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gnux School bus charges disputed by trustee Incumbent school board trustee Bill Straughan disputed some pomts raised by trustee candidate Chris Black 20 and said it was good chance to give the political science stu dent lesson in politics You cant make statements Without the facts said Straughan at an allcandidates meeting at Assikinack Public School Friday night Black spoke before Straughan at the meeting Black said relative who is associated with busing com pany told him school buses are often only halffull even though sometimes two travel the same route He said this is waste of taxpayers money Black criticized some spen ding programs of the Simcoe County Board of Education and called for tighter control on expenditures He also said he has seen many schools without lights turned on in the evening He suggested that schools be made more accessible to community youps after school hours Our buses are overcrowd ed said Straughan dont know where he Black is get ting his information from Responding to Blacks call for tighter control of experi ditures Straughan said were already on tight budget Straughan said the public board often examines expenditures and has cut costs wherever possible COMMUNITY USE 0n community use of schools after hours Straughan said the public board has been stepping up its program in this area and we have better evening use of our schools than other areas of the province On other topics Black said fitness programs in schools should be reevaluated so that students are in better physical condition He said more em phasis should be placed on English grammar and Cana dian studies He said the human relations course now run on trial basis at some schools in Simcoe County should be required course but classes should not be coeducational and there should be stricter controls on who is allowed to teach the course Betty Thompson an incum bent trustee said she favors return to the basics of reading writing and mathematics She noted the cost of educa tion as whole is high and she wants to reduce any extras thatarentneeded Mrs Thompson said that largely because of inflation the cost of building schools has in creased in recent years and the board should investigate the use of empty classrooms and portable classrooms before undertaking the construction of new schools NOT IN FAVOR She said she is not in favor of implementing the human rela tions program as we dont need the education system to take over parental duties The other two candidates run ning for the three available Barrie seats on the public board Ross Leeder and incum bent Dr Allen Fisher were not at the meeting Garrett tells allcandidates meeting annexation fight has cost too much Ald Nelson Garrett Ald Janice Laking and Mayor Ross Archer each thanked about 80 persons for showing the interest to attend an allcandidates ses sion at Assikinack Public School on Friday night That was the only item the three mayoralty candidates agreed upon They chose different themes and concentrated on different topics in their presentations Ald Garrett said the pro vince should legislate an end to the annexation battle between Barrie and Innisfil township if the expected decision of the On tario Supreme Court is appeal ed There should be no further court action he said Its Ward candidates Traffic safety main issue at meeting lack of traffic lights and other safety measures on Little Avenue emerged as main issue during meeting of Ward aldermanic candidates on Fri day night All six candidates mentioned the issue during the session at Assikinack Public School Incumbent Ward Alderman Gord Mills said that if he is re elected something will be done about the situation at the points where Little Avenue intersects Fairview Road and Bayview Drive After talking to the traffic committee we reached fimi understanding that this is top priority for next year he told about 80 persons gathered to hear the candidates speak Ald Mills also mentioned closed meetings of council and said all council members are given advance notice of what will be discussed at closed meetings and they can protest One had point of closed counr cil meetings is that taxpayers arent informed about what takes place and they have lit tle opportunity to judge thc merit of aldcrincii in respect to the contents of the meetings he said Candidate praises utilities system touch of levity was added to Friday nights allcandidates meeting by Claude Watt the only candidate for the Public Utilities Commission tPUCI to attend the meeting Remember the name Watts wasnt elected in the last two elections and on Nov 13 want you to correct this foolish nonsense he joked with the audience The other people running for the two PUC positions are iii cumbents Ernie Alexander and Val Brucker Watts chose simple exam pie to illustrate the respon sibilities of the PUt If you get up in the middle of the night and open the refrigerator door the light goes on Maybe on your way back to bed you make stop at the bathroom and flush the toilet Thats what we do Power and water In more serious vein Watts explained that basically the commission buys power from Ontario Hydro and sells it to people in Barrie at cost He said the public utilities system in