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knota the examiner Monday$opt 241979 Published by Canadian Newspapers Company Limited serving barrio and simcoe county 16 Baytield Street Barrie Ontario L4M 4T6 Bruce Rowland publisher CIICIllAIION 7266539 NEWSROOM 7266537 ADVERTISING 7266537 CLASSIFIEDS 7282 Middle ground on human relations legal questions aside we wonder if there isnt way of finding middle ground to end the human relations program debate The program to be field tested this school year has been hotly disputed by STORE and its membership of 1000 parents The board of education has moved far to insure that public opinion be included in revising the course before it an become permanent board program The Barrie Ministerial Association the Alliston Inter Church group and an rillia lawyer are among those in vited to review the course and suggest revisions to board trustees The question arises why not invite STOltlhto join the revision group The idea may not be that unrealistic STORE has said it would like to be allowed to review the course material But they have argued until now that the entire course be cancelled The board has reasoned that position rules out STORE for involvement in the revision process and for that reason have not invited STORE into the process It seems incumbent that STORE should see that the pro gram is more likely to proceed than not but only after significant revisions If STORE could recognize that and work within that framework then surely the board could do their part by in viting the group to participate in the revisions If STORE refused the invitation at least the board could say it had totally fulfilled its obligation for input from everyone with something to say on the course It seems to us that realistic give and takeby both STORE and the boardis the better route than litigation Why not challenge STORE to work firsthand with the board to benefit those who count mostthe children This group of prominent Barrie business men pictured back in two includ ed seated Middleton Barrie Hotel Ross magistrate and mayor John Grant lumberman Peter Mclntosh lumberman and his son Peter standing Arthur Barrand photographer Dummy Johnson town character Ben McDermott cigar manufacturer John Bennett in surance and later mayor Bigelow Bigelows Hotel unknown Dr Wells later mayor Douglas ieweller Sam Carson barber Alex Scott book store William Sibbald Walter Scott Photo courtesy Simcoe County Archives By VINCENT EGAN Business and Consumer Affairs Analyst Thomson News Service Home ownership has been sound in vestment throughout this age of inflation Other inflation hedges such as gold bullion up to $43352 Canadian per ounce from $3770 less than dozen years ago may perform more spectacular But real property is far more accessi le and more suited to the needs of the typical family The advantages of home ownership will be even greater now that the Clark government is proceeding with its plan to give tax credits to home buyers This is the same government that also was going to fight inflation and reduce public defi cits But politicians would always rather give money away than cut out waste The case for home ownership now stronger than ever is one that should be carefully considered by couples living in rented ac commodation Such families almost certainly enjoy larger disposable incomes than do those who are committed to longterm mortgage payments on house But too much of that extra disposable in come may be finding its way into shortterm satisfactions more expensive vacations cars etc than may be prudent The homebuying family on the other hand is building financial foundation and an asset that will probably keep abreast of inflation or even appreciate in real terms CREDITS The Tory proposal as announced by Finance Minister John Crosbie provides for tax credits of up to $375 in 1979 for mortgage interest and property taxes paid The maximum will rise in annual stages to $1500 in 1982 and following years Socialist and Liberal opposition critics may rail against details of the Tory plan but of course they wont block the introduction of Another incentive for home buyers permanent new giveaway program Those tax credits in themselves may not be major incentive especially since they dont materialize in the form of tax refund until several weeks after the eligible home owners tax return has been submitted in the spring And with interest rates rising every month or two the tax credit may be barely enough to offset the latest increase in mortgage borrowing costs Remember though that the person who rents is also facing periodic increases as time goes by with no tax credits or capital appreciation to look forward to but only the prospect of steadily increasing costs for accommodation TAKING THE PLUNGE Granted its very big step to go from the relative freedom of renting with its lack of responsibility