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PAGE SBTX Service the Keynote | of Local Engineers sociation, was given Lh CONDduciuiiiy i , the meeting and opened it by reviewâ€" ing the history, the purposes, the aims and ideals of the organization. It was formed some 15 years ago, he said, and included five branchesâ€"the mining. | electrical, chemical, mechanical â€" and | civil engineers. There were many misâ€" | conceptions, Prof, Angus said, as to the purpose and motives of this assoâ€" 1 ciation of engineers. There was no plan to form a union or to establish any monopoly. The association was not closed against men who had onlyl practical experience or training. It was fully recognized that some men who had never seen college were' better engineers than those from colâ€" leges. At the same time it could notl be denied that an engineer increased his chances for service by college eduâ€" cation and improved his opportunity for in his chosen calling. The real purpose of the association was ‘ to raise the profession to a better basis and to give the public better service and more complete protection. No profession had higher ideals than the engineers and if all got together to work for the common good the result would be the general advantage and welfare. The council of the associaâ€" tion had adopted the plan of holding . meetings at various centres, instead of ! at Toronto. Mcetings of this kind had ‘ beern held at London, at Kirkland Lake, and now in the Porcupine field.. It is hoped in this way to give a more accurate picture to the public of the purposes in view, and at the same time draw together the engineers who are concerned with the standing of their profession and better service of the public. To Protect Profession and the Public. S. R. Frost said that he was amaZâ€" ed at the stability and permanence of things as he saw them in the Porcuâ€" pine and Kirkland Lake camps. The two camps proved the capabilities and the vision of the engineering profesâ€" sion. In reviewing the history of the Registered Professional Engineers‘ Asâ€" sociation, he pointed out that the idea of restricting the right to use of the title "engineer" was all with the purâ€" pose of protecting the public. The association was founded on the aim of protecting the profession and the pubâ€" (Continued From Page One) Aims and Ideals of the Engine Prof, Angus, president of the gistered Professional Engineers‘ The QOutstanding Investment of the Porcupine Camp. P.O. Box 2457 Goldfields Securities Through Your Broker or Buy at Market Head Office: Schumacher, Phone 708 THIRD AVE ineers. There was no . union or to establish The association was nst men who had only Feldman Timber Co. Ltd. And there is no home that can give you the coamfort and conventence of a home of your own, built exactly to suit you and your family. It need not cost very much cither for like the one shown in this plan it can be made «mall at first to suit your needs and pocket book and added to, later when more room is need â€" ed. Think what that means to you. You can start with a comfortable little home of your own at very little cost and the money vou save in rent can be he conducting of Phone 1789 lic. He touchrd on the attempts â€"to secure the needed legislation to make effective the protection of the public, and pointed out that misconceptions on the part of the mn in the mining country had been responsible for the withdrawal of the legislation. He outâ€" lined the qualifications for inemberâ€" ship in the association, noting that they they were the minimum comâ€" patible with puslic safety. It was felt that both training and experience were desirable in the engineer for the best service and security. Responsibility on Engineers to Educate Public Opinion "Gold reigns supreme toâ€"day," said Alex E. MacRa*®, "and the authorities at Ottawa have the greatest respect for the gold producers." One of the basic principles of engineering in any of its branches was to stek for facts, choose the most important facts, and base conclusions and action on these facts. He was afraid that full emâ€" phasis had not been placed on the most important facts in regard to the mnC 2N enginetrs 2 of the publ this should phnasis. Th all to educa