anada is the best and cheapest in the world its wonderful setup Wc sell it at cost to you We dont make money and we dont lose money You cant get it any cheaper cost far too much already He noted that the province does have the power to pass legislation ending the struggle and if necessary the province should do this he said He said after the decision the two sides should negotiate settlement clearly definc boun daries and begin working towards congenial rela tionship Ald Garrett said he is in favor of core revitalization but there must be sufficient tax base realized The alderman said that if he is elected mayor on Nov 13 he plans to reorganizc council Garretts council would keep the general committee system but would delegate more Kirsten Parker said install ing traffic lights at intersccr tions would be lmildrflitl apr proach and is not loiigrteriii solution if you tiiiiik iiurton Avenue is crowded now just wait and sec it in two years thrc is the plan that allowed this to hapr pcn IIIIIIUIIENI The future of dcvclopmcnt in Barrie is southward towards Ward she said This area shouldnt be cot sidcrcd bedrimn communi ty of liarric she said and oiic way to prcvcnt fccliiig of isolation is to improve public transportation in tlic aita Weslcy Sccgcr said Ward lacks recreation facilities likc tennis courts and soccer ficld but what we dont lack atc rough roads and traffic problems lic said the Fireball issui shows the nccd for ncw coiiii cil bcczitisc thc picsciit tillt couldnt agicc on such siiii pic issuc an wc coiitiniic With council that cant work togclhcl in anncition Sccgcr said masch land acquisition can authority to individual aldermcn Policy making would become the responsibility of council and aldernien would get ad ministrative duties which would probably include making motions Ald Ganett said In my experience if ou give people responsibility ey react in good way Ald Ganett said taxes are too high and if he is elected he will work toward nofnlls budget If Im elected Im going to direct said ld Laking She said she would make sure different departments are not overlapping and would more ef fectively use human resources like service groups oiin hurt our neighbors and create tension Dorian Parker said many voters lost confidence in the present council because of ex cessive secrecy and gross in decision And im not Johnnyconic lately siad the past mayor of Harrie She also spoke out against the proposed civic cen tic lloug iaggcs said council has shown lack of sound finan cial planning He said he moved to llarric iii years ago because of the many parks churches and schools and is worried that these items no longer have priority with tlic prcscnt council NI lSE laggcs called for effective land usc that rcspccts the or dinaiy citircii iciiy Hand brought up tlic issiic of snow removal and said that in the past two wars icsidciits of Ward havc had the boot thrown li thcni ylicn it canic ilillt for thc cit to plough strcctx Iil that iica and said sidewalks arc iiccdcd on Little Avcnuc lltitll llic iitil daiigcious tostiidcntsandpmicstrians Life in the zoo prison guard in the Barrie jail tells his story By MILGREW Of The Examiner Copyright 1978 THE BARRIE EXAMINER The animals are running the zoo at the Barrie jail Thats how one guard at the institution explains re cent disturbances that have seen nine prisoners charged with assault and four guards suspended guard from the jail agreed to an interview with The Examiner after being promised his name would not be used The guard said he was afraid of repercus sions He said there is group of prisoners between the ages of 19 and 25 who are little more than animals and do their best to torment the guards and other prisoners After they got those first charges laid against the guards it was over said the guard They wanted all the prisoners to charge the guards They were sitting there laughing at everyone He said prisoners would soap the floors of the jail and stand around waiting for guard to come along and slip on the floor The minute you slip on the floor and fall into one of them its assault he said But its not all the prisoners in the jail he add ed He said the trou blemakers are select group of prisoners that have grown up in institutions across Sim coe County and are now at an age where they are heavily into narcotics and dont know how else to react FOUR TYPES The guard said there are four types of prisoners being held in thejail There are the old regulars the drunks who are in and out so often the jail is second home He says these people do quite bit of work for the guards and can be trusted to great extent But he warns You cant trust anyone in there No one is trustwor thy The second group he says are people like you and You get picked up on drunk driving charge or something else and the police cant send you home Youre ut up in the jail overnight he said We try and treat these people well We put them in cell get them coffee peanut butter sand wich anything to make them feel little bit comfortable You think there but for the ace of God go He said the guards buy the coffee out of their own pockets and in the morning get Justice of the Peace there as fast as possible He says many prominent people have come through the Barriejail in