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person or persons must be disappointed. Since it was stated | good liquor to that there was such an ardent desire on the part of the:’-opiates as had ratepayers, the tendency has been to suggest that the whole | along, since Car proposal was simply one whereby the ratepayers‘ association . wished to force itself on public notice and the attention oOf| The Canadian the council. ‘Those members of the ratepayers association | at present. Car who brought forward the implication that the this, as they rec wished to meet the council to «liscuss matters have strenuâ€" ' the South hamn ously denied that the move was made by the ratepayers, some months ag association.. Some weeks ago wlen council expressed its ) in the world‘s n readiness to meet the ratepayers on Monday of this week | promptly paid it and answer any questions, special emphasis was laid by Mr. or other favours Bartleman on the idea that the request was not from the| ratepayers‘ association but from the ratepayers. Any who| One of the s believed this may well have wondered who the ratepayers brance Day obse imnight be who were so excitedly insisting that a form of pubâ€" ‘ tive participatior lis meeting with the council was the only way in which inâ€" by the Ukrainis was at the present time making progress to recovery in equal pace to Britain, France and other lands admittedly on the upturn. In Timmins it may be difficult to see the improvement at the moment. So many have crowded into this town from all the four corners of the earth that there will need to be very general and very marked improvement in the country in general before the benefit will be fully apâ€" parent here. For weeks past transients were flocking here by the scores, While most of them moved on again, there is always a proportion of each new influx that seem to linger on, adding to the total. One of the bright spots of the imâ€" mediate situation here is the fact that there is a possibility of men securing work in the bush. It is true that the wages are not as good as they might be, but from the town‘s standâ€" point it is better for a man to work for little more than board, than to be a complete expense to the town that is in no way responsible for his plight. It should be remembered that the town can neither control prices for work nor can it support all the unemployed of all the wide world no matter how sympathetic it may be. At the same time The Advance would repeat what has been said before in these columnsâ€" that the Government should see to it that certain firms or Individuals are not improperly profiting by using the times to force improper wages or condition of employment. gas without looking for some reward or return. To those who may suggest that the C.C.F. would never be guilty of the sins charged to the older parties, it might be pointed out that Miss Agnes Macphail used her franking privilege in connection with the membership in the House of Commons to assist a commercial venture at the expense of the post office system of Canada. The answer to this, of course, is that Miss Macphail is likely to drop out of the C.CF. at any time now, some of the members of the new political party being too uncertain about the common ideas of loyalty and honesty to please the member for one of the Greys. It is to be hoped that the C.C.F. are either more or less than just human so that there may be no temptation such as would ordinarily assail a man on direct relief who is offered automobiles and gas. The ordinary member of parâ€" liament finds things different to the situation with Mr. Winch. The latter goes off relief when he becomes memâ€" ber. _ So many men have to go on relief when they lose their parliamentary seat. At Ottawa last wqek Premier R. B. Bennett referred to the fact that the silver lining was beginning to appear behind the clouds of depression for Canada. He noted that Canada Anyway there is a large each of the features of this In the case of the Winch family there seems to be a danger that might make the bravest ‘winch.‘ Is this to be the newest form of relief? Direct relief has been tried, and proved failure. Employment, rather than direct relief, is classed as too costly. Is the newest C.C.F. programme to substitute election to parliament as the most modern type of relief. It may prove the happy form of relief that Mr. Winch has found it, but not to the people who have to pay the shot. There will be some who will be glad that Mr. Winch is a member of the C.C.F. and not connected with either of the older and more sinful parties. Members of the C.C.F. would be the first to point out that people do not offer Liberal or Conservative members of parliament motor. cars and free Mr. Winch‘s destitution may be due to some lack in his| trouble for the council and officials, Instead, Mr. Bartleâ€" character or ability will feel it strange that such