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oao masons cc are Phone Subscribers Complain Of Service Telephone subscribers of the 0m Telephone Co Ltd had Lehance to complain about their service yesterday to the On tarlo Telephone Services Com mission and all those who spoke excepting one delivered service it seemed that hardly customer was satisfied The public meeting was called at the Oro Township liail to bear subscriber or potential subscribers who were for or against petitions that had been such an Indictment against the rent to the commission com plnlnlng of the service Members of the commission are ltfr ilynn Norman Curry Gerdon Bennett Carl Dance and it Glen lfodgson Aiuusrnc The meeting was spiced with omuslng Incidents of people making calls from Toronto to Ora to find that the line was husriongienough furtlteparty to make the motor trip to his home to receive his own phone call Another customer had to put on snow shoes in the thick of winter travel mile to Bell telephone to get service Anothcr Irate subscrlbfl re ported hearing conversations from his phone even while It was in its cradle This raging callediflig storm blessing in disguise because tor months prior he had at tcmpted to have it serviced to no avail The lightning event uaily destroyed the phone and it had to be replaced Another man admitted chang ing his own phone because he said it was the only way to have the instrumcnt serviced Another customer simply said Thirty years ago the service was as good as anything being offered In the provincetoday its rotten Coupled with these complaints however were others of for mora serious and forboding not are Frank Dingman Shanty Bay probation services officer for the county said the service was grasst Inadequate bath for personal and occupational use He said this feeling was held by others such as an as sistant crown attorney voter inarian Provincial Police oft Icer other probation oiticers and prominent industrialists think the directors have 21 can but ouidbe raised to bring the service up to standard or it should be turned over to someone who can he concluded To show that all the cam plalnis werent just from the Shanty Bay area Ernest Booth who operates business on Highway it sold all the busi nessmen on the highway shared his belief that the service was inadequate and the only reason why petition outlining this complaint wasnt 100 per cent signed was because some do clined due to business reasons and pressures Albert Anderson president of the company said he has plead ed for many years for better service Angus at Shanty Bay said two to three thousand de pend on this inadequate ser vice for such things as medi cal supplies and emergency ser vices and it just isnt effective Mr Flynn finally called halt to the proceedings after he and the commission felt they had received crosssection of the general feeling among sub scrlbera Before closing he said the commission would make some ruling on what must be done within the Ora telephone net work At regular meetingnext 0c labor in Toronto the commis sion could permit the Bell Tele phone to go into the township and compete with the ore sys tem or it could instruct the Oro company to bring Its services up to standard If It found that this was not the case or it could even instruct that some sort of sale be negotiated that would bring the service up to standard PETITIONS The meeting was actually called after the commission re ceived five separate petitions which no people signed along with 14 letters of complaints from individual llmaxed three shareholders meetings which ended as atalemates when shareholders refused to vote the necessary twothirds majority which would permit the sale of the Oro company to the Bell Telephone Co During his indictment against the company Mr Dingman said it was sometimes actually im possible Vfo communicate be tween home and business ln addition he said of this has an adverse effect on the affairs and the progress of this township and has been aIg nificant in retarding the town ships growth The conditions cost time money and good will said Mr Dingman This subscriber along with the majority of others who spoke were emphatic In their ha ellcfth company and more than one subscriber said that he wanted this made known The equipment is justso old that It is impossible to work with said one customer After each speaker who spoke against the telephone system there was loud applause from the audience of aboutlso in the tiny Community Hall At one point Percy Crawford an outspoken proponent of keep ing the company to are nsrsl mission but was refused by ground that the meeting was called to hear subscribers and potential subscribers favor of the company was Nor Amh custom Rimmed man Stoddsrt who defended the about the service charflt say ing It costs 10 cents to call Barrie which is 17 miles away slight seem sensible to start ng cause negotiations were under way for sale to Bell Tele phone In some cases and 15 cents to call last three or four miles away This complaint was made by Tyson Langman subscriber and shareha cr pen itdro in the event of disastch How long would it take us then to get service The same through the company then decid mt1fl 55km Withhwould hop edtostartearediuiidlngpro gram and in fact had cable that was ready to be set up when the new board of directors piained about the inadequate re pair service while Fargo harson also of Shanty Bay told the commission If the