new post. In |Bowmanville, he works alone. | } Mrs. Riggs said that to her | knowledge, the move had not| : been prompted by any friction with the town administration. | "We have many friends in| town and we're going to mibal them," she added. | Prior to holding the post in| ,Bowmanville, Riggs was Assist-| ant Recreation Director in Osh-!| advancement" | -; awa. He also worked for some | The conference will be attend-, time with Stratford's tion Department. Recrea- TO STRAIGHTEN OSHAWA CREEK Creek straightening on the Oshawa Board of Education property south of Gibb street |legiate and Vocational Institute, {and F. J. Francis of McLaugh- | April 8 and 9, the company announced today Department of Industry Commerce, the Opportunities Show is designed to encourage their communitie: A rule which does not permit ings. In this way they gain valuable experience in leader- ship training. The Kinsmen Clubs. across, Canada have engaged in serv-| ing the welfare requirements of s for 44 years. | | | will begin immediately. | The land, which is now under| 'expropriation, will provide a |playfield for the Oshawa Cen tral Collegiate Institute. A cu |rent expansion program at OCCI 'required that the former cam- |pus be used for a school addi- tion. Trustee E. A. Bassett, chair- General Motors of Canada 8amization with a membership|man of the building and plan- gress and there is a chance jwill display more than 100 auto-/°f 12,000 young men in 400 com-ining committee, |motive parts not now available|Munities. The country is divid-|board Monday night that w \from Canadian sources at the|¢d into eight districts which injon the creek site should begin) 'Manitoba Manufacturing Oppor- turn are divided into several'immediately. A $25,000 budget! tunities Show in Winnipeg on 20nes. the ork| advised has been set to cover the cost of straightening the creek and |2-man who has reached the age levelling the property. Sponsored--by..the province's|9! 40 to hold office in the asso-| and ciation provides the opportun- | jity for young men to learn the' |fundamentals of parliamentary the expansion of secondary in-|Procedure in conducting meet- | | | 30 Percent Of Labor Force Now Females OTTAWA (CP)--Growing par- r- work and had started a JUNIOR CHAMBER OFCom- merce officials meet the guest speaker and an honored guest, Monday night, at a special dinner meeting at which mem- "Teachers Of Music Leave Letters of resignation were received Monday night by the Oshawa Board of Education from music department heads of two high schools. The board learned that E. A. Walker of Oshawa Central Col- lin Collegiate. and Vocational Institute, have accepted posi- tions outside the Oshawa sys- tem. Trustee Robert Nicol asked| were cilities in Oshawa "'aren't up| to par." OCCI Principal Harrison Mur- phy said he felt there were many reasons for Mr. Wink- Commerce, bers invited their bosses. From left to right, they are Kin Dillane, program chair- man, Oakah Jones, president Consumer Gas and guest speaker, Charles World, past president Chamber of Com- merce and District manager for Consumer Gas, and Vie Brookes, president, Junior Chamber of Commerce. --Oshawa Times Photo Bosses Entertained By Oshawa Jaycees Young Canadian men must show an ability to speak their| minds and make _ decisions,| Oakah L. Jones, president and' generai manager of The Con-| sumers' Gas Co., Monday night, | told the monthly meeting | Oshawa Junior Chamber of The Chamber was holding its annual bosses night at which| members invite their bosses. Mr. Jones said: "Too many older business men have urged! young men to wait until they are older before putting forward ideas, EVERYONE LISTENS rightful place in the world it will be because the old listen to the young and the young listen to the old." He urged the Jaycees to bat- tle for the things they believed gra in, Being president of a com- pany was an easy job because jyou do not have to worry what} the boss thinks ideas, he said, "Nothing can rile -a man more than not being able to get a decision from his boss," Mr. Jones said, He ended: "Every good boss is also a good teacher." about your President Vic Brookes said "When Canada assumes itsithe Oshawa Jaycees now had '§1 members and were aiming to get 64 this year. | Ten leading Oshawa business }eoncerns, placed displays of itheir products at the meeting. |They were judged by the pro- |gram committee. Prizes were jawarded to Vic Brookes, Bank lof Nova Scotia; Bill Giddings, Dempster's Bread Limited and 'Don Netley, Canadian Tire Cor- |/poration Associate Store, | Head table guests were: |Stuart Roblin, Fred Ball, Ken Jenkins, Pete Cote, Doug Fish- er, Roger Garden, Vic Brook- es, Oakah Jones, Brian Simp- son, Garth Hines, Charles World, Don Netley and Fred Smith. ler's decision to