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THE OSHAWA DAILY TIMES, TUESDAY, MAY 14, 1929 COUNCIL ASKS VOTE ON FOUR QUESTIONS OF INPORTANCE (Continued from page 1) templated, this could be done on the site of the present market at Rich- mond and Prince streets. He moved, seconded by by Alderman Mason, an amendment that the by-law be not presented, which was later defeated. No Definite Purchase The arguments of Alderman Mac- donald were not well taken, said Al- derman G. Hart. The by-law was not giving anybody power to pur- chase land, and in fact there was no definite. purchase in view at the present time. It simply secured the voice of the people on the proposal to establish industrial areas, and enabled the council to spend up to $30,000 at a future date in buying land. Even then, a two-thirds vote of the council was necessary to make the purchase. The by-law would only be used when a definite prospective industry wanted a definite parcel of and and the city would simply buy the land or expropriate it if neces- jary to simplify the securing of the ndustry for Oshawa, udge Fixes Price Alderman Macdonald was only throwing sand on the proposition to obscure the purpose of the by-law and to retard progress, declared Al- derman McLeese. The city was not sommitted by the by-law to pur- chase any land, and even after a pur- chase had beer made, and a sale to an industry was contemplated, the par- ties had to go before a county judge who would fix a fair price. a Alderman Mason based his oppesi- tion to the by-law on the ground that the city already owned suitable land, and Alderman Preston on the argu- ment that other question should be submitted to the people along with the hydro by-laws, as the passing of the latter by-laws might be jeopar- dized, Cheaper To Buy Sand It would cost the city more to supply sewers and roads into' the land it owns now, than to buy an en- tirely new parcel of land costing per- haps $50, for an industry, and even then it would have the power to sell the land to the firm when it had become established, Alderman Hart said. It would be impractical to place an industrial incubator building on the market site, because It was.right in the centre of the city; and because there would be no room to expand, he said. Alderman Disney favored the by- law, saying that in any case the people should be given an opportun- ity to vote on the question. Alder- man Perry wondered why, since' at the meeting a week before a motion' had been unanimously passed favor- ing the industrial area proposal, some of the alderman had suddenly, al faced and were now opposing it. Encourage Industry "It is true the city owns two par- cels of land--but what manufacturer would locate there?" queried Alder- man S, H, Jackson. Each new in- dustry would want to pick its own site, and the city should be in a posi- tion to encourage it to locate in Oshawa. There was no railway accommoda- tion or other facilities on the city property, and no: manufacturer would go there; said Alderman Carnell. A manufacturer seeking a site in Osh- awa only last week had had consi- derable difficulty finding a suitable location, because the prices asked were in most cases exhorbitant. The city should be able to control indus- trial areas within its boundaries, and the by-law should be presented to the people. . Move in Right Direction | The by-law was a move in the right direction, said Mayor Mitchell, and if it wasn't passed the city would find itself in practically the same josition as last year, when it had een found practically impossible to induce industries to locate here due to the difficulty of securing sites, or buildings. The people were asking for industries, and he believed that the electorate would support this by-law that would enable the city to secure new industries. Requested by the. council;to speak, Industrial Commissioner Leon Frazer said that 36 prospec- tive industries had been dealt with last year and that in every case where more than three acres of lad were required, they had been taken to the city tarm une had' "turned it down cold." .They had gone to other cities where they had been able to secure sites or buildings without delay. Sponsored by Oshawa The Industrial Sites Act enab- ling the city to secure lamd for an industrial arear had been sponsored by Oshawa, and this citf should use it, he said. He mentioned also the experience of the two principals of the Skinner Company, who had been shown the city farm and would not consider it, but who had fortunately been able to secure other land that suited them. The present program whereby the city purchased land and the Oshawa Industrial Foun- dation Limited erected buildings and provide facilities, took care of both needs of mew industries and and could satisfy a prospective manufacturer from any angle, he said. On division, the amendment that the bylaw be not. presented was defeated 12 to 3, only Aldermen MacDonald, Preston and Mason upholding it. Unanimous on Hydro + There was no opposition on the part of any aldermen to the bylaw for the purchase of the electric and gas plants, the committee's re- port, the necessary two readings to the bylaw to' be presented to the people and the three readings to the bylaw enabling a vote to be taken, passing unanimously. The bylaw on 'which the people will vote, provides for the purch- ase of the local electrical distribu- tion plant and the gas manufac- turing and distribution plan. au 2 otal price of $520,000, the price of the electric plant being $310,- 000. Debentures will be issued at 4% per cent. for 20 years, to cover the purchase price, but these will not affect the city's credit on the open bond market in any way as the hydro commission wi taken them in payment and win allow the