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o 2 THE OSHAWA TIMES, Friday, October 18, 1963 PRICE SHOWS COLLECTION Vincent Price, noted actor and art collector, points out "Trapeze", an oil painting by Riopelle internationally- known Canadian artist. The painting, part of the Price art collection, sold for $7,200. Mr. Price was in Ottawa Thurs- day, for a showing of his art collection at a department store. --(CP Wirephcto) Fiery Caouette Says Thompson Made Deals By DON HANRIGHT OTTAWA (CP) -- Shoving aside some of the top public business of the session, the Commons spent a full day "Thursday in an embittered, ac- . rimonious wrangle over who is , to sit where. Despite extended hours -- voted for on the grounds that more time is needed to clean up mational affairs -- practically - nothing was resolved. The de- . bate resumes today. At the centre was Real Ca- ouette, demanding on the basis of democracy and justice that he and his 12 breakaway Cred- | itistes be seated as a group in a separate and superior position : to the remaining 11 members of . the Social Credit party under Robert Thompson. "We have the majority," he - exhorted the House, _"Recog- nize it. That's all we ask." He was the yoluble Caouette of old, with a fire and flourish that gave no hint of a recent illness. He accused the Liberals of refusing formal recognition of his group because Mr. Thomp- son had promised unconditional support for the Liberals at the next election. Mr. Thompson, still sharing a desk with his former deputy party leader, de- nied it. REPORT AT STAKE A stake was the report of the House committee on privileges and elections which, on the ba- sis of seniority rather than nu- merical strength, recommended seating the opposition in this or- der on the Speaker's left: First, the Conservatives--the official Opposition party. Then the New Democratic Party, fol- lowed by the Social Credit "party" led by Mr. Thompson, and finally--in the far corner "group" led by Mr. Caouette. As for privileges in debate and on other procedure for the Caouette group, the committee recommended that this be re- Postmaster Said 'Misleading Party OTTAWA (CP)--Postmaster- General Denis was accused in * the Commons Thursday of mis- leading the House with a denial * of the existence of a document listing defeated Liberal candi- dates as "consultants." , Eric Winkler, chief opposition whip, levelled the charge at the > opening of Thursday's sitting. . He added that Mr. Denis also * misled State Secretary Pickers- £ gill on the subject with the re- > gult that Mr. Pickersgill denied > the existence of such a docu- « ment too. * Mr. Winkler, MP for Grey- + Bruce, proposed a motion to ~ have the document tabled in the ~« Commons. He was speaking on * a question of privilege. Speaker Alan Macnaughton, at the suggestion of former > speaker Marcel Lambert (PC-- ~ Edmonton West), reserved de- ¢ cision on both Mr. Winkler's charge and on whether Mr. > Winkler's motion was in order. 'Mr. Winkler identified the - document by reading a descrip- , tion of the instructions on it « which stated that letters ad- * dressed to those named in the - list were to be submitted for Mr. Denis' signature. ORLIKOW STARTED IT The existence of the document came into question Wednesday when David Orlikow (NDP-- Winnipeg North) moved that the government be required to sup- ply '"'a list of consultants pre- pared in the office of the post- master-general for the guidance of cabinet ministers and copies of all correspondence between ministers of the Crown and the consultants in each riding." Mr. Denis said at that time he sent out no such list for the guidance of cabinet ministers, adding 'therefore I do not think we should answer in regard to something that does not exist." In response to Mr. Orlikow's question, Mr. Denis Jater filed a written ly saying the same thing: "There is no such list and therefore no such corres- lence," Thursday, Mr. Winkler re- ferred to remarks Wednesday by Mr. Denis and Mr. Pickers- § ¥ Mg "~ rt te the bene- of the House I have such a dociiment before me." : To Mr. Winkler's suggestion that he table it, Speaker Mac- naughton replied that it was not a public document. Mr. Winkler said the impor- tant point was that the minis- ters misled the House about the document. He