leave, includ- ing better money and newer equipment. "I'regret the loss of Mr. Winkler. He has been a great help in the music pro- gram of OCCI," he said. MCVI Principal George Rob- erts said that Mr. Francis' de- to the same reasons. Other teachers whé tendered resignations were, from MCVI,| Miss Anne. F. Uffelman and| . J. Wilkins, and from Done-| van Collegiate Institute, Miss| Barbara Priddle, Accused Fined | For Assault A 22-year-old Cochrane, Ont., man was Monday fined $25 or 10 days in jail for assault. James P. Jourdain, now liv-} ing at 25 Division street, was| also given a one year suspend-| ed sentence and placed on pro-| baiton on four other charges; involving theft and causing damage to autos, Oshawa Magistrate's Court was told last week that Jour- dain forced car windows with intent to steal. On one occa-| sion, the court was told, a car-| owner was kicked after he found| Jourdain in his ear, The accused told Magistrate F, S. Ebbs Monday that he came to Oshawa to look for gov- in ernment welding Magistrate Ebbs said a re- port from Jourdain's instructor said he was making good pro-| | training course Jourdain could be placed in a job in Hamilton. Hold Woman In Loses Licence |\Yeqr Reviewed For One Year. | A man with a 27-year acci-| dent-free driving record was) jailed for seven days in Oshawa Magistrate's Court Monday. By Scout Group | The efforts put forth by the, The district executive com- Lloyd Haynes, 407 Phillip/mothers of the 26th Oshawa|missioner, Mr. Richardson, the Murray avenue, also lost his! driver's licence for one year) after being convicted of drunk' driving Sept. 26, 1963. | Constable R. McHugh testified that he stopped a car which had suffered recent damage and found the accused with 'glassy eyes and unsteady on _ his feet". Youth Is Fined $50 Or One Month A 17-year-old Oshawa youth, charged with driving while his licence was suspended, was fined $50 or one month in jail in Oshawa Magistrate's Court Monday, Louis Casha, 373 Highland avenue, produced a_ licence when he was stopped, police said, but his father said two registered letters had been re- ceived notifying the youth of his suspension. Casha's record, fead court, revealed speeding, ing to notify the Department of Transport of a change in ad- dress, and failure to provide proof cf insurance, charges. the Dept. Answers Three Fire Calls The Oshawa Fire Department) Scouts, provided a _ delicious roast beef dinner for the fathers and sons last Saturday evening at Camp Samac. The atmosphere of the Coun- cil Hall was resplendant with the emblematic decor. Head table guests, introduced by the president of the Group Committee, were: William Parker, Cubmaster; Charles Hester, sexton of St. Peter's Anglican Church; Mrs. George M. Peters, president of the 26th Oshawa. Scout Mothers' Auxiliary; Stanley Richardson, Scout Executive Commissioner; Alex Sitnyk, chairman; Dennis Sitnyk, chairman's son; Rev. L. Ware, rector of St. Peter's Anglican Church; Mrs. G. M. Vamum, president of Ladies' Auxiliary, District Committee and Reg. Skelton, Scoutmaster, On welcoming the fathers, sons and guests, chairman Sit- nyk called on Mr. Ware, who said Grace. A sing song was enjoyed, led by the Akela Bill Parker. Greetings from the District Committee of Oshawa was ex- pressed by Mrs. G. N. Varnum. NEED CO-OPERATION In addressing the fathers and sons, Mr. Ware said there was a need of close co-operation be- tween fathers, sons, and scout- leaders. Unity should be foster- ed in the organization of scout- ing in order to train our youth) jresponded to three fire calls|of today into men of the future: Possession Case An attractive 21-year-old wom an was remanded to Mar. 16 on a possession of charge in Oshawa Magistrate's| ;Court, Monday, No plea was|T taken. Bail was set at $1,000 for, Sharon Walsh, of no fixed ad-| dress, who was arrested in an| Oshawa motel late Sunday} night. | Monday. jover on the \Perry, 46 Rossland road east. ~jcaused considerable smoke \fore stolen goods)flames. ened buildings nearby with A pan which boiled! stove of H. '| | 7 5 be-| firefighters doused the! A flaming tree at the old| hornton's road school threat-| sparks and embers before the Oshawa department blaze. Firefighters also attended to| quelled the Reg. Skelton, Scoutmaster, gave a report on a_ successful year of activity with the Troop. Mr. Al Shearing, assisting Scoutmaster, was also intro- duced, Wm. Parker, Cubmaster, gave a resume on the Cubaree| jand announced that two ribbons| were awarded the 26th Pack. The Akela extended an invita- tion tq all fathers to come out to any meeting night to watch, guest speaker, commended Mr; Ellis on his work. The tribute to Lord Baden-Powell of Gilwell, founder of the Boy Scout and Girl Guide Movements,. was expressed, Mr. Richardson said the keys to happiness and brother- hood were the doors unlocked to scouts through their laws, the Scouter's Law; the heri- tage which has grown to inter- national breadth. In Canada, he went on, we are all Canadians and should apply friendship and brother- hood as our -key role to make for a better Canada. "My Won- \derful Boy," a meaningful and timely poem, was read in con- clusion. F. J. Grant thanked the guest speaker. Entertainment was provided by the "Two Spuds and a Dud," Mr. Jim Hutcheson, Mr. Mike Mackay and Mr. John Gower from the 7th Oshawa Rover \Crew. 