One of, and perhaps the, most debates between Reeve Norman Goodhead and James Service, Councillor and . candiâ€" date for the Reeveship of North York Township, took place last Wednesday, in â€" Calico Drive Public School, before the Oakâ€" dale Heights Ratepayers Assocâ€" iation. Our Oakdale Heights columâ€" nist, Sally Ann Kerman, reports the debate which led to angry outbursts on the part of one participant. The report, as it is lengthy, is given in point form in places to conserve space. The report is intended to give our readers in Wards Seven and Eight of North York, a better basis for judging for whom to vote, December 3. OAKDALE HEIGHTS MEET. wt Reeve Goodhead spoke first cutlining _ work accomplished ond planned for our particular area. He mentioned the Black Creek Park plan which has matâ€" erialized at last. This idea was born in 1955. The extension of Sheppard Avenue from Dufferin to Keele is soon to be a realizâ€" ation after a fourâ€"year wait for the Federal Government grant. The shopping centre which we have waited for four years is soon to be here. We have an Artificial Ice Arena and a branch library now and since he overheard us mentioning sideâ€" walks during our regular meetâ€" ing, he welcomed us to get in touch with him re this. He then went on to discuss his platform. The following. are quotes from this speech: Goodhead â€" Service Meet Head On "The residential tax rate in North York is 54.75 mills and has hovered around this figure in 1960, 1961 and 1962 to date. My aim is to control it at that level with planned control deâ€" velopment. This has been sucâ€" cessful for four years and should not fail to continue in this manner. 125 million dollars is at stake here and must be dealt with wisely. The average mill rate in Metro is 59 mills, the Toronto Tax Rate being 62 mills and Scarborough being 62 mills, Bigness is not necessarily good. We must pay according to the system. North York has a better Educational system and so our school takes are higher. Other services are equal to that of Metro. services such as garâ€" bage collection ete: The cost of Page 8 â€" THE TIMES ADVERTISER â€" Thurs., November 15, 1962 RO 6â€"1777 YORK TRAVEL BUREAU 1043 WESTON ROAD WM. G. BEECH, General Insurance Notary Public "G. DA V" ANYWHERE TO ANYWHERE FOR ALL TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS SERVICE CALLS N. Y. A ‘DORMITORY‘ December 3rd, 1962 Call RO 6â€"4603 these â€" additional â€" services in North York is 10 mills The Metro Cost is 24 mills, There is a 10 mill difference because of lack of control of money. I have continually attempted to improve on what we have. Unâ€" der local option and local conâ€" trol we have control of our own tax rate and can buy the services we need. This is just like running a business, a 34 million dollar business. In the future, we will have to provide extended and efficient services such as firefighters, snowplowâ€" ing and Dental Health Services. We already have better facili~ ties than Metro in most of these services." Mr. Service then spoke and began his talk with a eryptic definition of the Ontario Muniâ€" cipal Board. "It is the arm of provincial government set up assist provincial government to carry out planning for the provâ€" ince, a sort of last court of appeal for taxpayers." He reâ€" ferred to the 12â€"storey apartâ€" ment _ building _ on _ Bathurst Street plus the Ford Motor Comâ€" pany applications which the O.M.B. refused. He admitted he was one of two who favoured the Ford request but generally he stressed the power of fhe taxpayer at O M B. On amalgaâ€" mation he stressed the need for industry in North York and we can lean on the other municiâ€" palities in this particular case. He quoted the George Gatherâ€" cole report to Metro Council as saying that the N.Y. taxpayers pay $56,000 more than before 1959 and that without amalgaâ€" mation N.Y. will have the highâ€" est mill rate in Metro having had to increase taxes as much as $20 per house in 4 years and double in 8 years. He said, "We can be our brother‘s keeper without dipping into our pocketâ€" book." He stressed â€" that he wanted representation by popuâ€" lation and had moved a motion to this effect in 1959, He has heard nothing further on this motion which carried a multiple vote. He explained that Swansea has 10,000 people and only one representative to Metro and North York has 280,000 and should have 28 members in council. Metro with amalgamaâ€" tion is the "most over â€" governed area in the world" and will evenâ€" tually have to amalgamate. It is "confusing to the taxpayers as to who takes what and who does what." He pointed out that the larger issues are already deâ€" cided at Metro anyway. Issues such as the debenture dollars spent in North York and the rapid transit situation. On rapid transit he was most elaborate. He calls the T.T.C. a profitâ€" making _ private organization which still does not realize it is a public utility. We should have a one fare zone and will have with amalgamation, He claims the man who cannot afford a car is subsidizing the man who drives one since part of the T.T.C. rider‘s fare goes to the tax on the gas which in turn subsidizes. the roads the car owner uses. In short the Service Plan is a four point plan. 1 Recommendation to have an amalgamated Metro council by 1967 with 45 members, nine of which will be from North York. Each member represent ing 20,000 voters. (also one for each ward in N.Y.) 2. The chairman _ will be chosen by the 45 members. 