right lines. themselves out of the should thin Mcinty prom our _ while of t eff oIr gollen aile mine had c the membet their reports in such a way as to inâ€" dicate their membership the pubslic would eventually Ilearn to respect and depend upon the registered engineers. John Knox, general manager of the Hollinger, being called away during the progress of the meeting, M. E. Wilâ€" liams was asked to speak and did so briefly. He referred to the cost of the various forms of inspection to assurse public safety and suggested that if the association would result in greater economy in this line it would perform a useful service. D. E. Keeley on behalf of local enâ€" 11 SservIi( mp s, There was a respOnsIDiIiLY OLl educate public opinion along the lines. Engineers should not ask selves only what they would get f the association, but also they d think of what they could give rvice and betterment. Work of Mining Engineers J. Ennis, general manager of the tyre Porcupine Mines made one is typical and inimitable imâ€" ptu addresses, full of wit, humâ€" ind sound snse. He noted that the work of the architect, the f the . WOrKâ€"â€"OL. building bridge as a monumel aissociation. ic was the in such a way as membership the illy Ilearn to respec of nInin afraid that full emâ€" been placed on the facts in regard to the ation. The protection is the main issue and iven the greatest emâ€" ‘as a responsibility on 16 ridges, .and others, ument to the skill i those lines, the _engineer was forâ€" roduction of the He thought that if association signed put aside for later use, Why pay big rents when so little will build you a cozry home? Take the first step toward freedom from the renting problem by calling ws. We will gladly show you how inâ€" expensive building can be. We will quote you the lowest possible prices on all types of building materials, Comâ€" plete buf‘ding supplies carried in stock at all tim?s. Mill Office: Timmins, Phone 709 ‘The importance of the engineer toâ€" day was stressed by Geo. B. Langford, of the McIintyre. HMe siid there were real problems to Je solved in the minâ€" ing field and it would test the ability of the best brains and skill in the profession to deal effectively with these problems. were in such an effective position to answer the question as other enâ€" gineersâ€"the Registered Professional Engineers‘ Association. Other Speakers Other speakers included:â€"R. Robinâ€" son, of the McIntyre; J. W. Dougherâ€" ty, mine of the Hollinâ€" ger; Chas. Kemsley, of the Dome; Mr. Robinson, of the Paymaster; J. J. Denâ€" ny. of the McIntyre; E. Sterne; J. Clark Ksith; and G. A. Macdonald, editor of The Advance. Mr. Robinson, field man for the McIntyre, explained that much of the opposition to the association had arisen from the fear that even the small mines would be forced to employ registered engineeéers even for preliminary work. He sugâ€" gested that the byâ€"laws of the assoâ€" ciation be made generally available so that all might know exactly what the association meant and represented. Mr. Denny thought there was much in favour of the Registered Professional Engineers‘ Association, and that with effective publicity they would put over their good plans. E. Sterne emphasized in eloquent way that the objects of the professionâ€" al engineers did not rest on the makâ€" ing of money alone, but were bound up in the higher ideals of selfâ€"expression and service of the public. He urged the very highest conception of the callâ€" ing of the engineer. *"Sorvice," he said, "should be the great moving force. Give mors, and as surely as day folâ€" lows night, you will get more, and life will be richer, fuller, better." Appreciated Hospitality In a humorous and witty address, J. Clark Keith, on behalf of the members of the council of the association, exâ€" pressed appreciation for the warmth of the welcome given by the North. He forecast that A. D. Campbell, held in such high regard by all in the profes sion, would be the next president of the association. From the Public Viewpoint G. A. Macdonald reviewed the disâ€" cussion at the Northern Ontario Asâ€" sociated Boards of Trade of the Regisâ€" tered Professional Engineers‘ Associaâ€" tion, and said that it appeared as if _â€"_â€"-â€"_â€"“â€"_â€"â€".