asked unanimous consent of the House to table it. Mr. Pickersgill said he had no objection personally to the document held by Mr. Winkler being tabled but such a step might lead to a lot of MPs tak- ing a similar course. Mr. Wink- ler should make a motion on the basis of his point of privilege. Speaker Macnaughton said 'that if action was required on a point of privilege an MP should make a motion. Mr. Winkler thereupon moved that the docu- ment be tabled. Mr. Lambert. suggested Speaker Macnaughton reserve his decision. Speaker Mac- naughton agreed. New Democratic Leader Douglas suggested Mr. Winkler identify the document and Mr. Winkler read out the instruc- tions about addressing letters. Ex UN Officer Can Present Evidence QUEBEC (CP) -- Joseph-Da- mase Begin, 63, former Union Nationale cabinet minister, Thursday was sent to voluntary statement Oct. 24 on eight of 11 fraud charges involving use of public money. Voluntary statement is a stage of Quebec judicial proce- present evidence. Only eight of the charges were heard during preliminary hearing Thursday. It was not known when the others would be brought up. Begin has been charged with 11 counts of fraud and two of conspiracy to defraud the prov- ince of a total $95,000. The charges were laid following a report by the Salvas royal com- mission which investigated pur- Union Nationale government be- tween 1955 and 1960. Four other men also face fraud charges as a result of the report. Begin is now a business- man at Sfp. Germaine, Que. He resigned from politics last year after 22 years in the legislature. He was former colonization minister and chief organizer of the Union Nationale. The fraud charges involve the payment of kickbacks to citi- zens through false commissions on. sales by private companies to the government. dure at which the accused may, chasing practices of the former ferred to parliamentary law counsel Dr. Maurice Olliviere, who in his 40 years as a law clerk has never been asked to do such a thing. Stanley Knowles (NDP--Win- nipeg North Centre) moved an améndment that would kill the committee report and instruct the committee to make a second report seating the Creditistes ahead of the Thompson group-- and the NDP ahead of both, Opposition Leader Diefenba- ker added to this a sub-amend- ment that would wipe out the reference to provileges and Dr. Ollivier, TIME RUNS OUT So prolonged was the argu- ment -- despite an extra 1% hours added to the day's sitting by a government motion ear- of the House now occupied by|lier Thursday--that time ran|College of Pharmacists warned the 17 New Democrats--the|out after a roll-call vote on Mr.|Thursday that disrespect of the Diefenbaker's sub - amend- aga It was defeated 108 to The vote breakdown: Sixty-four Conservatives voted for the sub-amendment along with the full 13-member slate of Creditistes and the 12 New Democrats then in the House. Arrayed against it were 99 Lib- erals and nine Social Crediters. Two Liberals and a Conserva- tive were paired and did not vote. Absent were 27 Liberals, 20 Conservatives, two Social Credit and five NDP. Today, Mr. Knowles' amend- ment and the main motion are at stake. HAVE THEIR RIGHTS Mr. Knowles said Thursday night the Creditistes--like them or not--"have their rights." The only issue was seating ar- rangements. No government or committee--not even the whole Parliament--had the right in a free democracy to say what party is official and what one is unofficial. By THE CANADIAN PRESS Southern Ontario farmers are digging deeper for water--into the ground and into their pock- ets. After two weeks of rainless skies and record heat, rural dwellers are drilling deeper, wells, emptying already - low creeks, dipping into ponds and dipping into their wallets to pay as much as 10 cents a gaften for previous water. In Northern Ontario similar conditions are reported near Sault Ste. Marie. In the Samia area thirsty res- idents are paying $10 a $1,000 gallons for water dumped into their dry wells. In Hamilton and suburbs water suppliers are delivering up to 20,000 gallons a day more than normal. Belleville area farmers are buying water from the city be- cause stream water was not fit for use due to the low levels. Throughout the southern part of the province a similar situa- tion prevails, Nowhere