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well matched with Queen's, the aver- TWO LOCAL TEAMS HAVE BIG FIGHTS Queen's Seniors and Interme~ diates Battling With Strong Toronto Outfits. Queen's geniors have started prac- tising again with R.M.C. and op- ponents had better watch out. When the cadets work on the Tricolor for a whole week the seniors usually emerge from the grilling ready for all comers, Bert. Airth had a minor fnjury to his hand Tuesday and the , usual crop of bruises appeared but these will all be smoothed over and healed by Saturday. "Red" Murray's O.R.F.U. team defeated Jack Newton's seniors in the practice game in Toronto Tues- day evening. Somehow or other that's a sign of strength in the inter- collegiate team, according to the Toronto press. We can't dope it out 'but perhaps it is "inside stuff." The Globe, following that practice, had the following: The locals think that they will surprise all the experts and defeat Queen's here on Saturday afternoon. They are imbued with the winning spirit, and they will show to much better advantage than they have in the practices. Snyder and his team- mates are ready to play the game of their lives. They learned a lot in the game at Kingston, and they do pot think that the champions are unbeatable, All the tickets have heen sold, and yesierday hundreds were clamoring for the pasteboards. Under fair weather conditions there seems little doubt but that a new attendance re- cord will be established. People who seldom gee a football game are eager to attend. U. of T. and Queen's graduates will also be gathering here during the rest of the week, and indications are that there will be a large delegation fronf Kingston. Times have changed. Not so long ago the annual Queen's-U. of T. game was regarded as a joke and little interest was taken in it. The "Blue : and White were so vastly superior that the Tricolor players were beaten before they started, but the last few years have seen an amazing shift, and now the Presby- _terians are occupying the place once the property of the locals, To de- feat Queen's gow is a hard task. And "Just to show that the fans appreciate a winner, the stadium will be too small to hold all who would like to attend. Looking over the local line-up yes- "ferday, the impression was gained 'that, man for man, the Queen's 'Parkers have little to fear from the champions or any other team. VU. of T.. how have had heavier teams 4m the past. In this respect they are age difference in welght being less than two pounds, with U. of T. the heavier, Queen's, Argos and U. of T, 'average between 162 and. 168 BEipas 4 wa. This appears to be best weight for Canadian teams. oa Snwder was clogely watch- &9 Janorduy by the O.R.F.U. play- had a hard time making oH despite the fact that he used all the trickery at his com- mand. Sayder was handicapped ow- ing to the fact that his opponents bably knew the signals as well as did himself. Under these condi- it 1s not very difficult to stop a player of Sayder's ability. 's, however, will not have that A tage, and he will likely get Away for some thrilling gains' hero on Saturday. "+ [Tha local Intercollegiate players | are great tacklers, and good tack- ng is just about the most important nt in football. If the wing can evade the high-¢liss 's interference they will yo i tare of the plays before | started, and that is just where is should be stopped. If the oo THE DAILY BRITISH WHIG SPOR FAMOUS WINNING FOOTBALL PLAYS locals wait for the attacks they will generally be swept aside by the in- terference, Queen's intermediates face "an even harder battle on Monday here than their seniors will in Toronto Saturday. St. Mike's, after winning a group which certainly had so strong contenders, will pe eid meet the Tricolor in the first game of the finals. After trimming Loyola the local squad feels ready to go ahead but they'll have tough buck ing. It is reported that "Nig" LeBel will be with the intercollegiate sen- fors for Varsity game but, unless we miss our guess, he'll not be used and will be with his own college here on Monday. The game is causing a great deal of interest in any event. What are the powers of the foot. ball officials with reference to dark. ness? Can they suspend play like a baseball umpire when they are of the opinion that it is too dark to complete the game? When a game is started late for some reason and the referee is of the opinion that darkness may settle over the field before completing the four full 15-minute periods, he shall arbitrarily shorten the four periods to such lengths as to Insure four equal periods being completed, He shall notify the captains of the exact time thus get. During an intermis- sion the referee, with the consent of the two captains, may shortea the playing time of the remaining period or periods. Harry Hobbs, formerly quarter and captain with University of To- ronto, has turned out with Balmy Beach and will be at the keystone position, i PIGSKIN PRIMER RUGBY NOTES. It {is not likely that "Gordie" Hughes, the McGill kicker, will be used again until the Varsity game in Montreal on the 15th. ' He suffered injuries in the game here last week. "Queen's always have Leadley and Batstone. They're a hard pair to tie up, but it McGill could do it for three quarters therg's no reason why Varsity should nat do it for the en- tire game. »--Toronto Telegram. The wish is father to the thought but the ligtle anvil chorus will be much disappointed, we fear. vi New burgh and Brockville "will fight it out for the champion- ship of the western section of the Quebec Union at Montreal on Thanksgiving 'Day if arrangements. now Being made do not go astray. President Sadie Holland, of the Q. R. F. Uy is arranging for a suitable field for the contest and intends to have it played as a sudden - death affair, against the champions of the Mont- real section. Frank "Shag" Shaughnessy, the McGill coach, says Warren Snyder, | the «Varsity captain, is the best in- dividual player in Canadian football. Other experts think Harry Batstone, of Queen's, is the star of all stars, while others pick "Pep" Leadley as the greatest of all Canadian players. All three will be in action at Var. sity on Saturday, and 16,000 or 17. 