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May Keep Communi- cation With Dead London Sitting in his "Psyshic Bookshop" -- scarcely more than a stone's throw from Scotland Yard-- a tall, thick set man with bushy eye- brows known to every man, woman or child who has read the adventures of Sherlock Holmes, held out both hands, palms down, over a small ta- "This," he said glancing signifi- cantly from the outstretched tip of his es to the face of his audi- tor, "is how it is done" And the oc- casion fas made all the more im- pressive because of the slow manner and low tone of voice in which he spoke. It was Sir Arthur oCnon Doyle, famed writer of detective stories and acknowledged by many to be the leader of the Spiritualist movement throughout 'the world, showing the United Press correspondent the pro- per way to start a tableturnin gex- periment, Sir Arthur did this during the course of an exclusive interview in which he revealed, how, after read- ing an American: book, from the ag- nostie. which he: claimed to be" he became .an ardent _ spiritualist. He also discussed very the most important issues of Spirit~ ualism and in answer to questions ex pressed the belief that: 1. There is a scientific explanation of all psychis phenomena. 2. Co-operation between science an spiritualism should be of value. 3. It would be well worth while ex- perimenting, with aview to discover- ing a scientific instrument with which the iving might be helped in their efforts to communicate with the dead. Attempts at Invention "Several persons are already try- ing to invent a scientific instrument with which to communicate with the dead" said Sir Arthur adding: " see no reason why it should not be done. They on the 'other side' are ready for us. But when we already have proofs that the living can eom- municate with the 'other side' with- out the use of a scientific instrument. There are the statements of so many honorable and distinguished persons who assert to us that they have spok en to relatives who have passed away "After all some of the greatest scientists in the world, great men of fétters and others were spiritualists, for instance, Charles Richet, Crooks, Victor Hugo, Theirs and among oth- ers who live among us today, Sir Oliver Lodge. : "But Spiritualism is, developing. Tt is undergoing a process of evolution like our world itself did, according to Darwin. And just as we are tod that man has descended from the monkey, so from the visible pheno- mena of early days -- when spirit- ualists commenced ~ table-lifting and other like experiments -- we are now changing to something higher, some- thing more intelligent. There is, for Ltion of sychic henomena, Sir Arthur frankly some of | instance, clairvoyance. That is spir-1 itualism on a higher plane." Asked whether he believed that sci- ence was proceeding along proper lines to scek the scientific, explana- replied with the question: "First tell me what you mean by 'science. hat is a scientist? There are- different lines of science. There is th man who studies' beetles or other insects, There are students of light rays. Some study medicine. Some study phychic phenomena, Draws Analogy on Beetles "The man who studies beetles col- lects thousands of facts, conducts ex periments, then when he has what he considers sufficient evidence to prove whatever points he wants to make, he gives his opinion or inter- prets the result of his work. The chemist does the same in his labora- tory.. He tries formula after formula until he thinks he has the right one. "But why put a man such as the beetle expert against one like my- self who has studied psychic pheno- mena for more than 30 years? ' He knows more about his beetles than 1 claim to. 1 accept his evidence on whatever claims he may advance with regard to these beetles. But T don't) see why I should be expected to ac- cept his opinion on, spiritualism. Tt is not he who has studied the phe- nomena involved, it is I. So 1 ought to know more about it than he. "True occasionally we have found fraud. But that is not only true in psyhic experiments. There are fraud in other lines of scientific research. The trouble is that many people re- fuse to examine our evidence, or fry to udge spiritualism on cases which spiritualists themselves are not satis- fied with. Why should psychic re- scarch not be placed on a plane with other scientific research? When, for instance, a chemist working in his laboratory secured a negative result THE OSHAWA DAILY TIMES, TUESDAY, AUGUST 20, 1929 | is now under way for John Kasper, missing co-pilot of "Miss Detroit" amphibian plane, which crashed into Lake Erie, near Pelee Island. The photographs here show (1) "Miss Detroit," am- phibian, now lying 30 feet under waters of Lake Erie; (2) Cy. Cald- well, pilot of *"Misd Detroit', rescued; (8) John Kasper, co-pilot, missing, and (4) Mrs. Robert Lit- tle wife of Aden Rapids, minister, rescued, - Search in an experiment, he