has the drought become critical, but everywhere it's uncomfortable. FEARS FOR CROPS William Montcalm, executive director of the extension branch of the' Ontario department of agriculture, warned Thursday: "If the farmers don't get a good two- or three-day rain in the next 10 days, I'm afraid they won't have much of a crop." Provincial Agriculture Minis- ter Stewart said reports reach- ing him indicate winter wheat conditions in Middlesex County and parts of Lambton and Kent counties are the worst on rec- ord. 5 ""t is causing great concern in this department," said Mr. Stewart, a lifelong farmer in Middlesex. He estimated more than 50 per cent of farmers in southwestem Ontario are facing a water shortage. He also said the drought is affecting the dairy industry. "Already milk production has dropped drastically in western Ontario as a result of dried-up pasture lands. The situation is really serious and there has been no period like it since I have been a farmer." LAKES ARE DOWN Rocks and sandbars are show- ing up in streams where there were none before. Lake Huron is two feet lower than normal. Farm land crumbles to dust in front of plowshares. Ponds and lakes become mud pastures. Although the human popula- tion has yet to suffer the pangs of thirst, the livestock problem is becoming serious in many country areas. Waterloo County farmers are stable - feeding their livestock with water delivered by tanker. Around Stratford, farmers are beginning to range far afield to draw water from creeks, streams and rivers. The dry spell is shattering records in many parts of the province. In the Sault Ste. Marie district the last time it rained was Sept. 11, Near Ni- agers. Falls it has not rained this month, in Hamilton not since Sept. 15. Near Samia only 1.5 inches has fallen since Aug. 3. North of London less than one-quarter inches has fal- len this month. Dry conditions have raised the fire hazard index to extreme in many parts of the province. No Rain, Record Heat Causes Wide Drought The Samia fire depattment envi ked a bylaw Thursday that prohibits outdoor fires and pro- vides a $300 fine for violation. For five days a smoldering fire on the 3,500-acre Sarnia In- dian Reserve has threatened In- dian homes, a hydro substation and the main warehouses of Polymer Corporation and its Lewd stocks of synthetic rub- r. NORTH IS PARCHED Northern Ontario, although not so seriously parched, has suffered from an unusually high number of forest and bush fires. Ninety - two extra men have been hired by the lands and for- ests department to help battle outbreaks in the Sudbury dis- trict. District Forester George 7 amilton said Thursday the fire situation is the worst in the last five years. Twelve minor fires are being patrolled, four have been doused and two are in check. Some farmers in the Niagara Peninsula, made wise by years of watching their water sup- Farm To Urban Switch May Cause Row NIAGARA FALLS, Ont.-(CP) A Toronto lawyer warned mem- bers of the Ontario Association of Urban-Rural Municipalities Thursday they are threatened with being overwhelmed by pub- lic dissatisfaction concerning the present system of local gov- ernment. Jack Weir, who has handled several cases involving annexa- tion, told delegates at the start of the annual convention they must set up a system within the next 15 years to deal with the province's change-over from an agricultural to an industrial community. A new system of regional gov- ernment will have to be set up, Mr. Weir said, because county councils across Ontario have generally refused to recognize a growing demand for represen- tation by population. plies dry up, prepared for the present siduation by digging ponds, During the heavy rainfall season in August the ponds filled, It isn't lovely weather fer ducks. With the exception of the Lake Ontario region and east- erm Ontario, duck hunters and conservationists have the same report: No ducks. In most cases migration hasn't started because the weather has been Early Divorce From Fisher ico (AP) -- An early divorce from Eddie Fisher ruled out by movie actress blast at her singer-husband. Fisher said last weekend in Las Vegas, Nev., that he had completed the necessary six weeks' residence for a Navada he should go ahead with it. of the Oceana Hotel here