this fashion but they will always remain anonymous Youll never get their names from any of our sources he said We respect and protect peoples privacy there Whether theyre the lowest on the street or mayor it doesnt matter HARDTIME The third group he said are those doing hard time He said many of these are from the pcnitentiaries and know how to do their time These guys very rarely give us problems he said They like to get their tobac co three times week and know where they stand Most of these guys cant stand to be in corridors with the young group Theyll come and ask us to put them in solitary confinement in the hole to get away from them The prisoners the niten tiary guys cantstan are the fourth group of prisoners said the guard The vast ma jority are kids between the ages of 19 and 23 24 or 25 IIIE WINKIES Theyre the winkics said the guard the local punks Theyre heavily into dope and generally speak ing are borderline ii literate The guard said most of them have atrocious hand writing aiid absolutely no grammatical construc tions He said theyd steal anything destroy anything They have no values and can be seen wearing jailhouse tattoos he said The tatoos are made using the staple from book of matches the carbon from burned tobacco and cigarette papers and the gum from the glue on the cigarette papers he said He also said they were congenital liars and had never worked more than day or two in their lives He said within the Barrie all this group of trou lemakers had cliques form ed He said most knew one another because of their long history in area institutions There are Midland rillia Penetanguishene and Barrie cliques within the jail he said inc of their favoritc tricks is to let off smoki bombs he said They do this by asking for lot of matches They break off the match beads and roll tlicin into ball using the tin toil from the tobacco they receive Then thcy tight thcm Youd think gun wcnt off when that happcns Its those subtle tactics that tlicy use to harass the guards He said these bombs go off as frequently as scvcn or eight times shift You know too many pm ple think of tlicsc prisoners as misguided cliildrcii theyre not he said These guysarcanimals He said many prisoners ii they dont like the mcals will throw them on the floor at the walls or at lhc guanls He said the two hot meals ttic prisoners get are better than most people receive The tension just builds and accumulates he said You work overtime and get overtired and little bit hyper MORE VIOLENCE He said there is more violence among prisoners than between guards and prisoners He said hundreds of prisoners have been taken to Royal Victoria Hospital in Barrie with broken noses and needing stitches because of fights between prisoners uuards will occasionally inure prisoners by accident ilc trying to restrain them he said Guards he said are not sadistic and wouldnt inten tionally hurt anyone But you just dont like getting the shirt ripped off your back several times night he said The judges see these guys in shirt and tie with ban daid on their head They dont see them frotliing at the mouth cursing and swearing and trying to punch you at three in the morning he said Just look at how theyre taken back to the jail from court by the police he said Theyre taken in leg irons and handcuffs Its only 150 feet He said these prisoners View the jail as hotel rather than place of punishment He also takes dim view of the mbudsmans suggestion that risoners be allowed afters ave lotion That stuff aftershave lo tion comes in glass bottles he said You give them that and you give them weapon Yourc asking for Hot or hostagc taking liltiiltlti it not tnatlcr ot dcny ing llltlll llltll rights its iviatci oi lolcctiiig socicty lliis iiiasiiniiin sttllltl prison youretalkingaboii iitlso ItiITtt llc said thc group of prisoners causing tln pro blciii just liayciit lcaiiiod tlic motto of pcintcntiaiy prisoiicrs it you cant do tin lllIlt dont dotlicriiiiic lhcsi guys dont know what jail sciitciicc is lic said llicy conic back attci gcttiiig llllti or tour ycars and think its kiss ihiiik what liappciis to tlic imt oi thcir valuc systciii wlicii that hapjxns The guard said all you had to do look it tho way tliisi piisoiicrs ticiitcd illtli lawycis lhcy sctitl out iiotcs llkt demand to ttt you today Yourc my lawyer And legal aid is pay ing for all this hc said llc said the ptlstitilis liatc their parcnts and llltll families bccaiisc tiicy wont put up their bail ihcsc guys dont iindcrstaiid that maybc you cant put up thcir bail hc said Maybe you cant put up that piccc of pro pcrty youvc vorkcd all your lifcforjiist for them He said lic has serious doubts about tlic wliolc pciial system in aiiada and said the return rate was about no pcr ccnt ltchabilitatioii doesnt work lic exclaimed The guy thats going to go straight will go straight by himself the rest is Waste of moncy IAIIUIIINS And he isolatcs tlic coiidi tions in illt jail as con tributirig to the problems said sexual offenders and homtxscxuals pose real pro blcm for guards who are try ing to protect them You may not like these animals but you remember that no matter how low human being sinks he deserves to live he said He said one prisoner in the jail used to lose at cards just so he