length of time that it sometimes takes to get central even belore tele phone call is negotiated by the perator Newton of Hawkestone whose business is vegetables hands tried to addrus the com id beam at vice there is definite adverse Chairman Flinn oaths effect onmy income DEFTENDS COMPANY The hne man who spoke to ormer directors action in that few years ago he lie said that when these fell go said he has no Rosser present sub scribcr and shareholder and the man who headed the faction to attcniotto force sale to nail belore hisresignalion as presi dent of the company two months in his business adxanyrtreubler calling Europe or any part of North America when using Bell telephone and yet daily would permit this Mr Stod dart said he has received good telephone reception from such places as Caigory my Mr stoddart asked the com mission to call general elec tion among the shareholders for would attempt to negotiate sor sale to the Bell or some otin arrangement Frank Hersey and his finance GEORGE NORTEWAY oi GH Wood and Company Ltd watches Arnold Clemente cen AidG alrillnhfl egg ovnswnomrottomaninn mfignlm at tggtcfstfl too happy about the way Aid drag on via said that he had it in his mind to have the property tre receive paubookfor his newlyopeued savings account from Canadian imperial Bank JWins Interest OnSMillion 030000 Clements of 103 Queen street superintendent of the two Lagging4 Jeatéitlléumullrllngsfoundci naked Aid Roberts new savings account at the Can adian imperial Bank at Com of Commerce manager Earl Little Mr Clements bad 19 the interest on 31000000 for one day deposited to his new account Examiner Photo or one day Arnold This sum was deposited to his ed might not be in the big leagues when It comes to poli tics but the majority of them can hold their own when it comes to twisting words red around request from the Barrie Lions Club to put boat on Dunlap Street for two weeks prior to draw that is being Hons Club said the club could have mud better ticket receipts if permissl the boot on the main street prior to the draw At present iacent to Dunlap street NUT NEW before City Council but it is one that has been repeatedly turned down present council appeared about ready to Invoke the some ruling do with the funds realized from the draw to pay off some at bank debt incurred by the club in building the swimming pool which we in whnLlnmen mm turn turned over to this City motions to the Fire and TrnfflcsCommitteczurder Aid Earle Williams who returned with possible solution about two hours later following coun has had phone Ora it takes an average of about five minutes to make routine call and sometimes this runs up to about three hours said Mr Rosser ENTITLED TO SERVICE The subscribers to this ser vice should receive the service to which they are paying and are entitled he concluded There are about 650 subscribers or the Droicxchnnge Others took the floor to com plain of having is to 22 sub scribcrs on one line only two or three trunk lines to Barrie dif ficulty in determining what ring was forwhom and the comp anys absolute refusal to allow private or semiprivate lines or the Bell to provide Ila ser vice In Ora territory George Lucas subscriber and Professor of Medicine at the University of Toronto appeared and told of the extreme diffi culty in getti lougilistancc1 would like better service and am prepared to pay for it said Mr Lucas Rechnitzer subscrib er and president at the lilac Laren Advertising said he is loath to use the telephone for problems trying to business with so many people her 87 retired banker who for years made up schedules for the American and National Baseball Leagues on the line Mr Rechnltzer said hehas often tried without success to make calls from his Tomato office to his home near Shanty 62 convicted spy who attempted Bay and has sometimes ar to escape life sentence in the United States of brain damage after an overdose of barbitur ates Montreal John Reidy 6ft theatre manager who was star of silent movies rived home before the calls are completed He said he was eventually forced to install mobile telephone in his car at some considerable expense It was Billes who com in cesarean is Campbell deputy commission er of the StJohn Alnbtslancc iii St John Inspection Night The St John Ambulance Bri gadc held its annual inspection at Barrie Armoury last night inspecting officerwas Lt Col onel commissi er who was accom panied by Mrs Walter Denison provincial superintendent inspected on their emergency treatment measures including first aid home nursing train ing and general overall pro fioiency Tum young boys agiri and man were last nights simu lated casualties One of the ed and otheriboy wa re multiple fracture of leg bone The man was made up to resemble an old person suffer Ing with an ulcerated lag and the young girl was supposedly However Mr Stoddort had no sooner taken his seat than more subscribers were on their to complain Weld summer resident of Shanty Bay continued the bar rage oi complaints against the service feet Douglas DEATHS ay rue cannula rnass Belgrade Yugoslavia Erlt isb writer Alex Brown 62 translator of several Yugoslav lan works into English Moscow Academician Vla dimir Klimav 70 who super vised the designing ot engines for bombers during the Second World War and designed alr craft jet engines after the war GuelphWaller Bailey 65 first 50year employee of Gen eral Electric Company VancouverJung chk Chin sopfatherofdlauglasJuugr