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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 8 Mar 1897, p. 1

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Mr. Davis, speaking upon Mr. Mar- term motion for an order of the House for information of the amount of stock ' on hand. outstanding account and re- 'venue in connection with the Central , Prison on September 30 and December 31 tor the past six years, re- piit . that stock was taken at the ' prison once each year, on September 31, unen the business year ended, and a complete statement was made out. If Mr. Minter would amend his motion in accordance with this the information could ohe brought down. Mr. Marter agreed. to the suggestion. "Ut Would be imansivo and Impmct'c- .ttle--tnisuvanco Agents Will Not Be . . Licensed in Future. ,Government Approves.of Mr. Gar- : row's Bill. In answer to Mr. Ctumegie's question ". "What are the regulations which gov- ern the distribution of the statutes to Justices of the Peace and clerks of municipalities. T' Mr. Hardy; stated that th rule was t , v0 times to the s' f, . , weak» ~ 9 Chamber. March 8. _ . Hardy was again in his seat the House opened this afternoon, none t worse for his brief ill- . in answering a ques- r.son, Ithat Mr. Garrow's dealing with the Interference of sivil servants in elections represented Mlew ot the Government. Mr. How- land's motion to have all clauses in statutes to be amt-ruled printed il ith the amendments in italics in order to facili- tate reference during their passage through the House was referred to a special committee after being rather severely criticized by Mr. Hardy and , A.. er members of the Government. To CtNersutatit?n of insurance men the " cut this morning stated that . > " , ded to abandon the licens- '?511'l ce agents. P. 'VANTS IN ELECTIONS. Hardy. replying to Mr. Ryerson's I, "Is it the intention of the Gov- ht to dismiss, on the grounds of - partisanship or neglect of i" '7'"'ment's business, any of its om- as who took an active part in the 7 Dominion election ?" said that the Government had not dismissed and did not contemplate dismissing any of its omciais who took part in the last Do- In answer to Mr. Howland's motion for an order of the House for a return from the clerks of the Police Courts at Toronto, Hamilton. London, Kingston and Ottawa of all particulars relat- ing to the operations of the children's court, Col. Gibson replied that it might pot be porsible to get as full informa- tion as might be desired. but there could be no doubt that tho 'tforma.- tion asked for would not only be in- teresting but useful. and an eitort would-be made to have as complete a return as possible. and he hoped it might he done in a very little time. mlnion election. Many. or some. per- sons contended that Provincial public servants taking part in Dominion elec- tions were quite within their rights. While properly debarrcd from taking part in Provincial contests, the same rules would not apply to Dominion elotions. They were entitled to vote and therefore to take part in Dominion contests. The resolution placed upon the paper by the member for West Huron, however, represented the views of the Government. and it the House adopted that resolution civil servants would be expected to abide by it. '0 Wants All Amended Sta- Lult,es, Printed. HOWLAND'S PROPOSAL. "1(1an Mr. Carnegie-order of the House for a return giving copies of all cor- espondenr-e between any member of the Government and any officer of the Northern Exhibition, held at Walker- ton. relating to the withlmldlnz of Mr. McDonald-Bin to amend the ro-f gistry act. I Mr. Ryerson-inquiry of Ministryzl How many notaries public are there in each county of the Province 't I Mr. Carnegie-order of the House 1'01" a return of copies of all orders in Council, correspondence, etc., if any, relating to the appointment of a com- mission to investigate the conduct of the civil or public servants of this Pro- vince during the past elections for the Legislative Assembly of the Province my; for, the House of Commons. Caven and Matheson. U I NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. Flatt-Bill to amend the assess; ment act. 1 it be a rule of this House that all / amending bills shall, when printed, set forth the section intended to be amend- ed in full, with the proposed amending I words or clauses in italics, and shall I also indicate by brackets any words of the existing act proposed to be omit- ted. Mr. Howland explained that the " object of his proposal was to secur . more intelligent discussion of bills dur ing their progress through the House, and to simplify the procedure in th courts. The present system required 'r great deal of labor for the lawyers and ' Judges in interpreting the law. and I also while the committees were sitting , In the morning, and the House in the afternoons and evenings, members of the House had no time to look up the statutes so as to see the effect of pro- _ posed amendments to them. As things are now bills were rushed through the House With one reading and a very Imperfect knowledge on the part of MB what their meaning was. '" Mr. Hardy replied that if some rule I could be devised which would be the gi intention of Mr. Howland's proposal it might to some extent simplify discus- ' sion in the House. He was inclined to q think. however. that the usual prac- l tice in a matter of this kind should be t preserved ', the usual practice in chang- F.. ing a rule was to refer it to a commit- ' tee of the House, whore the question , could be thoroughly criticized and dis- ii cussed. He was quite satisfied that I there were many merits in the plan. suggested, but there Mere difficulties g that he feared were. insurmountable. Il' Take a bill dealing with the Judicature - act or some other large and compre- hensive'suhject. where some 50 or 60 clauses would have to be republished. - It would be impracticable to apply it here, and so with many amendments . passed in the House. It would be eas- I ier, but would enormously increase the cost of printing and of procedure, and , while for general purposes and for simple hills it might not be found im- IE practicable, as a general rule it would ' be. It would not even be satisfactory in an ordinary hill, for it was sometimes proposed to amend a clause by laying h' down a general principle, as "notwith- ' standing anything in this act contain- ed." If all the clauses of a hill were printed and all the amendments in ita- , lies the work of comparing the bill ' would he almost impossible. He l thought it better that he should give ' notice that the standing orders be re- ferred to a special committee if Mr. I Howland would withdraw his motion. I The principle might be put in opera- It tion, but to a limited extent, and the IF: committee might evolve something that 'g" would be operative. Messrs. Howland, 1' m. John, Ross and Gibson spoke upon " the question, Mr. Gibson pointing out Ml a number at objections to the .nropos- IE ed. plan, and finally Mr. Howland 1tt .withdrew his motion, Mr. Hardy giv- mg notice of his intention to nomin- - ate the following committee, the I Speaker, Messrs. Hardy, Gibson, Mc- ll' Ifay (Oxford), Whitney, Howland, , Laven and Matheson. ' Clerk "of the Peace. ' F, 'MIN, ..... with the name of the pe 'a"aMI each volume was intended rt. " "" It, If such person did not. 11%.. take tho books wtthin a reasoniitthrtimi' they were returned to the department, Mr. Hardy promised that the return asked for try Mr. Marter of the business done during the last the years in the High, County and Division Courts of the Province would be prepared, al- though it might take some time. PRINTING AMENDMENTS. Some discussion was provoked by Mr. Howland's notice of motion that Dayable g to this wxihiioldinz of lble to prizeiianera. '1 m:

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