Thurs- day, where she and actor Rich- ard Burton gathered with friends after his day's work in The Night of the Iguana. With a toss of her raven hair, she exploded "Why doesn't Mr, Fisher get in touch with me if he wants to say something like that? Or why doesn't he have his lawyer talk to my lawyer? Why does he use the press as an interme- diary in such matters?" no communication from Fisher, a member of the quadrangle that includes Burton and his es- tranged wife, Sibyl. The latter lives in New York with their two children, Fisher, in Beverly Hills, Calif., Thursday, apparently wasn't anxious to risk saying anything more. The sign on his hotel room door said "Do not disturb." And he wasn't taking telephoné calls. The Burton - Taylor liaison, which began when they were filming Cleopatra, apparently continues to flourish in this sea- side resort on the west coast of 89 warm. Mexico. PUERTO VALLARTA, Mex- s been Elizabeth Taylor in an angry divorce and was waiting to hear from Miss Taylor as to whether The actress was informed of Fisher's statements in the bar She declared she had received Liz Rules Out | INTERPRETING THE NEWS. As blood stains the Saharan sands, French hopes for friendly links ry ether Africa suffer another blow. The undeclared war on the desert frontier between Algeria land Morocco, embroiling two Arab nations who boasted of their undying brotherhood, is a Sad and pointless affair. News of the clash between the two tatterdemalion armies will be received in sour, we-told-you- so fashion by French right-wing- ers who predicted upheaval would follow. the end of the colonial era in Algeria. The. fighting is. taking place| around the disputed frontier posts of Hassi Beida and Tin- Oil Company Loans Charter To Rival Firm OTTAWA (CP)--Senate eye- brows lifted Thursday at a pe- troleum company's action in "borrowing" a pipeline charter from another company to build a $30,000,000 gas pipeline from Alberta to Winnipeg. Senator Peter Campbell (L-- Ontario) said Parliament wants to avoid issuing charters of in- corporation to pipeline compan- ies if people are going to "'traf- fic" in the charters, The issue arose before the Senate transport committee on a private bill to incorporate Pa- OTTAWA (CP)--A quiet law- yer-rancher from northern Al- berta was selected Thursday to continue the Conservative-set precedent of using an opposition member of Parliament to head the important public accounts committee. He is Gerald W. Baldwin, 56, a Progressive Conservative who has represented the big constit- OTTAWA (CP)--The Quebec "marriage contract" between Canada's English and French "nations" will lead only to Que- bec becoming a separate na- tion. The 1,750-member college is- sued the warning to the Com- mons miscellaneous pri- vate bills committee as it took violent exception on constitu- tional grounds to a private bill to incorporate the Pharmacy Examining Board of Canada. The college said the board which would establish academic qualifications for pharmacists actually would be clothed with power to grant pharmacists the right to practise, violating pro- vincial jurisdiction. In a brief to the committee, the college said the constitution of Canada is '"'purely and sim- ply a marriage contract be- tween two nations, French and English, or Upper Canada and Lower Canada, granting exclu- sive sacred rights to one and the other," Quebec Druggists Fight Board Bid "If we go on not respecting word for word this marriage contract, it can only lead us to nothing else but divorce or sep- aration or to use the modern word separatism," the college said. The bill, sought by the Cana- dian Pharmaceutical Associa- tion, would enable the phar- macy examining board to es- tablish academic qualifications for pharmacists, It would issue certificates to qualified phar- macists, but provincial licens- ing boards would continue to have the final word on whether anyone with a board certificate would be granted a licence to practise pharmacy. An association brief to the committee said this provision makes it clear that the board cannot interfere with provincial jurisdiction over the licensing of pharmacists, Pope Issues WEATHER FORECAST Records Via Hea Forecasts issued by the weather office at 5 a.m. EDT: Synopsis: The record -break- ing warm weather throughout the province is expected to con- tinue through Saturday. Lake St. Clair, Lake Huron, Lake Erie, Windsor, London: Sunny and continuing very warm today. Saturday, sunny with cloudy periods and chance of .a shower, warm, winds light. Niagara, Lake Ontario, Hali- burton, Hamilton, Toronto: Mainly sunny and continuing warm today and Saturday, winds light. Georgian Bay, Algoma, Tima- gami, White River, Cochrone, Sault Ste. Marie, North Bay, Sudbury: Sunny with a few cloudy periods and continuing warm today and Saturday. Wind southwesterly 15. Forecast Temperatures: Lows tonight, highs Saturday: Windsor ....