was the first member of Parlia ment of Chinese descent Tomato MrsJack Marr Canadian Olympic sprinter in loan and wife of world rec committee are handling negate tlons with the Canadian Nation al Railways for property het wecnthc hay shore and Mem orlal Sonora Let us in on some of the negotiations so that the council can draw some battle lines on this matter said AId Roberts Aid ifersoy Immediately in formed him that this was im possible because it could Jea pordize the citys position in negotiating the purchase with the can Ono at the contentions points between the factions is wheth er the building on the site should be torn down before the sale after or ever Aid Her sey Indicated that the vacant building would definitely be torn down with the city hav ing parking in mind for the arcs Meanwhile draft offerior purchase has been submitted for thc CNRs consideration The offer has not been disclos ed to the public the committee should stay quiet for present while negotiations are underway to finance roar rdholding speedskotcr BostonClemente Schwe London Dr Robert Soblen Special Council cleared up by the Christmas rush to givo the downtown mer chants competitive break ttierc Is definite parking problem in this vicinity and this is something that could help to iron it out said Alli RobertsI Aid Mills said it would likely be three more weeks be fore tho CNR rcturns anon swer to the citys bid Jae alderman auid tbaLtha property was only released for sale August 25 and that the finance committee has worked hard since of Aid Roberts Aid Mills asked Whats he chewing about Aid Morrow said that it was his opinion that the fin ance committee had done good tab so far and that It was foregoncconcluslon that the building would likely be torn down but he wanted to know who was going to do it this wintErlhe property could be used for practice ses sions by tho Kempentelt Trum pet Band Session Ponders Question Of $2 Million Plan Barrie City Council will meet In special session next Tuesday night for what might well be the costliest and mostmomentus decision that has come before the body in many Wars tailrs to member of the brigade at the Armoury last night during the inspector Examin Pho Persons GivenCertilicates The meeting is being held to give full consideration to the citys sanitary sewerage da velopment program which was prepared by the technical com mittee for sewage The men who comprised the committee included Gigg city manager Tamblyn city engineer Murphy PUC general manager and Elson PUC secretarymam ager In recent weeks thecom mittee has been working with the City Development Commit tee Public Works and tho PUC The extent at the program Is the construction of trunk sewer BITUllliY MRS CLARA CARSON Fuaeral service for Mrs Clara Carson 72 who died recently in Penctang General Hospital was held at St Johns Anglican Church Craigiurst interment was in St Johns Cemetery Craighurst Services were conducted by Venerable Archdeacon Light baurn assisted by Rev Will Iam Newman MrsCarson was born April curse on Accession Zot Fins Township the daughter ofMr and Mrs William Snider She Wasarngnsb tth An Church Surviving are son Wallace Carson Santa sister Mrs James Daherty Myrtle of Georgetown brother Oliver in pain due to an ankle frac ture and broken collar bone Campbell deputy hy Cpl Day= and CplJae vaalski both of the Army Medical Services Training School that the spectators looked at the Members of the brigade were casualties In near disbelief ning far brigade members was flit presentation at three cer ot the Barrie Nursing Division and Sgt William Newton of the first cogoirl passed to yearly first aid ex aminations consecutively rented with 12year scrvica award with the Nursing Division victim of skiing accident So realistic wasthc makeup Another highlight of the cya an Officer Lilian Gracuy mbulancc Division received lil oertiticstes in or Miss Florence Sims was pro Snider Midland four nephews and two nieces Localtllfii Smith and Stone Ltd Georgetown and Assem Flowers were received from lililiilllti JUELL an 55531 CALL FUEl near mains to he carried out over threeyear period as re commended in the report and construction of secondary sewage treatment plant to be started as soon as it is practical This could all be approved at next Tuesdays session The special report states For all practical purposes we are talking about $2000000 sewage project One of the one aspects of the report is if adopted it would put sewage treatment on pay as you you basis Up to the present time the city has financed its sewagesystem by means of general tax levy The city hopes to get fair share for everyone on this basis full report on the report will be published on Wednesday bly and Stores Department Smith and Stone LtdgGeorgc tbwn Pallbearers were Ben Mil burn Gordon Siratb Arthur Coir 0Hailoran Allan Richardson and Wills Evenhuis Relatives and friends from distance attending the funeral were Mr and Mrs Oliver Sni der Midland Mr and Mrs James Doberty Georgelo Mrs itf Fleming Mrs kins Mr and Mrs Flam ng Toronto Mr and Mrs John Doberty Georgetown Mr and Mrs William Doberty Milt Miss Glenna Doberty Toronto and Dr Aroma Toronto Mrs Ken Vesper Searbo Mr and Mrs Jack Dillon Li pany erected 15foot high aenteeisrn edropped the suggestion Mr and MELFlank Bla Tomato rarnrnnous OFFER ON 100 DALON aaoaoloon 3119 ANvaze up TO 192 SQ FT iboons COMPLETELY INSTALLED voun caorca 16 COLOURS os MODERN TACKLESS INSTALLATION