3. Local administration will be continued at 5000 Yonge Street. 4. Establish the order of things by 1963, ie. coâ€"ordinaâ€" tion between the levels of govâ€" ernment with only one man at the top and if he errs only he is to blame and can be replaced by a better m.an. There will be a potential savings due to elimâ€" ination of Auplication. He refers to the Glasgow _ Report in Ottawa as a perfect illustration of this. He said his only defense was that he gave us North York figâ€" ures not Gathercole â€" figures since it is North York figures that are on our tax bills. He mentioned other statistics prove that with an.alg. we will have an eighty dollar increase in taxes. The welfare dept. alone in Toronto has 473 people and 283 only in North York includâ€" ing all departments. Our twp. employees have the highest salâ€" aries and best working conâ€" ditions in all of Metro. If amalg. takes place we shall have to reconstruct worn out services in Metro whereas we can conâ€" tinue to operate our new and efficient and paid for services. For example the North York police joined the Metro with new equipment whereas other forces used old and we shared the cost of replacement He stated he will favour what we, the people want but he does oppose am~lgamation. He said it is his responsibility to give us accurate facts and figures and he demands disproof of them. SERVICE GOODHEAD At this point Service was on the decline. He stated we shall only get what we pay for. For example in Etobicoke the tax rate is the lowest in Metro and they have the old system of edâ€" ucation (he thinks this better though since he was educated via this method) only one arena, two swimming pools and only one garbage pickup a week. He REBUTTALS Preâ€"Christmas SALE particularly criticized the high cost of education in North York as it is the highest in Metro, and we are paying more each year. He claims North York is a "dormitory" where people live and go to work elsewhere for even in Don Mills which is supposed to be the finest planâ€" ned community with a balance of industry and homes, only 8% work and live in Don Mills, He quotes we "cannot live unto ourselves alone." The benefits of a great Toronto should not be denied us. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS 1. Do we have Sunday Sports? (Asked of Goodhead). Answer: Yes, the plebiscite is for Sunday movies, concerts etc., not sports. How do you feel about the byâ€" law concerning renting in N.Y.? (Asked of Service). Answer: Very few can rent in N.Y., but low cost rental has eliminated the market for lowâ€" er apartments which were only an economy measure. _How can Multiple Dwelling be allowed in an area zoned as single dwelling when the school is overcrowded. (Goodhead). Answer: Anyone can apply for rezoning and council cannot stop them. They only approve the plans however in isolated COOPER FURS (Men only) and Election Assistants are required for the Municiâ€" pal Election to be held Monday, December 3, 1962. Interested _ Township _ resiâ€" dents may apply in writing only to Clerk‘s Department, Township of North York, 5000 Yonge Street, Willowâ€" dale, Ontario until Thursâ€" day, November 22. Township of North York SPECIAL CONSTABLES Open Every Night Til Christmas Including __ Wednesday. 1978 Weston Rd. E. Roberts, Deputy Clerk. of Fine TOWN OF WESTON Notice to Electors NOTICE is hereby given that the Council of the Corâ€" poration of the Town of Weston intends to submit to the Electors the following Question: "Are you in favour of the fluoridation of the public water supply of this municiâ€" pality?" I, G. H. Clarkson, Clerk of the Town of Weston, do hereby certify that the aboye is a correct statement of the Question to be submitted. The vote of the Electors shall be taken on the proâ€" posed Question at the Anâ€" nual Election to be held on the 3rd day of December, 1962, between the hours of 10.00 o‘clock in the forencon and 8.00 o‘clock in the afterâ€" noon, at the places and by the Deputy Returning Offiâ€" cers appointed for the said Municipal elections. The Mayor will attend at his office, Municipal Buildâ€" ing, Weston, on Thursday, the 29th day of November. 1962, at the hour of 12.00 o‘clock noon for the purpose of appointing, if requested, persons to attend at the pollâ€" ing places and at the final summing up of the votes by the Clerk. The final summing up of the votes given in the afâ€" firmative and the negative on the said Question will be made by the Clerk on the 5th day of December, 1962, at the hour of 12.00 noon at his office .Vlu_n_ic_iEaJ Building. DATED this 8th day of November, 1962. cases using their disgression. Why were you against the Ford Proposal? (Service). Answer: I voted on the rezonâ€" ing but was against the Ford Company‘s plans because they gave N.Y. and ultimatum to either work it their way or not at all. I suggested a comâ€" (Continued on page 11) G. H. CLARKSON o‘elock in the Clerk