an unsucâ€"| man made rather a grievance against Councillor Maltais cessful man should be given a part in conducting the affairs because the assistant town clerk was not present to present of his province when he proved so ineffective in looking after | certain data, though Councillor Maltais explained that he his own maintenance. Even those who blame his predica-; had the information there to reply to any questions asked. ment on illâ€"luck might weil be tempted to fear that so unâ€" ; "How did you know what questions we were going to ask?" lucky a man would scarcely bring fortune to affairs of state.) queried Mr. Bartleman. If everything were fair and square Further remarks by Mr. Winch lead to further food for | and above board, why was there any need for holding back thought. "It‘s wonderful," he says "what a difference three ; the nature of any questions to be asked by the "ratepayers"? letters, M.P.P. make after your name. They have taken one: It may also be noted that some of the questions were eviâ€" man off direct relief. That person was myself. I was on dently intended to leave a false impression, rather than to the breadline. Occasionally I found it difficult to secure reâ€" secure information. Mayor Geo. S. Drew and the members lief, but the morning after election it was easy. I never; of council, however, displayed notable patience, tact and secured anything so quickly in my life. Before the election | courtesy, and gave full replies to all the questions asked. I could not get the price of a car ticket. Now I have the ; Some of the information volunteered by the mayor was illuâ€" standing offer of an automobile with free gas should I care| minating even to those keeping close touch with municipal to make use of it." affairs. This was particularly true in regard to the comâ€" It would be interesting to know where a man on relief seâ€" j parisons made between Timmins and other towns in Ontario cured the money necessary for an election. It may be, of of similar size in such matters as tax rates, assessments, course, that times are changed in British Columbia, and that indebtedness and financial standing. It proved the suggesâ€" elections out there nowadays may be won with prayers. tion made in The Advance on more than one recent occaâ€" Mr. Winch‘s father, E. E. Winch, was also a successful C.C.F.| °ion, that municipal affairs in Timmins have been unusuâ€" candidate in Burnaby riding in the British Columbia elecâ€" l ally well conducted in recent years and that the financial tions. The despatches do not suggest that the father is also | standing of the town is an enviable one, indeed, when all on relief but trusting people will fear that it is so, because ; conditions and circumstances are considered. otherwise they would expect that the father would help hisl As will ba noted in the report elsewhere in this issue, the son rather than see the latter forced to accept relief from | mayor and council answered in full all the questions asked the province. | by the "ratepayers". The mayor emphasized the fact that standing offer of an automobile with free gas should I care : minating to make use of it." | affairs. _ It would be interesting to know where a man on relief seâ€" parisons cured the money necessary for an election. It may be, of of simila course, that times are changed in British Columbia, and that| indebted: elections out there nowadays may be won with prayers. | tion mad There is much food for thoughnt in the despatch coming from Victoria, British Columbia, this week in reference to Harold E. Winch, memberâ€"elect for Vancouver East in the British Columbia legislature. Mr. Winch says that he has been out of work for two years, and on direct relief for some time. Many will look upon his election as a tribute to the democracy of this country, but others will be tempted to think of other features of the case. Those who consider that Mr. Winch‘s destitution may be due to some lack in his character or ability will feel it strange that such an unsucâ€" cessful man should be given a part in conducting the affairs of his province when he proved so ineffective in looking after his own maintenance. Even those who blame his predicaâ€" ment on illâ€"luck might weil be tempted to fear that so unâ€" lucky a man would scarcely bring fortune to affairs of state. Further remarks by Mr. Winch lead to further food for thought. "It‘s wonderful," he says "what a difference three letters, MP.P. make after your name. They have taken one man off direct relief. That person was myself. I was on the breadline. Occasionally I found it difficult to secure reâ€" lief, but the morning after election it was easy. I never secured anything so quickly in my life. Before the election I could not get the price of a car ticket. Now I have the Canadaâ€"$2.00 Per Year TIMMINS, ONTARIQ Members Canadian Weekly Newspaper Association; Ontarioâ€" Quebec