Heavy anaerst or rooms noeav sowoanauo co lahranysr alarm merge yesterday by bank man ager Earl Little George Northway North ern Ontario Division Manager of the if Wood and Com pany Ltd presented Mr Cie mcnis with the check and con gratulated him on having bought the winning ticket on Labor Day Mr Northwoy said our com milliondollar moneytrca at the this represented the huge daily 055 of preventable sickness ab and draw was held each day until the end of the exhibition Iollilie Has Key To End Meetings Aid Les Jolliffe seems to have found the key that brings leng thy Earrie council sessions to bring mttremely controversial issue that prompts other members of council to move that the meet ing adjourn Last night as it appeared that council would continue for an indeterminate period of time Aid Joliitfe stood up and said What about the trattic hazardiln front of the dairy Aid Jolliife continued This Is hazard that has been brought to my attention by many people Just because they have high ways permission or council permission doesnt make it any less hazbrdaus he eonhnued What about itf mova that council ad learn said Aid Mills Ill second that said Aid Earle Williams The motion wascarried by council andthat ended the dis cussion and the meeting Science New Shrinks Piles Without Pain or Discomfort Farris Substsnoa ran Relieru rm And itching to Shrinks liaoonheirla Toronto Ont onionFor the first time release has found new healsugsubstanm with the abshtybo shrink hemorrbaidaand to relieve gain and itching Thousapds ave been relieved with this inexpensive substance right Lathe privacy of their own home Without any discomfort or inconvenience In case after case while gently reliavmg sin actual reduction shrinkage topic place oat mazsnghot aliresults were so thorong that auflorors made statements like Piles have ceased to be problemi The secret is anew healing aub stancotBioD discoverynta iamouascientitlerns tut2 Nowtblanewbeaiingaubstanaa isotleredinsa positomarotnfmant formccatiledl dgpnrgig Ask on Mignmnm Williams was that the Lions club request be granted pro vided that the club pay for park Ing meters used by the boat We downtown stores have greed to permit the boat to be parked In front ot their busin esses for the stipulated time the fly in the ointment by in quiring just how legal this was tgcausc wash his opinionthat eapsr yawsstipuated Canadian National Exhibition which must be moved after parking for one hour vehicle must be moved after other nickel in the machine though sympathetic with the service club position indicated that he would vote agoinattha motion to permit the blot to be lodged at parking meter asked Aid Roberts5ifyou give THE BARBIE EXAMINER TUESDAY SEPT ii 82 Councillors Adept Twisting Words Members of Barrie City Coun it to another feel that it should be selected Aid it Marsellus said We have overstepped before and It wont hurt to do It again it wouldnt hurt for two weeks Aid lea Jolliite said other merchants might not agree with the Idea at having the boat on the main street SIDESTEP The council then got back to the mayors point and some of the councillors decided that they could neatly sidestep the issue by telling the Lions Club that It could park the boat on the street If It was legal Five minutes hdore city employees informed council that It wasnt legal recorded vote was taken and the following voted in favor of allowing the Lions Club the privilege provided the move was leg The entire Incident was cent id September 29 iii Oates member of the on was given to put is on private property ad Tbe request Is not new one by past councils The bemaldormaaassedmcwt Vllsoo Barfly What does the club intend to ww toms and Maya Les Cooke Ald Roberts Aid Jolliffe and Aid Emma stuck to their original belief that the Idea would establish dangerous pre cedent and voted against the motion Tickets bn available at Mr Oates replied We intend theboat are one The request was promptly the Ora Worlds recess The motion offered by Aid Squadron of Grey and Simone Foresters will hold its first parade of the 196263 train ing season at the Barrie Arm oury at oclock tonight Noticcs have been sent to more than 100 persons about to per cent of whom are high school students instructors in the various courses GrSfBotF hette gunnery Sgt ii Queen nationalsurv Sgt Pattenden recruit training Sgt Bmwn driver and maintenance track and wheel courses Sgt it Carson wireless Sgt MacDonald first aid Motor Howard is in command of the squadron Other officers are Capt Steele IC Lt Stew art national survival and re cruit training LLB Miller IC driver and maintenanc It was Mayor Cooke who not This was confirmed this morn ng by The Examiner that arising for one hour and it snt satisfactory just to put an Meanwhile Aid Roberts ol Does this open new doorl and liaison nndLtrLavign aonc then you have to give range officer WHATS THE iNSIALMENT PLANWAY 10 save FOR THE flllllltt Suppose torexample he has the makings of training Itstime to start looking after his future with the help of Scotinbunks Personal Security Program or FSPJo protected savings plan thats EXclusive with The Bank of Nova Se how P5P worker you select uscvings not from $100 to $2 500 full amount of your goofoi no added cost to you When you reach your goal youcollect all youve saved plus cash basins PSP is the ideal way to for any future for holidayabroad or boot new home Ask aboutstSFot your neurostScoltabank Lt Gamble public rela as