city to retire the: . in yearly payments of $40,846.25, this annual payment to be paid, as far as possible, out of the revenues derived from the systems purchas- A A 1 Mayor Pays Tribute After the bylaws had been giv- en their necessary readings, tri- bute was paid by Mayor T. B. Mitchell to the services renderea by G. D, Conant, on the special hydro committee. "Mr, Conant has rendered this city a splendid service" he said, "and he 1s now confined to his bome suffering from a nervous breakdown that was no doubt caused to a certam extent by the tremendous amount 'of work he has done in connpec- tion with this hydro purchase, The mayor also mentioned the valuable aid given to the commit- tee and the council on the ques- tion by ¥. E. Hare, city clerk; P, A. Blackburn, city treasurer; W. C. Smith, city engineer; and Leon Fraver, secretary of the Chamber of Commerce. The purchase of the hydro plants here would not in reality cost the city one nickle, Alderman Hart declared, for the profits the city would make out of the sys- tems would not only meet the annual payment but would pos- sibly provide for a reduction of rates as well, It was most important, said Alderman Prestom, that the Hydro bylaws be carried by the people, for it was the only way that ienef could be obtained from the present high rates for electricity and gas in the city. Public Utilities Commission On June 8 the electorate will tion of the setting up of a Public Utilities Commission, to control and manage the electrical, gas and waterworks systems and any other public utlilities owned or purchas< ed by. the city. One of the five members of the commission would, four to be elected at the annual elections in January. The question of securing a sup- ply of power from the Hydro El- ectric Power Commission is more or less a formal one in connection with the hydro purchase. It pro- yides that upon the purchase of the local plants by the city the council is empowered to enter into an agreement with the hydro com- mission at its substation here. The agreement of purchase is the standard one signed by all' munic- ipalities buying their own local systems. FIRE FALL PLAN IS DEFERRED (Continued from page 3) on Metcalf street. Even though the market site was smaller, the building could be run up an extra storey, and valuable land space would be saved. Let People Say The city council had already been grappling with this question for over a year, Alderman W. Bod~ dy reminded the council, declaring that the market was not an ideal site and that the building should be placed on Metcalf street where it would form part of a city square. The submitting of this bysaw would not hurt the chances of the other two by-laws passing, he said, for the people could be trusted to give their opinions on all the three questions, While he did not favor the fire hall being built this year, Alder- man Mason said that the people should be given a chance to state their views. on the question. Fire Hall a Disgrace Alderman Morris, chairman ot the fire protection and city proper- ty committee; declared that it would be impossible to get a satis- factory building on the corner of Prince and Richmond streets, for there: wag not enough depth to the property. The architect had looked over the site and could not recom- mend it for this purpose. "If you turn down this clause, my commit- tee 1s through trying to grapple with this question this year," he said. The city demanded a new fire hall and police building. "It is a disgrace," he said, "to house men in the present quarters. I wouldn't hang my coat in the building, and take the coat home. If this coun- cil votes it down now, the city will see the day when it will cost a lot more money," he said, pointing out that repairs would have to be made at once to the old building if a new one were not erected. ? In the interests of the health alone of the men who were forced to live in the building, a new fire hall and police station should be provided, said Alderman D. Doug- las. The people should be allowed to decide the issue. Alderman R. D. Preston said that it was ridiculous to think of putting a police and fire building next to Memorial Park. He sug- gested that a single storey build- ing, as the first unit of a two or three-storey police station, should be built at the market, and that the present court room still be used. Then, at a later date, the upper floors of the police station could be constructed, without bringing on a large capital expen- diture in one year. In the mean- time, the fire hall could be enlarg- i to include the present police sta- tion. Alderman E, Jackson favored the submission of the by-law, but Alderman George Hart declared, that, unless it was submitted by a unanimous vote of the council, it would be impossible to pursuade the electors to carry it. Alderman S. H, Jackson did not see why the city needed a new fire hall at all. The architect now had a bill of $2,600 against the city for prepar- ing plans for the new building, said Alderman L. V. Disney, and also be asked to vote on the ques-' ex officio, be the mayor, the other |' - Oshawa's Mayors Who Are Still Living in WHEAT RATE CUT I$ FREDERICK FOWKE Mayor, 1898 and 1900 to 1906 GORDON D. CONANT Mayor 1916 and 1917 " H. P. SCHELL Mayor 1925 There are at present living in Oshawa eleven men who have at some time or another held the most responsible position in the" city, thatof chief magistrate. Not many weeks ago their were twelve of these former mayors but with the death of Robert James one of the most esteemed of that body which now forms a chapter in the city's histery, the number has .been re- duced to eleven. This fact was drawn to the attention of The Times by Mayor T. B, Mitchell, the present chief magistrate of Osh- awa. "It