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Mark Bryson Chronicle Staff Deciding it would be a dangerous, precedentâ€"setting move, Waterioo City Council has ignored a suggestion from the city‘s student housing task force and will not provide municipal grants for the development of student housing projects. Rallied by Mayor Marjorie Carroll, aidermen decided by a 6â€"3 vote Monday night to support a staff response to the final recommendations of the task force. City planner Tom Slomkie could not support the suggestion based on the opinion that Waterioo already indirectly subsidizes the universities to the tune of $75 a year as provided through grants in lieu of taxes. There was also concern that any grant would have a direct impact on the tax rate and could not be taken from the Impost Reserve Fund. Mark Bryson Chronicle Staff Biâ€"weekly meetings of an ‘"Administrative Poliâ€" cy Committee" would turn evening meetings of Waterloo City Council into nothing more than a rubber stamp session, charged a resident Monday Carroll argued that a "large number‘‘ of residents had contacted her recently to ‘"strongly oppose‘"‘ the grant. "It would be very dangerous to go ahead with it. Focussing on Section 37 of the city‘s yetâ€"toâ€"beâ€" adopted Procedural bylaw, Cilla Cross of 41 Allen St. E. claimed it would be wrong for aldermen to set aside two afternoons each month to discuss what the proposed bylaw labels as "sensitive issues pertaining to legal, personnel, real estate and development matters." **Council meetings held in the evening could then become nothing more than a rubber stamp committee for items discussed and voted on in camera,"‘ said Cross, known locally as the person who tried to block Mutual Life Assurance Co. from parking behind the Church of the Holy Saviour. Prepared by city clerk Ron Keeling, the comprised of an additional alderman, Keeling and two representatives from the community. Mayor Marjorie Carroll and Ald. Jim Erb voted against the initiative. Committee is struck to review procedural bylaw After lengthy ity rejects student housing grants Cross said Monday she will consider applying for one of the positions. Cross also used the opportunity to tear a strip off Carroll for comments made at a meeting two weeks ago. Responding to Ald. Andrew Telegdi‘s call for public input on the procedural bylaw, Carroll suggested neighborhood groups were "more concerned about issues than procedures." Cross later told reporters she was offended by the statement. â€""‘K;lâ€"y't;on&;;ho says ‘neighborhood associations wouldn‘t know what to do with a procedural bylaw, Uptown Residents‘ Association president Pat McMahon challenged Section 37 as well, saying the term ‘‘development‘ gives council too much room to decide what they will talk about in camera. The city‘s current prayerâ€"beforeâ€"meeting policy was also on Cross‘s chopping block Monday. Armed with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms as well as a copy of the King James Bible, Cross maintained prayer had no place at a meeting of go ‘"‘Many people may feel uncomfortable and hence unwelcome at a meeting where they are asked to rise pay respect to a god who has no meaning in their lives. *To pray aloud is to flaunt religion,‘‘ she said. Woolstencroft‘s committee will likely report back to council by the end of March. ‘"How could we rationalize support for students over other special groups such as the elderly?" she asked.Ald. Andrew Telegdi denied that such a grant would be dangerous, but only Ald. Lynne Woolstencroft and Dorothy Schnarr agreed. â€" o Telegdi was pressing for the city to wave the usual lot levy on all housing constructed for student purposes, in particular a 94â€"unit apartment project currently be built on Phillip Street by the Waterioo Coâ€"operative Resiâ€" dence Inc. Uptown Residents‘ Association president Pat McMaâ€" hon stated support for the grant earlier in the evening. Homeowners in the Albertâ€"Hickory area also supported the plan. A staff suggestion to proceed with a study addressing the outstanding zoning issues was put on the back burner pending a provincial court appeal. A local justice of the peace ruled last November that Ken and Dorothy Orser of 258 Albert St. are doing no wrong by renting out there home to more than five unrelated tenants. A Waterioo bylaw states otherwise. her outstretched hands. Meanwhile, tour leader Raspberry had a visitor of his own drop in. Chronicle Staff The Kitchenerâ€"Waterloo Social Planning Council wants to know how Twin City residents feel about social_ issues. _ _ Commencing Feb. 3, a team of 50 people will contact a total of 500 residents over a twoâ€"week period to find out how Kâ€"W feels about unemployment insurance, day care, income security, municipal planning and a host of other social topics. In order to achieve information from a ‘"wide cross section‘‘ of the community, participants in the survey will be randomly selected from the local telephone directory. c ‘"We‘re trying to take the temperature of the community. Five hundred will be enough to be representative,""‘ said executive director Efrnie Ginsler, adding such surveys are fairly accurate 19 times out of 20. The results will be computer filed and then distributed to politicians and officials at the federal, municipal and provincial levels of government. With elections coming up at all three levels within the next two years, the planning council‘s board of directors decided recently that now is the time to proceed v.mh the m_ndy. ‘"Politicians tend to know what the vocal constituents feel (about social issues). The survey will tell them the way the majority feels," said Ginsler. Survey results will also be channeled to local media as soon as they become availatile in two to three months time. Established in 1966, the Kitchenerâ€"Waterloo Social Planning Council strives to ensure citizen involvement in policies at all levels of decision making. Since its beginning, the nonâ€"profit body has been involved in the identification of individual and community needs, the relaying of these needs to the appropriate agency or level of government, as well as the initiation of services to meet unmet needs. A survey on social issues Waterloo will proceed with the $30,000 study when they find the results of the appeal. A city loss in the appeal would put a clould over Waterloo‘s ability to put a capacity on density. It was also decided to establish an ongong student housing committee chaired by a planning department representative and consisting of two university housing representatives, two aldermen, two student representaâ€" tives, two resident representatives and a pair of landlord spokesmen. Council‘s action was overshadowed by a nasty confrontation between Telegdi and Ald. Brian Turnbull, the task force chairman. Upset that three separate delegations had all missed their chance to speak, Telegdi suggested the city review its policy on delegaâ€" tions. Turnbull was outraged by the statement, and responded that at least two times during the meeting the chair had called for delegations with no response. _ _ The vast majority of the task force‘s 21 recommendaâ€" tions were taken as written.