000 fans ean decide the question for | themselves. --Toronto Star. _-- Up in Hamilton they are pretty | and they have | more reverence for Argos than they well subdued now, did last week. The truth of the mat. ter is that Tigers are a much over- rated team. If Ottawas were to play then tomorrow in, say Montreal or Toronto, the writer would be 1 with the winner going up. Meehan's Syracuse Criss-Cross, The criss-cross formation develop- ed by Coach John (Chick) Meehan gains many yards for Syracuse be- cause every player has definite as- signments and nothing is left to chance. \ As ghown jn the accompanying diagram ball comes direct to No. 1 who runs to the right, After taking the Varsity-Queen's game, are the best of the lot. They're a few grades above the mill run of officials. But the others don't seem to realize that football is played on a gridiron in preference to an official. Some great coach might spend his time to advantage if He'd give the lot of them a few secret practices behind closed doors.--Telegram. POSSIBLE LINEUP. Bill Kirkpatrick May Catch Flying Wing Job. The Mail and" Empire says: The Varsity team started off with Kirkpatrick at flying wing. Snyder, Pequegnat and Somerville on the halt line, Mills at quarter, Clif Web- er at snap, King and Bales insides, H. Stollery and S. Snyder middles, Campbell and Duncan outsides. It is considered likely that this will be the starting dozen against Queen's on Saturday, but there may be one or two changes along the line, Kirk- patrick is Detter at making and breaking up interference than is Bill Stollery, and this will likely get him the assignment at flying wing. .e GENERAL a few steps he passes ball to No. 2. Fullback, No. 4 pivots and" checks right tackle after the criss-cross. The two guards come out of line and join the interferemce. Left guard, No. 6, helps the inside half- back, No. 8, block right end, who must be completely shut off from the play. Right guard, the No." 7, clears ; » Somerville and Kirkpatrick will be a great pair of defensive backs, and Kirkpatrick should give Bud Thomas lots of trouble getting down on kicks, Buzz Reed and Nig Lebel will be the spare halves, while McGibbon will be the relief for Mills, Masters has been alternating with Cliff Web- er at centre, while the other inside and middie players are Mpster and Dundas. . Soanes and Tayldr will be the other outside wings. There is no foundation to report that the in- tercollégiate team will be reinfore- ed by some of the players from the O.R.F.U, squad, although there are several who are worthy of a place. It has been definitely decided to keep the two squads as they are now composed until the end of the sea- son, although a victéry over Queen's on Saturday and a defeat for the O.R.F.U. squad by Balmy Beach on the holiday may produce several promotions, ; I --_---------- Joe Kirkwood will play in all the winter tourneys. Some time back the trick-shot artist sald he _ was through with tournament play. path for the runner and with the centre blocks defensive halfback. No. 2, carrying the ball, delays to left the fullback reach the line and then must get away very fast The secret of this play is the suc- cessful blocking of defensive right end and right tackle, (Copyright 1924 by The Bell Syn- dicate Inc.) HOCKEY OLIPS | Leo Dandurand, of Canadiens, made an effort in August to secure Pete Bellefeuille, of London, last ing to London to interview the play- er, but Bellefeuille said he hadn't any intention of playing professional hockey, and' would remain in Lon- don, where he has an excellent posi- tion. Bellefeuille is very speedy, a good check and goal getter, Harold Darragh and Hib Milks, of | Ottawa, are said to be back in Pitts-1 burg. : Dune Munro's jump to the pro- hockey ranks will net him close to $9,000 the first year and $24,000 for the three years. Harry Watson, a great scorer, would be worth that "much, if not more, to the club that could induce him to sign a contract, Wanderers still have hopes of se- curing Bill Phillips of the Soo Grey- hounds. Ottawa Senators will be called to- gether for indoor practice this week and they will likely get out on the Auditorium ice Tuesday or Wednes- day of next week, "The Calgary Tigers, who have been selected as the team to come Bast for an exhibition series, will be very strong. They have Hal Wink- ler, formerly of Edmonton, in the nets, with Red Duttpn and Gardner for the defence, and Bobby Benson, Bernie Morris, Ernie Anderson, Eddie Oatman, Harry Oliver, Cully Wilson and Spunk Sparrow for the attack. Both Sparrow and Winkler Were down Jat year with the Bo- monton Bakimon. Fred Lowrey, algnad by the Mout- real Wanderers, is not the same boy be as with North Boy juniors as in yesterday's paper, but the Arar who was in the United States NEWS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1004, TIMELY COMMENTS Motor to. Toronto for the Varsity Game PARK YOUR CAR AT Central Motor Apartments 'Limited 40 TEMPERANCE STREET In the heart of Toronto; most modern building of its kind in Ontario. 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