for maintenance to long term financing commitment demanding monthly payment higher than rent and requiring substantial amount of cash as down payment Anyone who views economic affairs realistically however can see that inflation is here to stay and will probably worsen as it is doing currently rather than weaken The rapid rise in prices naturally works to the advantage of the home purchaser and to the disadvantage of say the young couple living in an apartment The nine successive 197879 rises in the Canadian bank rate have painfully demon strated the folly of waiting for mortgage market conditions to turn in the borrowers favor Thats not to say that house should ever be bought hurriedly without ascertaining whether the selling price is reasonable in relation to comparable properties and without some determined bargaining as to the price and the mortgage interest rate In principle however the case for home ownership is becoming stronger one BUSINESS 7266537 EDITORS ADVERTISING Craig Elson managing editor Stan Dtdzbolls city eoltor Bill McFarlane wire editor REPORTERS Stephen Nicholls Dennis Lanthler Nancy Figueroa Lori Cohen Tony Panach Richard Thomas Stephen Gauer Sue Bowen camera operator Terry Field CathyHeather Mary Delaney SALES Wayne Hay Aden Smith Steve Skinner Barb Boulton Peter Clark CLASSIFIED Freda Strinner Janice Morton Len Sovirk manager Calvin Felepchuk Peggy Chapell supervisor Bran Howcroll BUSINESS Maran Cough accountant Delve Mnls vttx Grant crime Hart Jean Bass Don Saunders Lorne Wass Wilt Cadoqan Stan Wray Bill Raynor Ron Gitder Ed Allenby Janie Hamel Susan Kitchen Yvonne Sierps PR ESSRJOM CIRCULATION Hatkes manager Steve wntc SSISBH manager Alva LaPtame Lisa warv lrtflf Porter Cher yl Aiken Fred Prince Kim Pattenden glint sealanulltin lllem6 Taxpaqersl Parliament Hill By STEWART MacIEOD Ottawa Bureau Thomson News Service Since Prime Minister Joe Clark was so roundly lambasted for suggesting Quebecers did not have right to decide their future its surprising that his more recent conciliatory remarks have not attracted more attention But then we are no longer in an election campaign His preelection comment that the people of Quebec could not vote themselves out of Confederation prompted cries of outrage from Clarks political opponents and it became central theme of the Liberal plat form as that party tried to portray itself as the exclusive vehicle for national unity The argument was that Clarks obvious in flexibility in denying Quebecs right to self determination would be disastrous for the nation It would Liberal Leader Pierre Trudeau argued merely strengthen the resolve of Quebecers to loosen their con stitutional ties with the rest of Canada So far at least its not working out that way Clark may have overstated things bit when he claimed credit for breathing new life into federalism but he has clearly impressed many Quebec editorial writers with his unexpected flexbility toward the provinces There hasnt been decent OttawaQuebec spat since the youthful prime minister as sumed office N0 FANFARE And with surprisingly little fanfare he has adopted highly conciliatory approach to the delicate subject of Quebecs constitutional future Considering the apparent headway being forged by Quebec Liberal Claude Ryan the undisputed leader of the federalist cause in the province Clarks approach might well be the most constructive one he could follow Each day Quebec Premier Rene Levesque invites me to make specific propositions because he wants to attack me the prime minister has said do not want to give him the target he seeks also need time to make sure that our propositions are ac ceptable to the rest of the country as well as Quebec Meanwhile the prime minister has quietly removed some of the aggravations that Le vesque had been able to attack in the past including that suggestion that Quebecers could not decide their own future What he meant explains Clark is that there IS no provision in the British North America Act for province to secede But for practical purposes he said it would be unthinkable for the rest of Canada to force Quebec to remain within the federation He also cleared up earlier suggestions from some of his ministers that Conservative government would not negotiate sovereignty association with any Quebec government SCOOPS ow YOU HEAR AbOUl mm BEING Arman DY war WHILE which received such mandate from the people Obviously federal government would have to negotiate with provincial government he said MAKES FRIENDS The prime minister who needs all the electoral help he can get in Quebec has won some new friends there for other reasons one of which was to allow the use of French in air traffic control The federal governments decision to give provinces control over off shore mineral rights along with the election pledge to turn Loto Canada over to the provinces was also welcomed