discards it. He only retains the positives. Upon these positives results he is udged. But he would not like vou systema- tically to ignore al his positives and merey point out al his faiures, would he ?" Asked whether he could explain why some persons are "psyhic" and others not, Siu Arthur replied in- stantly: "Certainly ,.." and after a brief pause he adde smilinglyd: "If anybody can explain why some peo- ple are musical and I myself am not!" Traces Interest in Spirits Then it was that Sir Arthur ex- plained how he first became inter- ested in spiritualism. Tt was, he said, in 1886. He happened to read the memoirs of Judge Edmunds of New York. When he had finished the hook, the famous creator of Sherlock Holmes who at the time, he explain- ed, was an agnostic, didn't believe what the udge said about spiritualism. "At first," he said, "I thought it funny that the Judge should write SAVE DOLLARS ON YOUR SHO Thursday, Friday and Saturday .These Prices are Positively 3 Days Only ES! 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Later, however, I be- gan to figure that this distinguished gentleman, after all, must know what he was talking about, So I decided to investigate for myself. "Two of my good friends joined me in my experiments and soon I became a convinced spiritualist, "To those among the intelligent people who disbelieve in spiritualism," concluded Sir Arthur, "I suggest that befare they condemn our psychic ex- periments as tintrue and before they seek to ridicul them, thy do like I myself did. Let them investigate in dependently. Let them read some of the two thousand or more books which have been written by men of various nationalities, many of whom are distinguished in the world of science." Sell Parliament Building Relics London.--One of the strangest auction sales ever seen in Eng- land occurred recently, when liter- al chunks of parliament were sold to the highest bidder. The chunks were pieces of stone work removed from the facade of the palace of Westminster, as the houses of par- liament are officially designated, during recent alterations. M.P.'s have bought quantities of the stone. Both Mr. MacDonald and Mr. Baldwin have carried off unusual parliamentary trophies.' The catalogue contained 123 items. No. 1 was a noble specimen. weighing one ton. It is described as "A base stone of a cupola to] turret, hexagonal in plan, cupola' shaped and decorated in crockets on angle ribs and lozenge orna-| ment in panels." These turrets stood overlooking the terrace in 1850, when Queen Victoria first drove through the' Victoria Tower to open parliament in its new quarters. Peel's last' speeches and all of Gladstone's may have been wafted up to them, They knew the advent of the Irish Party and its departure. They looked down on Keir Hardie's cloth cap. The souvenirs were offered in the catalogue as useful for "gar- den ornaments, seats, bird-baths, centre features, hases for statuary, balustrade facades and rockery schemes; also many fragments might be usefully incorporated In old or new buildings." BRIDE'S FATHER RECOVERS DOWRY Echo of Marriage Night Tra- gedy Heard in Irish Lawsuit London. --The 'marriage of a beauti- ful girl to a lunatic who shot her dead on the wedding night resulted, at Dundalk (Ireland) recently in an ac- tion which counsel described as "one of. the mést extraordinary cases ever heard' in any court." Patrick Clarke, the father of the bride, sought to recover $500 which he had paid for her marriage dowry to James Kerley. Counsel recalled that the girl was 22 years of age. After the marriage service there was a celebration, and the couple went to their home. Next morning the girl was found shot through the back, and the hus- band was arrested, with a double-bar- relled gun in his hand, on a charge of wilful murder, Kerley was sent for trial, but was found to be insane and sent to a criminal lunatic asylum. Counsel contended that a marriage had not taken place, as Kerley was unabel to understand the meaning of the contract. In giving his decision, Judge Devitt said the match was made by the young couple themselves, and was sanctioned by their parents. Kerley got the girl of his heart; he had money and a good farm, and fortune seemed to smile on him. On the morning when he should have been the happiest man in the country, however, something broke within his mind, with all the terror of a storm, and he became a mahiac. 'When he went to the church to be united to the girl of his choice he was not able to comprehend the ma- ture of the contract he was making. The judge, therefore, held for the claimant, and awarded him the re- turn of the $500. Walter J. Baron, who has been head caterer to the House of Lords for the past nine years. Two days before he retired his only daughter was married from the House of Lords. ¥ : i The Berashith Lodge of Druids | conducted the service of the Gold- TOURIST CAMPS AND PUBLICHEALTH U.S. Health service Issue Bul- letins Which is of Inter- est to All Ontario ; Towns New York.