â€"-â€"_â€"â€"â€"â€"‘_â€"â€"' the propaganda in opposition nad come from promoters whose interests were not identical with those of either the engineers or the public. He pointed out that the mining engineers of Kirkâ€" land and Porcupine camps by ability and integrity had won the confidence and esteem Oof the public. They had made their calling a high one and reâ€" ports they signed were accepted as of special value. The whole North deâ€" pended upon the mining industry. Everything that helped the industry helped all in the North and no injury could be done the industry without harm to all. False reports or misâ€" representation would give the whole country a black eye. The association was open to both college men and those of only practical experience. It seemed essential that the engingeers should have a professional status and qualifications. It appseared just as vitâ€" al for the public interests as it did in the case of doctors or lawyers. There was little sense in the talk about monopoly or close corporations. The chief consideration should be the pubâ€" lic benefit and this would be best servâ€" ed by giving the proper standing and authority to qualified engineers, on TEHEE PORCUPINE ADVANCE, whose skill and integrity would depend not only the welfare of investors, but the safety and lives of the workers in the mines. ton Ashley Barry Hollinger Base. Metals Big Missouri who was associated with the Metroâ€" politan Life Insurance Company for the past twelve years Beattie Bobjo Bralorne Buffalo Ankerite Canadian Malartic Castle Trethewey Contral Patricia Central Porcupine Coniagas Coniaurum | Cons. ChibougamAu Dome Eldorado Falconbridge Francoeur God‘s Lake Glenora Granada io Greene Stabelle Gunnar Hardrock Hollinger HOWEYV eWA Hudson Bay 5 Eim St. S International Nickel Jackson Manion Kirkland Lake . Lebel Oro Lake Shore Lee Gold Fire Little Long Lac ...« Macassa MacLeod Cockshutt Manitoba and East Maple Leaf MciIntyre McKenzie Red Lakc McMillan Gold McVittie Graham McWatters Mining Coxpmatlon Moneta ~......:. Nipissing Night Hawk Noranda . Omego Pamour Paymaster Pickle Crow Adolphe DesRoches Pioneer Porcupine Crow Preston East Dome Premier Read Authier Read Lake Goldshore Robb Montblax San Antonio Shawkey Sherritt Gordon . St. Anthony Sulivan Sudbury Mines Sudbury Contact Stadacona Sylvanite Siscoe Teck Hughes Toburn Ventures Wayside 4 Wright Hargreave White Eagle ..:.;........ Bankfield Bear 4 Canusa (New) Canadi‘an Pandotr Casey Contact Casey Summit ... De Santis Delnits Toâ€"day‘s Stocks Delwood ym Fortyâ€"four . ) a * Gillies Lakeâ€"Porcu. .......30 Gilbec 4 Hugh Pam ... 30 Lamagque . '750 Leitch s s AQ Magnet Lake k0 Moffatt Hall (New) .......20 Ossian " Porcupine Creek unit,s Porcupine Goldreef ... 2i Presdor tss Sigma units 450.00 VMHIY e td «â€"â€" Young Dav1dson d $18 DRILLING FOR OIL NOW ON Drilling is now in progress on Maniâ€" toulin Island in the hopes of securing oil. This is not the first attempt to seâ€" cure oil on Manitoulin Island. As long ago as 20 yvearsthere was drilling done on a farm at Pike Lake and olil was found, but not in what was considered commercial quantities, The hope now is that dcreper drilling will reap a reâ€" ward. ANNOUNCES THE OPENING OF A General Insurance Agency FAMOUS MANITOULIN ISLAND Life Listed Casualty Phone 1677 Bid 20\4 â€"22 m 2. 46 2.35â€"2.44 $150.00 9â€"9 s 32 ‘4 ...00B 1.46 1 A0A 8.50 9.00 1.34 1.32B .. 4.05 A0 \a . . 1.90B 170A 56.00 Do 56â€"58 26 ‘% 6.10 4. 40 4,20 16‘ 23â€"24 39.50 , ONTARIO 65.50 3.40 .. 1.04 ..6.095 7.65 1054 177 1.70 1.90 »Additional «Machinery and \ _ Equipment to be Installed. Gale Gold Contracts â€" for Electric Power The board of directors of the Gale Gold Mines Ltd. announce that they have recently contracted for Hydro Electric power at their property adjoinâ€" ing Shawkey, Quebec. They have furâ€" ther contracted for approximately $15,â€" 000 of additional machin®ry and equipâ€" ment to be installed within the next few weeks. The liquid position of the company at the present time is very satisfactory, showing a balance of cash in bank, as of Sept. 30th, of $42,000.00. Large Increase in Consumers‘ Business Report at the Semiâ€"Annual Meeting of Consumersy Coâ€"operative