Newspaper Association; Class "A" Weekly Group OFFICE 26â€"â€"â€"â€"PHONESâ€"â€"â€"â€"â€"RESIDENCE 70 Published Every Thursday by: GEO, LAKE, Owner and Publisher Bubscription Rates: t it eP P â€"AP P P P PP PP PC ! ELECTED TO RELIEF If anyone expected that there would be any excitement er the announcement that the ratepavers of the town were manding opportunity to meet the tow:n council to secure account of the stewardship of the elected representatives d obtain answers to questions that could not be solved cept through some form of public discussion,. then that Timmins, Ont., Thursday, Nov. 16th, 1933 Che Yormmpine Aduanee QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS amount of food for thought in Winch case. United Statesâ€"$3.00 Per Year One of the specially pleasing features of the Rememâ€" brance Day observance at Timmins was the active and effecâ€" tive participation of loyal new citizens like those represented by the Ukrainian Prosvita Association. the Loyal Finnish Apparently, The Toronto Glob form is having startling effect. penitentiary the other day went good liquor to comfort him in opiates as had formerly been the along, since Carrie Nation died. "are not to be sneezed at," as the crib experts The Power Co. pioneered the North, took a ris service to the public and the country. The prof corporation has been due to an intimate know!] cothers whose rates have bee those of other users. Theore ; business of abusing the Powe ations. It does seem that the good deeds of the Power Co. they treat the public. Three 1 "are not to be sneezed at,." : Another notable voluntary reduction in elec‘trzic light rates is announced by the Canadian Northern Power Corporation, to be effective in January next. Yet there are people who would sooner join the C.C.F. than believe in Santa Claus. The Power Company have made three voluntary reductions in rates to customers in recent years and it seems no more than common fairness, as well as cqnmon sense, to give the company credit for its attitude. The present reduction is in commercial rates and will be appreciated by merchants and cthers whose rates have been higher in comparison than those of other users. There are people who almost make a business of abusing the Power Co. and other large corporâ€" ations. It does seem that these people should recognize the good deeds of the Power Co. and the fairness with which they treat the public. Three voluntary reductions in charges "are not to be sneezed at," as the crib experts would say. The Power Co. pioneered the North, took a risk and gave These facts and it is not too much Canada. sion of a truth realized. It is remarkable that with so many difficulties facing them, the present council have made as few mistakes as the "ratepayers" seem able to hold against them. The present mayor and council have given unselfish, unâ€" stinted and generous service to the town during the past year. It would be tco bad if all their reward should be carping criticism and unfair faultâ€"finding. The Advance is more than ever of the opinion that the town of Timmins would be best served by the return of mayor and council by acclamation for 1934. The Advance believes that this would please the majority of the Unfortunately, howâ€" ever, the stage seems set for other things. This will mean unnecessary expense and turmoil for Timmins. The "rateâ€" payers" and the ratepayers‘ association, however, have had their innings, and if all that was said at Monday‘s meeting may be taken at its face value, it should not be difficult to save the cost and trouble of an election and at the same time work for the best interests of the Town of Timmins. Proof of the improvement in general conditions is given in figures just released by the Dominion Bureau of Statistics at Ottawa. These figures show that 300,000 more persons are employed in Canada at present than in the spring of this year. A number of industries are named in which employâ€" ment has increased in most pleasing way. The figure of 100 is taken as representing employment in 1926, and then the Bureau of Statistics notes the increase made in amployment in Canada since the spring, the figures being given as follows:â€"The mining industry advanced from 98.2 per cent. to 105.8 per cent; in hosiery and knit goods mills from 110 to 118.2 per cent:; in rubber manufacturing from 61. to 86.3 per cent.; in woollens from 109.8 to 125.8 per cent.; in leather and leather products, from 90.6 to 100.1 per cent.; in silk and silk goods, from 378.5 to 413.3 per cent.; and in lumber and lumber products from 58.5 to 63.9 per cent. These facts and others that might be quoted suggest that it is not too much to affirm that. times are on the mend in voluntary reducti it least might say regard to municipal affairs was available to the ratepayers at all times. Mr. Bartleman at the conclusion of the lengthy session between the "ratepayers" and