is a source of satisfaction to know that such a large number of former chief magistrates are still residing in Oshawa," declared His Worship this morning, "Although one of them hag since moved to Toronto, the remainder are still up DR. T. E. KAISER Mayor 1907 and 1908 FRANK L. MASON Mayor 1918 ROBERT PRESTON W. E. N. SINCLAIR Mayor 1910, 1911 and 1915 JOHN STACEY Mayor 1919 to 1922 Mayor 1926, 1927 and 1928 ELEVEN MEN WHO HAVE and about their daily duties in the city over which at one time they were the central figures." Mr. Mitchell referred to Eli Edmondson when he mentioned the fact that one of the former mayors had mov- ed out of the city. List of Survivors The names of those men herein mentioned follow with the dates when they occupied the mayor's chair at the city hall: Mr. Frederick Fowke, 1898 and 1900 to 1906; Dr. T. E. Kaiser, 1907 and 1908; Mr. W.E.N, Sin- clair , 1910 and 1911; Mr. John Gigson, 1912; Mr. Eli Edmondson, 1913 and 1914; Mr. W. E. N. Sin- clair, 1915; Mr. Gordon Conant, 1916 and 1917; Mr. Frank Mason, 1918; Mr. John Stacey; 1919, 1920 1921 and 1922; Mr. W. J. Trick, FILLED MAYOR'S CHAIR 1923 and 1924; Mr. H., P. Schell, 1925; Robert Preston, 1926, 1927 and 1928; Mr T. B. Mitchell, 1929. Times of Progress The mayors mentioned above have presided over the destiny of this city at times when the city has been taking marked steps forward. They have been the heads of coun- cils that have been faced with pron- lems such as only a quickly devel- oping city is faced with and have accomplished tasks which have re- |. sulted in Oshawa becoming one of the foremost industrial centres in the province, ' No little credit may be attached to the work of these men for they have attempted and successfully brought about the industrialization program which might have bevn taken elsewhere leaving Oshaw: only a town as it was five years ago. people and a vote taken, this mon- ey would be absolutelly wasted. An amendment to the commit- tee"s report, by Aldermen Carnell and McLeese, that the clause be referred back to.the committee, was carried by a voteiof 8 to 7. ROVING GYPSIES HOLD UP DRIVER Baker Wins Victory Over Five Women After Hard Tussle Hamilton, May 14.--Choking unless these were laid before the | REVIEW IS REFUSED IN COMMUTER CASE U.S. Supreme Court Abides by Decision Regarding Quota Aliens Washington, D.C., May 14.--The petition for re-argument of the case of Antonion Danelon and Mary Cook, Canadians born outside the dominion and recently denied entrance to the United States un- der the immigration laws, was re- fused by the supreme court yesters day. Petition for re-argument was brought by Preston M. Albro of Buffalo, counsel for Danelon and Cook, who submitted that by its definition of 'business' the previ- ous decision of the court might be construed as barring all aliens, including native Canadians, from enterance into the United States in pursuit of non-commercial voca- tions. While the court had constru- ed the word "business'" in the im- migration act to give it the effect intended hy congress, counsel as- serted that its limitation as apply- ing to "Intercourse of a commercial character" made it necessary for Canadians to take up residence in the country as immigrants if they wanted to work in the United States. _ 4 one member of the party into un- consciousness with his right hand and . fighting off the attacks of four others with his other hand, Harry Belbeck, R.R. 1, Jarvis, dri- ver for the Jarvis Model Bakery, fought his way clear of a band of five Gypsies, all women, Friday af- ternoon on: the Hamilton-Simcoe highway, four miles from Jarvis, it was learned when police of the province were asked to assist in the search for the wayfarers. Six motor cars are carrying the party of 30 through the country. Belbeck succeeded in saving $25 cash but the raid on his wagon caused considerable logs. Not un- til he battled his way to freedom and staggered to the front of his truck to arm himself with a motor crank did the assailants flee. Escape was made in a mud-spat- tered auto with the license number obscured. Belbeck is a powerfully built man and had it not been for this fact he would have been over- powered. Fighting gamely he more than held his own after a struggie lasting fully ten minutes. COBOURG - 8:00 a.m. 1.30 p. m. Leave Cobourg - Arrive Rochester FARE SPECIAL VICTORIA DAY EXCURSION Friday, May 24th, 1929 and return . Open To All Standard Time Adults Children Excellent Buffet and Dining Room Service on Steamer. Reas- onable prices, Come and enjoy the first holiday of the Sum- mer with a sail across the lake. Music for Dancing, COBOURG-ROCHESTER STEAMSHIP ROUTE ONTARIO CAR FERRY COMPANY, LIMITED ROCHESTER Leave Rochester 5.00 p.m. Arrive Cobourg 10.35 p.m. $2.00 $1.00 JOHN GIBSON Mayor 1912 W. J. TRICK Mayor 1923 and 1924 T. B. MITCHEL! Mayor 1929 Including Mayor Mitchell, the present occupant of the office, ther o are twcl.e men living who, at some time, have occupied the office of Mayor of Oshawa. Of these, the eleven pictured above are still living in this city. Oshawa and is now living in Toronto, He was mayor of the city in 1913 a nd 1914. The twelfth on the list, Ex-Mayor Eli Edmondson, has left GANADA'S REPLY TO U.S.RAILWAYACTION Step May Help Relieve Pres- ent Congestion of Grain at Montreal FLOUR 'NOT AFFECTED Reduction Expected to Stim- ulate Export Through Winter Ports Montreal, May 14.--Effective today, the Canadian Pacific and | Canadian National railways re- duced their freight rate on export wheat from Georgian bay ports to Montreal, Quebec, Saint John, West Saint John, Halifax, Boston, East Boston and Portland, Maine, by two cents a bushel or 3.33 cents per hundred pounds. 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