could fellatc other prisoners he said Another allowed other prisoners to talk him into masturbating in the middle of corridors And yet another picks up pigeon feathers pulls apart dead pigeons and oiin manages to restrain from siting them the guard said He said the atmosphere in the jail is so tense you could cut it with knife lt llll llit worlds most dcsiialilc job in said otivc got to rciiiciiilici that you spcnd iiioic lllilt with tlicsc guys than you do with your lll oiiu ically got to try to stop youixcll iioiii iiicoining likc tlicni llc said lllt public should rciiiciiibci that thc guards iic Iloiin in job jlii liki any tillitl pib ilicyri tlicic for tiicir ciglit hours just llkt yoiirc at your job for eight hours hc Jtitl INlIt itlli Yoiirc trying to do job lic said Yoiivi got to try and giii dignity to liltist who dont lltt any protect tlic privacy of olhcis iiitl ticat illtiti likc llilil 4tlt if they arent acting likc incn iid whilc yoiirc trying to do this thcyic acting likc animals and the piibiic viis you as soon sort of monster on Georgia chain gang lliiii bcats up on piisoiicis tor laugh llc said tic wislics tliosc making tlic dccisions about illt prisons had tinic to work in iiiaxniniin security prison Thats thc problem hc said They listcn too much to ilic blotding licaits Wc scc it ill tlic illttt iarcnts conic iii lltlt and say tlur litr tic Johnny wouldnt do that Ycl littlc Johnnys the first punk to punch onc of thc iicw kids in the facc and is sitting around inciting cvciyonc else What revelation it would be to have close circuit TV on use guys or to bug llltll cclls he added You know tlicyit not like men They dont beat on each of her oncononc like man would its four or five punks that pick on the smallest iicwcst kid Ihcyrc sitting there laughing every time they see it in the papers Theyre laughing like hell He said the prisoners sole form of entertainment is tormenting the guards and the other prisoncis lie said guards at the jail have rcccivcd harassing telephone calls accusing them of causing the pro blcms at the jail because of media coverage of the jails problems You know its jail youre trying to run not iioliday Inn he said Then he added You know if youre iiol threaten ed two or three times shift youre working in an empty jail who are the real experts in the community OBJECTIVES Ald Laking said she would like to outline shortterm and twoyear plan of council ob jectives and then voters could look back and see how their chosen representatives measured up to what they said they were going to do She said she is prepared to ask the school board for leave of absence from her job as teacher because this city needs fulltime mayor annexation Ald Laking said we tltarrie asked for too much She said Barrie and Innisfil should plan our growth together as neighbors and ap proach the provincial govern ment and make them aware of combined needs Ald Laking is in favor of the proposed civic centre because we need space at city hall Mayor Ross Archer listed sevenpoint platform including the introduction of citizcns forum at city hall every three months in keeping with our policy of opening committee meetings to the press and public He told the audience the traf fic problem on Little Avenue is highpriority item and that the street has been scheduled for reconstruction next year Street lighting and sidewalks will be installed along with the reconstruction be said member of the audience asked the mayor why con suiting engineers wcrc so far off in llltti cstiiiiatis on various projccts costing us Elwood by their wrong gucsscs it didnt cost us anything morc We would havc had to pay it anyway Mayor Archcr rcplicd The consultants givc crincatcd gucsscs Sonic havi bccn vcry closc and sonic havc liccn faroff llc said council is sciking iiiw iiidustiy aiidjobs tor the ct ty and is working towards coin pitting community goals He also mciitioiicd thc vidcn ing of ilayficld Slitct thc watcipark dcvclopmcnt and tlic iicccssity of keeping iaxcs to Illlllllillilll the examiner Saturday Nov 1978 Calling all railroaders Model train enthusiasts from throughout the province are at Trinity Anglican Church today Hans Bocksdorf president of the Lake Simcoe Railway Modelers shows his son Mark part of his mining and logging train layout Examiner Photo Coming Soon CARDINALS 7th ANNUAL BIRTHDAY CELEBRATIONS Big Days of Advertised In Store Specials Plus Much More Nov 10 11 CFISIII moon BHHHU Hwy 26 27 Opposite Georgian Mall Barrie 7268132 MomWed 8am6pm Thur Fri 8am9pm Sat Barn5pm FRIGHTFULLY GOOD FUN LOTO CANADA HALLOWEEII If your Halloween Draw ticket portion letter and number those drawn youve won in match exactly Loto Canadas Nov 3rd draw Check the num bers below Check your Halloween draw numbei for the special TGIF draws of Oct 1320 27 Nov 10 17 and 24 which offer thousands of cash prizes from $100000 to 520 Also dont forget the December lst Draw for 12 chances at million and Chances for $100000 K157911551 H$107000 1414663 $1009000 H90199$1ooo n59351s1oco 44653$1ooo Hm0189$200 9351r200 Jw4663oio$200 H189$100 kmw251¢100 663o$100 Hmw89t20 Sl$20 63voo$20 Winning licket numbers will be IdildUiIIlV drawn for the Super Stiipiisc lat kiitics 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