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context of this agreement meant that Samsung agrees that Haudenosaunee have sovereign immunity to begin with. It was on those merits Detlor said an unnamed collective of HDI board members, chiefs and clan mothers came to the decision to go ahead sign the agreement, waiving that sovereign immunity. Detlor said these particular Engagement Agreements were brought into Confederacy Council and passed through. Something many chiefs and clan mothers disagree with. Hill challenged Detlor on that and said, "I've never seen it, Arnold Jacobs has never seen it, my cousin over here has never seen it." Detlor stuttered as he spoke to the question, explaining that this was the "first major agreement that the chiefs had gotten into." He continued to explain on behalf of the HDI saying, "... what we were trying to develop is this idea that we did have sovereign immunity on the basis that we shouldn't be treated any differently from the tribes in the states." Detlor also said that those involved in looking over these Engagement agreements identified that clause as something they were uncomfortable with, however they decided to sign on behalf of HCCC anyways. Detlor said that the term "sovereign immunity" does not mean "sovereignty" and that HDI subsequently removed that language from any further agreements. The Engagement Agreements were signed on behalf of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Chiefs Council in 2013 and 2014 by HDI Director Hazel Hill. Hill also questioned Detlor on his use of the word "chiefs". Hill said he spoke with five chiefs and three clan mothers who had never heard of nor seen the Engagement agreements. Hill asked Detlor, "When you say 'the chiefs', who did you discuss that with? Which chiefs?" Detlor responded saying, "All chiefs." Detlor tried to explain saying, "Those agreements in their entirety come to council, and every single - we gave out a copy - and this is something that we've been asked to - now what we're doing is we're emailing. So because we were getting issues we now email all of the documents out before council." Other concerns were raised that those elderly Confederacy chiefs and clan mothers, some of whom cannot read English or do not know how to use a computer to check email, are not being properly informed on what is being done by HDI on their behalf. Detlor insisted that the agreements were passed through council before they were signed. Then Detlor challenged Hill on voicing the concerns of the Onondaga Beavers. Detlor said, "Everyone is given notice of the meetings. And if you want to, five years after a deal is made, question the deal then you need to be clear about how many meetings you have come to, how many documents have come through this council and how many chiefs and clan mothers come to all of our meetings." Another part of the leaked Engagement Agreements legally binds the Haudenosaunee Confederacy Chiefs Council to actively stop or prevent Haudenosaunee citizens or "other persons" from demonstrations relating to those projects -short of paying them money to cease such actions. Sam General also spoke to the council and brought forward further concerns from the Cayuga Wolf and Snipe clans. They were given a document showing Detlor was involved in some negotiations with the OPP to stop the 2006 land reclamation at the former Douglas Creek Estates in Caledonia. Detlor first arrived on Six Nations territory and began working with the HCCC during that 2006 land reclamation. (Continued on page 15)