the council, thanked the mayor and council for the courtesy and consideration shown the "ratepayers‘". It is to be hoped that this was more than a gracious gesture,â€"that it was a sincere expresâ€" of similar size in such matters as tax rates, assessments, indebtedness and financial standing. It proved the suggesâ€" tion made in The Advance on more than one recent occaâ€" gion, that municipal affairs in Timmins have been unusuâ€" ally well conducted in recent years and that the financial standing of the town is an enviable one, indeed, when all conditions and circumstances are considered. As will ba noted in the report elsewhere in this issue, the mayor and council answered in full all the questions asked by the "ratepayers‘". The mayor emphasized the fact that the council had nothing to hide and that information in regard to municipal affairs was available to the ratepayers There was not a gladly answered at ar town had the inform questions have alread: council meetings from ation requested was cCc sary at all. Of cours sary at all. Of course, to have for the information secured on have lacked the tqu‘ch of the spect afforded the publicity that may I bold announcement of meetings re thought that to secure informat would not be good politics. Both tleman protested that they were n quiries from any illâ€"will towards highest motives of good citizensh believe this had the "ratepayers," lines upon which they desired in might have been ready for the trouble for the council and offici man made rather a grievance a formation could be obtained about town affairs. To such a question the answer was apparent at Monday‘s meeting of the council when it developed that the "ratepayers" were Messrs J. P. Bartleman, A. M. Stuart and Nick Thachuk. These were the only three who took opportunity of the chance offered to discuss town affairs and ask questions as to details in the conduct of the municipality. ncement of meetings requ iat to secure informatio be good politics. Both M tested that they were not m any illâ€"will towards t} tives of good citizenship had the "ratepayers," fo which they desired info e been ready for them _ the council and official â€"rather a grievance aga e assistant town clerk wa na t a question asked that would not have beer at any time by any of the officials of the information been requested. Some of the already been answered in the reports of s from time to time. So far as the inforniâ€" MC grievanC town cle Councill tchere to erned no were not making any of their enâ€" wards the council but with the izenship. It would be easier to yers," for example, indicated the red information, so that details r them with the minimum of 1 officials. Instead, Mr. Bartleâ€" ince against Councillor Maltais clerk was not present to present rillor Maltais explained that he to reply to any questions asked. uestions we were going to ask?" everything were fair and square . and the voluntary as the cr mnoney municip JC bein returt ied for smiling at in the country to > Canadian dollar W pJ ws filled i; doped d an fo it t] jan ea States | Th pretr DT on reâ€" uentin with vith old remedy, and to make no difference dividual. As a m:s One of the thr Monday that the be increasod so th no interrud township fC cletrk., FP. M and that it ship. Mone for salaries Whitw taken i WwA the Ontario G and, in the pt Henry, as Mir been communi a statement to Rae, who also the school boa ed to be owin: 1925 and 1929. quisition had I pald 1 School school Hurst : he stat of the Ontario Associated B other years. A despatch fror ton, Ont., last week says:â€" Byrnes, of ‘Collingwood, Ont., pointed president for 1933â€"34 Ontario Associated Boards of T Chambers of Commerce, in The Haileyburian last week says:â€" ‘"The financial worries of the township of Bucke â€"were added to cn Monday, when the goods and chattels of that alâ€" ready hardâ€"pressed municipality were placed under seizure by Sheriff Caldâ€" bick at the instance of the No. 5 School were as TOLOwWs!: PIirst viCceâ€"p E. Crawford, of Fort Willia viceâ€"president, Major J. O. ‘ ronto; third viceâ€"president, laghan, Hamilton. Cecile Be tawa; A. E. Provost, Ottawa; ton, North Bay; F. E. Woo Falls; C. W. Wright, Haile A. N. Smith, Cornwall, w« those named ito the executi T. Marshall, Tcronto, was Tt secretaryâ€"treasurer." Bucke Township Goods Again Under Seizure Last week there wa representation of the the Ontario Associ Trade. For several ; Arthur Stevens, Coc Ebbitt, TIroquois Fall 11.30. This Kirkland Lal being closed ELECTION OF QOFFICERS FOR QNTARIO ASSOCIATED BOARDS Arthur Stevens, Coc Ebbitt, TIroquois Fall been on the executiv Associated Board of / tion of officers for t last week, however, zga fact that it fell on a Satunr cbservance difiicult, of co not more difficult than w was commemoratinz. In Timmins Saturday holid; ship upon many with smal few conveniences for keepi hold a supply of food