But what seemed to please Quebecs editorial writers most of all was Clarks decision not to establish machinery for Backgrounder COMPOSING ROOM Jack Kerney foreman Glenn Kwan asst toreman AI Hanson toreman Don Near assttoreman The lorri Exomlnor is number of The Canadian Press CP and Audit lunau of Published daily except Sunday and statutory holidays WE EKLY by corner $5cents YEARLY by Carrier $49 40 BY MAlL Barrie Gmalatiom ADC Only tho Canadian Press may ropublish now storm in this moor credited to CF The Associated Pms Routers or Agonco Franco Prone aid local nowu Itorioo published in The Barrie Examiner to Iorrio Examiner claims copyright on all original news and advertising matorial crootod by in ornployoos and publisth in this twwwcpor Cppyrigh registration numbot WIS register 549 10 The advertiser ogroos that the publisher shall not be liable lot domogos arising out SIMCOE COUNTY of errors in odnrtiumonts boyortd the amount paid for the spot actually occupied 539 00 by that portion ol the advertisement in which the error occurred whether such or MOTOR THROW OFF Ml 503 year ELSEWHERE IN CANADA $41003 year udvlrliurnont mont OttawaQuebec fireworks federal referendum on national unity Trudeau had planned to have the machinery in place to contradict or doublecheck an erroneous or undemocratic Quebec referendum Some Quebecers viewed it as rather threatening gesture It was said the newspaper La Presse provocation and that Clark made the right choice Another comment in the newspaper was that this sign of goodwill can help spur dialogue And the influential Le Devoir said that Clark seems to be showing that Quebec can achieve peace justice and prosperity in federal system Just few months ago these same people were suggesting that Clarks alleged in transigence was threat to the federal system Former PoW recalls horror of war camps CALGARY CP Those who have never been through war may regard the Second World War as time of valor and glory But Canadian servicemen incarcerated in pris onerofwar camps in the 19405 have less romantic memories of that time Ed Shayler of Calgary is one of those servicemen He was one of 1500 Canadian soldiers who suffered the horror of Japanese Pow camp and is one of about 800 former Hong Kong PoWs still alive Shayler is fraillooking middleaged man who recently suffered heart attack Bone degeneration an ailment he says resulted from his 44 months as PoW left him with slight limp His memories of the war are as terrifying as they are instructive remember when we set out on the Pacific in 1941 headed for Hong Kong There were about 2000 of us on the old CPR ship the Awatea The men were in good spirits but they were oblivious to what was happening When we arrived in Hawaii nobody seemed to take much notice of the American war fleet that was being built up at Pearl Harbor And remember when our com mander told the men war with Japan was possibility lot of the boysjust laughed But Ill never forget the commanders words Dont you laugh he told them You may just fight your way off this ship CANADA OUTNUMBERED The Japanese declared war within days after the ship arrived in Hong Kong When the fighting broke out the Canadians were heavily outnumbered They had nothing there no aircraft or naval support After six weeks of fighting and with several hundred casualties the Canadian force surrendered Some of the men were imprisoned in Hong Kong and others were sent to Japan But Shayler spent most of his time at Kowloon on the Chinese mainland just across from Hong Kong He was incarcerated at prison called Sham Shwee P0 Japanese phrase meaning the camp of dirty water We lived in damp wooden shacks infested with insects and eventually pellagra beri bert and diphteria The Canadians had no clothes or blankets to speak of We slept on bare cement amidst leaking gas cans Shayler says pellagra and beriberi were the most Widespread diseases The former is niacindeficiency disease marked by skin eruptions and digestive and nervous disturb ances The latter is the result of thiamine deficrency characterized by partial paralysrs emaciation and anemia We were always in pain because of pellagra he says We called it hot feet because it felt as if your feet and ankles had been burned wrth hot coals Often the only way the men could sleep was with their feet submerged in buckets of cold water SURIRISE ME AFTER SOME OF HIS RECENT HAREORNva rot is due to tho negligence of its servants or otherwise and there shall be no liability tor non insertion of any advertisement boyond the amount paid for such Tho Publisher rouwos tho right to edit rovin classify or reject an odvfltisr Knowles ramblings Arthur Sland puzzling one By BILL KNOWLES Following Alderman Alex Arthurs inane attack on the positive proposals by the Barrie and lnnisfil Chambers of Commerce it ap pears to be up to me failing some other in terested citizen to make