--In planning long or short trips by automobile the ardent touring fan often sceks the out-of- the way roads, in order ta discover for himself the more beautiful spots of nature, and, more practically, to avoid the beaten highways, which nowadays usually carry a very heavy trafic. This is particularly true if the person is lanning to cam out. In preparation for an automobile trip the U. S. Public Health states that careful forethought is usually given to the necessary spare parts for the machine, the kind of clothing to take along, or the camping equip- ment needed, but often too little thought is. given to one's health and the safe-guarding of it on the trip. This latter point cannot be too strongly emphasized because, on such a trip, living conditions are = often changed so much by exposure to in- clement weather, lack of sleep, irre- gular hours, and other factors, that the bodily machine may, perhaps, be- come more susceptible to attack from disease than it would under the nor- mal home conditions, The safeguarding of the health of roads and in the camps has become an important health problem. As early as 1925 it was estimated that in thirty-five States there were over 3000 camps attended by over 2,000,- 000 campers. In 1928, it was esti- mated that in California alone, there were 1,400 automobile camps. In other States, particularly those with well advertised scenic areas, there were probably several thousand oth- ers. Investment in camps ol all kinds in the State of Maine has been es- timated to exceed $5,000,000. Much, has been done within recent years to improve tourist camps, but there is vet much more to do. For example, in one State in 1926, there were 233 camps inspected and only 104 of these could be approved. The problem is not a simple one but involves three important factdrs; First, an intelligent understanding of the situation by the pcople; segond the co-operation of State and local authorities, and thesupport of offi- cial and voluntary organizations; and third, and most important, the fixing of the responsibility for the mainte- nance of sanitary conditions. In many States the responsibilty for the sanitation of tourist camps has been delegated to State health officers by law, and in others, those agencies have undertaken it without express authority, In a few States where the State agency is doing the work, part or all of the authority has been transferred to district or local agencies or groups. Unfotun- ately, there are a few sections in whic the responsibility for the work has not been positively assumed by any particular department or group. How- ever, these sections are in the min- ority, because within the last few years much careful thought and dili- gent effort has been given by health authorities as 4 whole to making liv- ing conditions for campers as near- ly suitable for the mas possible. Such State agencies' as have start ed tourist camp sanitation work have usually set up regulations governing the proper construction and mainte- nance of this kind of camp. The three principal items in any set of regulations « might be given as fol- lows: (1) Proper camp location; (2) Safe and adequate water supply and (3) Safe and efficient waste disposal. What is the effect of location on a Watch the For Three Days AUGUST 22-23 - 24 Men's| uits y, Regular $24.50 to $29.50 Some With Extra Trousers Fancv Tweeds and Worsteds Bargains Galore in all other lines You must see them to believe Windows might be sub-divided as follows: (1) Is the site of ample size? (2) Is it provided with a reasonable amdunt of shade and natural shelter? (3) Will the soil readily absorb and re- move water? (4) Is the site acces- sible from the city, and if not, are conditions such as to permit the installation of the neccessary facili ties? (6) Is the site susceptible of subdivision into units? If these ques- tions can -all be answered in the af- firmative in the selection of a parti- cular site, that site should be an ac- ceptable one, TRIAL SEPARATION British Magistrate Has Novel Do- mestic Ill Cure London.--We hear much about trial tourist camp-ground? This question marriages nowadays. It is an Amer- | vote the amount to a prize scheme for the promotion of cleanliness and general neatness in farms and cottages in the county. jcan idea. Trial separation is an English idea. This is how it works: A young married couple who ap- plied to the Tottenham magistrate for a separation were told by him that if they were apart for a short while they would realize how neces- sary they were to each other. ACHIEVEMENT Coventry,.--A romance of a former He adjourned the case for . three! workhouse boy is revealed in the will months, the husband agreeing to pav| of Mr. William Henry Nightingall, of his wife 30s a week while they lived! White street, Coventry. 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