fro onday is a difficult mati people. In view cof the c and conditions the halfâ€"h ed to fill the bill. It is that on future occasions : close coservance of the m day for Remembrance Day that of F. E. Wood, of Iroc for place on the executive. North Land man, C. W. Enclehart, has been on the DIFFERENT OBSERVANCEs® OF THE HOLUIDAY LAST WEEK nly nad wo minu YOLl S1C offi ormity abou . as Minister of Education, ha ‘ommunicated with, according t ‘ment to the press by Reeve Mc ho also stated that the claim o hool board is for amounts alleg be owing for the years betweetr nd 1929. The present year‘s re m had been met in full, excep townshin grant, which would b repait ti the preser @as Ministe it Hamilton on elected for th thne near futul section is the t Moore‘s Cove. the chairman of that the money epairs to the s ilat 11 ir Domir f‘ell on a ind sed mumnicipality were izure by Sheriff Caldâ€" nce cf the No. 5 School ‘ a judgment of $1,180, red the township owes i for which a Supremse i1 Cocht the nmeni t diff HiIT Trade. the O i Cchatr Di one with t H. Holland: D ping rom 1111@2m} S 0. Thort cutlive coun is reappoin latsla) 11 1Z tO ‘D¢e nop?: here will b orning holi yeSs" ofi tne town suggested on t, of property in Timmins might rate might be reduced. It is an aige mai it appears as if it would imount of taxes paid by the inâ€" act, however, it would decrease axed on incomes only, while this wn all bu m 10.30 Board Dast C ILAPIO both he C new name, uois Falls, The other M day. "" ma hunt , Iroquo bury an n Hamilâ€" se M .‘ J IrIiday for th iunstan lly nee buildin Croatian Society. The part krainian Prosvita Association vy. The fact that these newer tic will surely make for better d assist in the development of izenship ana democrasy. . 1 V iY NEeTYy position 1 before e reave AMMvanct amons council fficien s bee: in the ind or Shou ie d innua| Other at tition z, but were is in Bodyv hav em 1LC RC6 pi th n ind l to im} Stratford Beaconâ€"Herald :â€" Peter Verigin, leader of the Doukhobors in the West was fined in court for assault, but Peter said he only pushed the man. The court took him at his word and suggested that he push $35 across the dock to settle the case. the regular meeting of the council will be held on Tuesday next, when the whole matter will be discussed. It is expected that some solution of the diffiâ€" calty will be found. This is the second time that an action of this nature has‘ been taken against the township. Some time ago a hospital in Southern Ontario, which had secured a judgment for a claim involving the treatment of indigent patients of the municipality, took similar measures, but in that case a settlement was arrived at before the | proceedings were carried to the stage at which the goods could be sold." ' the Shortening Fingers Fresh Side Hams ip. 14c Pork x2 . 10c Ho gS o ock 16. I OC TO.AATO 3 293 Dsl d BB s M ts No HEINZ~KETCHUP, Large â€" < | kg. 2e C Bars 7 OX YDOL Carge Pkg. j lbs. Red Rose Capt. much Soap Rolled Qats "" Popk i. 14c TEA McCORMICK‘S Fig other. The chief reason they have not been trading in reâ€" cent years is because the Soviet has repudiated $700,â€" 000,000.00 owed to the United States and its people. If these debts are paid now, it would be a happy thing for the United States If repudiation is not repudiated, it would appear to be a foolish thing for the United States to do furâ€" ther business with Russia. never did babies A gentleman in Timmins on Poppy Da worker:â€"*"I want to go up street for a min much will ye tak to lend me yer poppy!" ndad DUuUusIness Chancellor Hitler, of / bies. ‘This baby busin would appear that there is United States may resumf . The chief reason they h n would ha days platform may w Our Want Ad. Column Brings Sure Results to be mad TWMREE BLE® Richmello Comfort Soeap GOING OQOVERSEAS? taton andtests a have acclaimed the: and zest. whole beans are delive im sealed packages OUR THREE BLENDOS FRESH ROASTED DA 39 Per Pound IMPERIAL BANK OF HEAD OFFICE TIMMINS . SOUTH PORCUPINE TA pt Chicken and 24â€"11), en with Rice) Hll}\" c t been trading 11 pudiated $ d its people. If | happy thing for *"Dominion." We buy and : that excessive prof the m ute or What I ha Shoulder of Lamb ib. 8C Roast Leg of Lamb ip. 18c Spare ALl he answe nsive packa Beef » 8c Experienced travellers rely on the conâ€" venience of Imperial Bank of Canada Letters of Credit to do two things: To simplify the problem of obtaining ready cashâ€"and to secure courteous Early Morning 2 [ aid in foreign countries. Imperial Bank of Canada Letters of Credit are honoured by our Banking Corres pondents in every country. § Ribs 15’5.25(: CINNAMON SUGAR CLARK‘S BEANS, 3‘s HEINZ KETCHUP, La: OX YDOL s Large IVORY FLAKES HEINZ BEANS, Club House OLIVES ; «/. )\ K oJ 0J . . To H. C. SCARTH, Manager . COOPER, Manager Run a B C 22 ¢ es from the Press rhaps 1 thitr Uporn mizht h the ‘cra p6 cman Inio beir 16 nt