Shows Very Notable Growth. The semiâ€"annual meeting of the Conâ€" sumers Coâ€"operative Society, Limited, was held at the central premises of the Society, Timmins, on Sunday. To this meeting was submitted the balance sheet, statment of trading, profit and loss account, and report from the manâ€" ager, Mr. C. M. Haapanen, covering A period of 24 weeks ending June 13th. Mr. Haapanen presented an interâ€" esting picture of the growth of the Soâ€" ciety during this period compared to last year. Sales for the 24 weeks totalled $181,716.05. Of this the Timâ€" mins store shared $91,663.37, South Porâ€" cupine $52,465.64 and Schumacher $37,587.04. Total increase over the first 24 weeks of 1935 was $22,401.53, or 14.07 per cent. Each store showed an inâ€" crease in trade, the greatest being in Timmins, $17,522.39, or 23.64 per cent. The growth of trade had developed along healthy lints as shown by the fact that the accounts receivable had increased only $616.15. Operating exâ€" penses averaged 12.53 per cent. of the sales. Net operating surplus was $12,â€" 282.27, or 6.76 per cent. $2,391.60 was left for depreciation reducing the net surâ€" plus to $9,890.67, or 5.44 per cent. of the sales, In the report submitted by the board of directors it was stated that extenâ€" sive alterations had been made in the South Porcupine branch store, with a cost of about $4,000, making this store into one of the most spacious and best arranged business premises in the Porâ€" cupine camp. A coal yard is also being installed at Ssouth Porcupine to facilitate the coal business of the society. It was reported to the meeting that the society has been paying 2â€"3 wages to employees for the time of disa‘bility on account of accidents received while working for the society. For the beneâ€" fit of the employees and the soci¢éty it was decided that employees must unâ€" dergo medical examination when comâ€" mencing employmert and periodically In regard to vacations the employees have received 1 week with full pay if their time of employment does not exâ€" ceed a year; 1‘ weeks if employed at least two years and 2 weeks if emâ€" ployed three years or more. The question of establishing an u toâ€"date ‘bakeshop for the society w deferred to an appropriate time i such a capital outlay. such capital outlay. Mr. B. Tenhunen reported on the educational activities of the society and for the delegation to the National Conâ€" gress of the Coâ€"operative Union, held in Toronto Sept. 14â€"15â€"16. Owing to the vast agenda of the National Conâ€" gress it was decided that the resoluâ€" tions and decisions of the Congress be dealt with at membership mesetings of the society and the Consumers Social and Educational Guild, to be held in the near future. Candidates were appointed for ‘the board of directors, to fill the place of three retiring members. The following gentlemen were nominated: Mr. A. Heino, Mr. P. Larmer, Mr. M. Kivi, and Mr. A. Mattson, from Timmins; Mr,. J. Todd and Mr. F. Mikkola from Schuâ€" macher. At the South End membership meetâ€" "'WWW‘MWOW-'O’NOM had developed shown ‘by the receivable had JT ing held the previot Kautto and Mr. N. I minated for the board the board will take p al meeting. Lateral Development Being Pushed at Blue Star Mine on the first level at : of Blue Star Mines, from the provperty. crosscutting to inte vein located paralle apart, is making is believed that the ed at an early dat tersecting of these intention of>â€" diately open tinue the cro veins opened about 500 fee Lateral development is being pushed n the first level at the Kenora property f Blue Star Mines, according to advice from the proverty. It is reported that crosscutting to intersect Nos. 1 and 2 vein located parallel and some 50 feet apart, is making good progress and it is believed that the veins will be reachâ€" ed at an early date. Following the inâ€" tersecting of these occurrences it is the intention of the managsment to immeâ€" diately open up the vein and to conâ€" tinue the crosscut to an additional five veins opened up ‘on surface in a zZone about 500 feet wide. It is understood that following conâ€" siderable development on this level shaft sinking will be resumed with the object of opening up additional horizons