+00+.. 50 Kitchener .. Mount Forest. Wingham ... Hamilton ...... St, Catharines... Toronto Peterborough Topple t Wav Trenton .... 6 Sault Ste. Marie.. Kapuskasing ...... White River.. Moosonee .... TimMiNS ...000008 Observed Temperatures: Lows overnight, highs Thursday White River....... Sault Ste, Marie... Kapuskasing ...... North Bay.... Unity Appeal VATICAN CITY (AP) -- Pope Paul VI appealed Thursday night for all Christians seeking unity to turn their backs on the past and look to the future. "Our attitude hides no snare," he told a non-Roman Catholic audience, The Pope made his appeal at his first audience for the group of 66 Protestant, Anglican and Orthodox observers from 22 churches attending the Vatican ecumenical council. In a moving address, Pope Paul told the observers that in view of doctrinal differences still unresolved the move to- ward unity would be long and hard, adding: "No one today can tell how long it will take." But he said: "For us the best method is to look not to the past but to the present and above all to the fu- ture . . . we prefer now to fix sur .attention not on what has been but on what ought to be" The Pope spoke to the observ- ers in French in his private lib- rary after Augustin Cardinal Bea, German-born head o' the Vatican Secretariat for Promot- ing Christian Unity, introduced them, Cardinal Bea recalled a sim- ilar observer "audience w'th Pope John XXIII, two days after' the first session of the council opened a year ago. uency of Peace River since 1058. He succeeds Alan Macnaugh- ton, now the Commons Speaker whose selection in 1958 by the Diefenbaker government adopted a United Kingdom pro- cedure in having an opposition member as chairman of the committee, The role of the committee is to scrutinize matters raised by the auditor-general, the man who digs into the government's spending accounts to spot waste and sloppy procedures. ALL APPROVE Mr. Baldwin's appointment by committee members was swift and unanimous, First business at the next meeting is expected to be the still-awaited auditor- general's report for the fiscal Free Press Exists In 47 Nations QUEBEC (CP) -- Newspaper executive A.-F. Mercier said Thursday that thanks to a free Lawyer-Rancher Heads Public Accounts Com. year ended March 31, 1962. The was dissolved last February. partisanship in committee work. tive of long standing and a enbaker. "I believe in a case built on the government," get a hearing." tions reflect legal training and his work as counsel in some 19 murder trials, barrister. He served with the Royal Ca- nadian Artillery overseas in the Second World War and first ran for. Parliament in 1957. He was elected the next year. CONGRATULATES IKE OTTAWA (CP)--Prime Min- ister Pearson sent birthday committee was barely under way when the last' Parliament Naming an opposition MP to the chairmanship has been one effort to avoid undue political The selection of Mr. Baldwin is taken as a compliment to his public record. He is a Conserva- former parliamentary secretary to former Primé Minister Dief- facts. If you have the facts, hit he said Thursday in an interview. "If you have the facts, you usually _ Mr. Baldwin is a serious-look- ing man whose speech and ac- He arrived from his native New Zealand at the age of six with his parents--his father set- tled in Edmonton to practise law--and went to Peace River, |Alta., 34 years ago as a, young cific Transmission Company. Calgary. approval of a different name. But there was a flurry of questioning when Pacific Pe- tend to turn over the charter to pany as soon as it is issued. pany, (which had been last year from Westcoast. Westcoast, sin" in lending the charter. The