'Sentence Youth To Year Term A 16-year-old, RR 3, Bowman- ville, youth was Monday sen- tenced. to one year definite and three months indefinite after last week being convicted of six breaking, entering and theft | charges. Donald Francis Thompson, whose weeping parents were in Oshawa Magistrate's Court sentence was handed down, was when sentence was handed down, was told. by Magistrate F, S. Ebbs: "IT will recommend that you go to the boy's training school in Brampton to see if they can straighten you out." Brooklin Duplicate |----- acaeaene a burning chimney at the resi- Attorney gen said |ticipation of females in the Ca- nadian labor force is. reflected G in 1961 census figures issued to- ce. of J. Mahoney, 781 Park! thé! road south. Acting Crown eorge Boychyn or assist with the Cubs. Miss THREE DEFY BAN Donna Hobbs, Raksha, Mr. Gil) Bridge Club Scores c CAIRO (AP)--Australian Ten-| day by the bureau of statistics. and Madonna Sacht, who also GM of Canada spent $960,000} won their first-round singles in Manitoba during 1963 for|matches. They are ignoring an engine of his 1961 model cab as|Hamilton started out with Toronto. 401 at speeds in excess of 110 Oshawa Rally |car collision at the intersection) announ jemergency call was made. northbound car driven by Ever-jwill be held March 13 and 14 An Oshawa man, who Mon- catch up with him. \to the front e Magistrate F. S. Ebbs toldjand pounded a piston until it GM To Show ports the conference will pro- menace on the highway. work until Wednesday. M months and his licence sus-|get insurance against mechan-| the accused had "bloodshot ing convictions. onions. They are appealing to) onion crops began to flourish| Manitoba of more of the com-| P eit by UK housewives. jtive parts by GM_ includes arship fund, to be known as the) tario Agricultural College,| Richard Goodin. secretary|Ponents. All are rare items!showed up at the Cairo inter- ' president of Beaton Dairy Pred |ing this appeal to Oshawa-cause of price and low volume!a shaky first match defeating in dairy science at the OAC|' "We must try to sell the ernment. School. of the dairy industey for nce onion recipes." goods and services and wages.|LTA rule which prohibits for- a he rushed the serum from the|police escort minutes after the Ki Pl Ly Connaught Medical Research|call was' received. | In anning Laboratories of the University of) yy, travelled along Highway Dr. J. T. G, Maroosis, attend-|miles-per-hour until the engine ing physician vera erage |b ap out near the Liverpool The president of the Ki said that his patient died about)road cut-off. A passing motorist ; s e Kinsmen an hour after the tera was picked up ue Hamilton and day afternoon following a two-|Club ay sg sarge received, Mr. McDouga' €-lcontinued to Oshawa at to : F , oday that that the came seriously ill Sunday. with speed, of Richmond and Simcoe streets.| Whitby Club will act as host at The serum was delivered to! An eastbound vehicle driven|the Zone C Spring Conference. the OGH 35 minutes after the/PY Reginald Hughes, of 435|Murray Silver of' the Whitby . . F Me!Simeoe street north, was in-\Club is in charge of the ar t icence volved in the accident with ajrangements for thr rally which JOUTSPED ESCORT ett O. Phillips, of 126 Lauder|at Hotel Genosha. | Mr. Hamilton sped past an road. ' ee ears jOntario Provincial Police escort! The Hughes which was scheduled to méet/eq minor dama; him at Rouge Hill, It failed to| mated $50 da " t day was convicted for the third) wr. tfamilton said today that! lip's car, time of drunk driving, was told|ne would have to pay $600 to|__ ao in Oshawa Magistrate's Court/have the engine repaired. 