comment or two on the plus side The sad part about Alex Arthur is that he is one of perhaps two people presently sitting on the council that has the ability and capability to be good mayor in the future Hes one that would vote for at least But his stubborn and obstinate refusal to look at or act upon any means other than the present Court route for settling annexation with lnnisfil is his most puzzling deficit believe that he has some kind of mental block or possibly suffers from brain damage that has caused his strange behaviour can expect it from most of the other group of aldermen that parrot the mayor on the an nexation matter but always thought that Alex would come to his senses eventually Perhaps he will one day before our budget for fighting lnnisfil tops the million dollar mark but he had better hurry as we are close to that figure now Full marks to the two Chambers of Com merce for their proposal Kudos to Bill Gib bon and Trudeaushrug to Ross Archer for refusing the challenge It will drag on for another few years and the costs will increae disproportionally with little or no reaction from the general public and blind eye from the Group Of Seven on Barrie council whose motto is Obstinance First the Tax payer wont Mind INCREASED VAN DALISM Residents in the area of the defunct Kempenfeldt Place appear very concerned over the increasing valdalism and of course the number of fires that have been set to the ramshackle houses If we had more police we could have the ara patrolled much better One resident is planning large expenditure to build chain link fence around her proper ty for her protection Will it ever end cant understand what would be wrong with our council expressing public concern over the labour problems in Barrie and the resultant disruption of paychecks for those concerned This is certainly matter that should cause us concern and dont see how this would or could be classed as any form of Interference in the process am concern ed and if had some bright answer to settle the problems would not hesitate to express them Of course our council shouldnt have their noses into matters that affect the com munity such as nude dancers and labour unrest and pornography etc etc so they say anyway CAUSES CONCERN The park in the Tall Trees are will come under discussion sept 27 at Cundles Heights school at pm the Vandalism to the school property plus the safety of the children in the park is causing great deal of concern in the area and possible solution offered is to clear out the trees or at least large number of them Its drastic solution and interested citizens of the area should plan to attend the meeting In conclusion an interesting matter to all of us prescription for childs Tylenol drops without codein cost $597 at local drug store for 15ml of drops The pharmacist or person behind the counter who dispensed the Tylenol drops off the shelf with drug store label knew that the person buying the drops did NOT have drug plan The follow ing day the same person purchased exactly the same Tylenol drops off the shelf for $178 know have both bills in front of me as write this There must be some good reason for this apparent ripoff Probably as much reason as council has for refusing to settle the annexa tion matter Risky whiskey bothers Britons LONDON United States con tention that whisky can be risky is causing spluttering indignation among bibulous Britons The point of scorn is US Food and Drug Administration report this summer that says six brands of scotch whisky contain volatile nitrosamines substance that can cause cancer in laboratory animals British scientists say there is no proof the whisky nor alsosuspected beer contains enough of the culprit to be carcinogenic in humans FDA results were based on tests of single bottle samples of seven whisky brands and the nitrosamines were found in Chivas Regal Black and White and Ballantine Sandy Scot and Cutty Sark Popular beers available in Britain and the US such as Guinness Newcastle Dark Ale Skol and Heineken also were found to contain nitrosamines of up to seven parts per billion The brewers society put the lid on British fears immediately Average beer consumption in Britain is 2093 pints year per person the society said in statement At this rate it would take 250000 years to consume teaspoon of nitrosamines Breweries have assured anxious Britons with an affinity for the stuff that theyre likely to come down with an acute case of alcoholic poisoning before having chance to get cancer bible thought Behold stand at the door and knock if any man hear my voice and open the door will come in to him and will sup with him and he with me Revelation 320 Our eternal destiny revolves around the response we make to that knocking It will not always be it could stop today My Spirit will not always strive with man Let Jesus in He is there to lift you up and let you out