charter is being sought by Pacific Petroleums Limited of The committee eventually ap- jproved the bill, subject to later troleum officials said they in- 'Westcoast Transmission Com- Joseph Konst, counsel for Pa- cific Petroleum, said this will be done to replace another pipe- line company charter--for the Petroleum Transmission Com- incorporated in 1955-- "borrowed" D. P. McDonald, vice-presi- dent and general counsel for said his company probably committed 'a small Saharan Feud Pointless War joub, near the formerly French- controlled desert of Bechar and Tindouf, potential mineral wealth the personal clash between the strident, pushful socialism of Algeria's President Ben Bella and the feudal regime of Mo- rocco's King Hassan. Ben Bella, who emerged from a French prison to become the hero of Algeria's liberation, has gradually ousted all rivals to power, Like many a revolution- ary leader, he apparently 'finds it easier to fix his people's eyes on foreign discontents than on the intimidating task of internal reconstruction after eight years of war. So Ben Bella, clad in battle- dress, called in the Algerian National Assembly Wednesday for the "mobilization of all the rewpanst of the -- on unemployment running g hundreds of ragged men teed up to enlist--and got their first Square meal in a long time. The struggle defers any fure ther talk of the unity of the maghreb -- an. Arabic word meaning the west, Even Tu- nisia, a much less revolutionary power, feels itself threatened in the new dispute. President de Gaulle's hopes for fruitful co-operation after 'decolonization' rarily in abeyance. Five Die When Boat Flips In Quebec QUEBEC (CP)--A 15-foot out- '|board motorboat capsized be- side an anchored barge early Thursday and five of the six men aboard were drowned. The victims were: Marcel Le- mieux, 31, Claude Cote, 22, Yves Bosse, 35, all of nearby Levis, and two Montrealers-- Marc Gelly, 34, and Leonard Ouellet, 36. : Sole survivor was Jean-Marie Lemieux, 32, brother of Marcel and cousin of one of the other men. He was released from hos- pital later Thursday after being treated for shock. He told police the small boat had put out from Levis about 2:30 a.m. to return Gelly and Ouellet, crew members, to the $480 Million Sales For U.K. Car Makers LONDON (Reuters) -- British car makers have received or- ders worh £160,000,000 ($480,- 000,000) during the first two days of the International Mo- tor Show at London's Earls Court Stadium, it was an- nounced. Thursday night. A United States order worth £22,000,000 ($66,000,000) was re- ceived for Standard Triumph cars and, later, the British Mo- tor Corp. announced European orders worth the same amount. The Standard Triumph order was for 12,000 Triumph Spit- fires, 9,000 Triumph TR-4s and 5,000 Triumph: Heralds, It was the largest U.S. order of the show. greetings to former pr Eisenhower Monday, his 73rd birthday. The brief informal The British Motor Corp., which received U.S. orders ge to Mr. Ei home at Gettysburg, signed Mike Pearson. and responsible NorthAmerican press, the man in the street is able to form judgments based on objective news' reports. Mr. Mercier is vice-president and general manager of Quebec L'Evenement and Le Soleil and president of The Canadian Press. In a Newspaper Week address to a Quebec service club, he said democracy re- quires a free press not influ- enced by social or financial groups, Furthermore, he said, free- dom of the press is not a priv- ilege limited to newspaper pub- lishers but the right of all cit- izens, : A United Nations study showed that a free press exists in only about one-third of 140 nations involved, Mr, Mercier said. The press was controlled in 80 countries. A free press did not exist in Russia. The United Nations study demonstrated that the press is worst off in underdeveloped reg- ions, such as Africa or the Mid- dle East, But it flourished in democ- racies such as Canada, Britain and the United States, where the standard of living is among the highest in the world. Your Original CARPET CENTRE OSHAWA'S BIGGEST REAL ESTATE MOVE! "KINDNESS BEYOND PRICE, YET WITHIN NEED AN OIL FURNACE .. cau PERRY OAY OR NIGHT 723-3443 REACH OF ALL" GERROW FUNERAL CHAPEL 390 King W. 728-6226 John A. J. 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