'I that he is a menace on the/have never seen anything like highway. lit," ; "Ay y: it," he stated. "'A valve broke chaired by Ji*. Gartshore, of Mikalaj Kaschabub, 159 Wil-/broke off at the ring base. Then| the Whitby club, who is Zone son road south: the engine block cracked." District Governor. : "We haven't had a triple-/ He added that as he was a} Auto Parts In addition to hearing club re- header in here for a long time|self-employed driyer using his ¢ ¢ . and you are obviously a'own car he could not return to jvide the opportunity for the Mr. I Wi s clubs to elect a deputy governor A ica six| Hamilton said that he could not| for the 1964-65 club year. Rasoienn. wes {allen for six n innipeg The Association of Kinsmen pended for three years. ical breakdowns, Clubs is a purely Canadian or- Constable Leo Thompson said Sed aay he chased a car along Olive avenue Feb. 15 "at a high rate S k T B of speed" and later observed ee 0 oost . eyes and staggered." | S$ l Of On Acting Crown Attorney a es 10 George Boychyn sai a dosed aa Fe gels The. Ontario Food Council is} aside from previous drunk driv-|cTying over 450,000 bags of - 'e citizens of Oshawa to eat! : iree more pounds of onions s aan usual during the next three : ; 0 a Ip O months, petal in the province 'and to! _| fin immediate opportunities Promote S d Trouble stayted when the UK|for the manufacture within tu Y hast year. Normally the 50 ponents and : f | products used by ; : pound bags the council has on! Canada's industries The Canadian Dairy and Ice|its hands would have been on x industries, Cream Journal, in its February! |The display of small automo- issue, announced that a schol- ; If the dinner plates of On-|stampings, die castings, mould-| J. Lewis Beaton Scholarship,|tario fail. to take the extrajings, forgings as well as elec-| has been established at the On-| Onions they will be wasted. ltrical, plastic and rubber com-\nis rebel Martin Mulligan Guelph. : of the council, which is- attach-\Which GM has so far found|natioal tournament Monday in The scholarship has been es-/ed to the Ontario Department of 2ecessary to buy from other|defiance of an Australian Lawn tablished by Mr. Beaton, former Agriculture, said: "I am mak-|than Canadian suppliers be-|Tennis Association ban and had uets Limited, Oshawa, for the|housewives for the good of the|d¢mand. The company has|Allan Mills of Britain 6-3. 5-7 purpose of helping' deserving! province. , taken part in similar' shows| 6-4. Mulligan is travelling' with students to pursue their studies! sponsored by the Ontario Govy- Dairy jextra onions. In each of the Through the generosity of Mr.|>288 we have in chain stores| Beaton, a well known member|2"4 Shops there are special| years, the sum of $10,000 ha He added hope'ully: "Onicn -- set aside for the scholar- are very good for colds ip. ing by six other General Mo-/3! Roy Emerson and Ken Filet and|tors companies in Canada or by|cher have drawn. suspensions leettle the nerves, you know."'GM dealers. {for similar actions, y esd a jfellow Australians Jan Lehane]! This total did not include spend-|¢'gn comnetition prior to March| } | Female members of the labor| \force have increased over the jlast 50 years from 16 per cent store theft which is still under harges related to a jewelry investigation, of the female population 15) years of age and over in 1911) to close to 30 per cent in 1961 Over the same period male} abor force participation has de-| creased from almost 90 per "ger | | of the population 15 years of jage and over in 1911 to-78 per jcent in 1961. Labor force participation rate jfor all persons 15 years and| jover has decreased slightly! lfrom 56 per cent to 54, | CELEBRATING BIRTHDAYS" Congratulations and. best wishes to the following resi- dents of Oshawa and district who is celebrating his birth- day today: Brad Nicholls, 1239. Mea- dowvale, 1239 Meadow- vale street. Phone 723-3474 1 Oshavyva jmale 21; minor surgery, 101; | nose and throat, 64; treatments|strong organization of the 26th) and examinations, 20; |832; 'therapy, 192. There were five routine ambu- HOSPITAL REPORT Following is he report of the! General Hospital for} the week ending March 7: ad- 208; physiotherapy visits, 580; casts,|Oshawa treatments,|tumultuouis rouad of occupational|followed this presentation by bonspiel last Saturday at Lind- 'Mr. Cyr, Baloo, Mr. Bill Epworth, jlance calls and one accident|/Bagerra and the District Cub- feall. master, George Hester, introduced. were. TROPHY PRESENTED The highlight of the evening and.a great surprise on behalf missions, 347; births, male 26,/0f the group followed, when female 37; discharges, 358; new-|George Ellis was presented born discharges, male 38, fe-|with a trophy for his sincere major surgery, 102;|/and eye, ear,| building in al tireless _ contribution and maintaining Al | Movement. applause Scout . Parker The winners and high scores of the games played by the members of the Brooklin Dupli- jcate Bridge Club: ' Mrs, W. Heron and Mrs. Mor- ris, 43; Mrs. R. Heron and J, Patterson, 391; Mr. and Mrs, G, Glover, 39%; Mrs. Hunter and R. Niglis, 38; C. Nelson and |W. Soetens, 3744; Mrs. Vick |and W. Heron, 37%. WIN CURLING TROPHY An Oshawa rink skipped by Ross Mills won the Grey and Victoria Trophy ih a_ curling Say.

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