at greater depth and tapping the veins at the various proposed levels. Diamond Drill Results at the Pandora Cadillac ‘Ing at 90 ft. cut, of bluis] mineralized. same hole 21 Aggressive Development at the Golden Gate Mine Aggressive underground development on the 200â€"foot level at Golden Gate Mine is concurrently being expanded with a good grade of commercial ore being now obtained, according to word from the field. It is stated that a new crosscut put out on this horizon cut the 202 vein 85 feet east of the point of intersection. Drifting west on this vein has opened un an appreciable length of profitable ore over good mineable widths with high grade re indicated beyond the present drift face. _Recent diamond drilling from this horizon revealed high grade section at ereater denth. and in this connection it _ Recent diamond Grilling from ULNISs horizon revealed high grade section at greater depth, and in this connection it is officially stated that the drill rig is now being moved to the 350â€"faot level where a series of drill holes will be put out horizontally to cut the downward extensions of the known veins on the upper level preparatory to further exâ€" pansion in the underground campaign. Several holes will also be put down to cut the vein below the present bottom of the shaft. Doherty Roadhouse Co. Toronto 293 Bay Street Market Quotations broadcast each day at 12.320 noon and 5.230 p.m. Direct private wires for fast and aceur ate quotations and executions in all previous we‘k, ‘Mr. M. r. N. Vilenius were noâ€" ) board. The election of take p‘ace at the annuâ€" Acecurate Markets and Executions in Commision basis only wvcal Phones 1200 and 1201 Charlie Hallâ€"Manager Members Toronto Stock Exchange STOCK BROKERS Unlisted Mining Stocks Industrial and Public Utility Stocks Bonds V al D‘Orâ€"Lamagque News on How to Read a Newspapetr That bright and original new newsâ€" paper, The Val D..Orâ€"Lamaque News, runs a special column after the style (very much after the style) of Dorothy Dix and the innumerable cheap imiâ€" tations of that lovely lady. Below will be found a sample iletter and answer as appearing in the last issue of ‘The Val D‘Orâ€"Lamaque News:â€" Dear Editor: I‘m all alone in the world and I‘m lonesome. In fact I‘m so lonesome that I read your paper through from front page to back page and I‘m still lonesome. Is there someâ€" thing wrong with me or is there someâ€" thing wrong with the paper.â€"Loneâ€" some. Dear Lonesome: T honestly believe that your problem will be solved if you read the News the other way, that is, from kack page to front page. You sfe, when you do that, you sort of reverse the order of things and after all, why should one always travel one once knew a man who read Eaton‘s Catalogue backward and ended up by sending an order to Simpson‘s. So if you will just try and do as we suggest. you won‘t be lonesome any more. You will end up in an institution for backâ€" ward people, and we‘ll bet you anyâ€" thing tpat you‘ll not be lonesom? there. You‘ll be nuts. Presdor Striking Mineralized Roc Both diamond drills at Presdor Porâ€" cupine Gold Mine are now in mineral â€" ized rock, F. O. Tidy, president of the company said this afternoon after he, with W. D. Milne, of Toronto, a director and H. B. Hatch, geologist, completed an inspection of the property, which adjoins Preston East Dome to the south. No. 1 hole is in the mineral at 540 feet and No. 2 at 220 feet. The company officials were highly pleased with the drill results as well as with trenching on surface. No assays have yet been made of the drill cores. Work is conâ€" tinuing on the 32â€"feetâ€"wide vein exâ€" posed on surface over which the value of $25.90. The company will continue work durâ€" ing the winter. Some buildings have already been erected and others will follow immediately, Mr. Tidy said toâ€" day. Timmins 19 Pine St. North Work to be Carried on Durâ€" ing Winter. Good Results Being Obtained. The treasury is well financed and is well able to take care of the commitâ€" ments of the company for the next year, ‘There is no outstanding indebtedness other than ordinary current accounts. More holes have been spotted for the winter‘s diamond drilling programine. MONDAY, OCTOoBER 5TH 1936