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I? ls Expressed Wish of Barrie} Presbytery; Vote, `T ` " A33 to 17. THE` * _B3_4\RRIE * EXAMINER 4225` comes 1 Invnnov V Va o Trust the People While he had been in favor of Unioneup till 1921, Rev. John MC-.- Nabb of Midland thought it unfair to press the measureunder prese_nt conditions without" consulting the membership. What was there to be afraid of?. `A vote could not be dis; astrous. Surely the -people could be trusted; No clergy had the right to force anything upon the people. '|'__ _-____..-_ ._ 1 Mr. Gilmour vigorously condemn-E ~j'ed the effort to push this` Union: `through without letting the people, have an opportunity to express an: opinion after learning the conditionsf of Union set out in the bill. I` don't! know any set of men moreabsolutelyf determined to have their own way! than the leadersof the Union move! ment, he declared. I I Impedes Co-Operation_ ; _Rev. W. A. Beecroft, minister of a co-operative charge at Graven-J hurst, pointed out that one difficulty ` in the way of getting full support, in nancial matters in charges such, llas his was the existence of two de- nominations with separate funds. This difficulty would be removed by Union. His experience had ,not' Lshown him that Methodists and Pres-' l\lIV ll usual: uaauv avavvlluulv all A I-\aa' vblyterians would not` mix. In a pre- vious eld he had found the nest kind of spiritualunity between Meth- odists and Presbyterians and in his present co-operative charge `there was a finer. spirit than is found in many Presbyterian churches, because of what the former are trying to. achieve. 3 " Wants Bulk Behind It I ~ Rev. F..W. Gilmoul" of Penetangl said he voted for Union the first; `time, with the understanding that; [Union would be consummated if en-l idorsed by the bulk of the church.; ;This endorsation had not been givenl `and therefore he was `opposed to} ,Uni_on now. It is not a matter of: [opinion/ he said. It is a matter of; iprinciple. If we are not going to; {have abiding principles in our church} Iwe will have chaos. 3 unnnvu, uu;u 1.. nun IO VIDIUII. U1. 9' (A 5'` er and better church--the United ,1 `Free Protestant/Church of Canada.? This would mean larger efficiency; =and greater economy and would blaze 3 {the trail for a larger union in chris-ti ftianity. _ . V _ 3 ; V i C ' _ ;amount of success and he did not see It had bee urged that `me blgiwhv Barrie` could not also have a} -lchurch W1d "015 be m1'e effective lsiniilar organization. Clark Scotti :ltha the Presellt 5-Vstem N0 eEmo\'ed that a Lacrosse League be` [Wants just 3 big chulvhv Said thelformed under the O.A.L.A.. `rulings. U SPe3ke1'- Christianity is doing with lHis motion was seconded by Charles ills What ills doing fr 0? V1't3:Hunter. John Dobson moved that a; i ll`. India 'h are Pleading f1' 3 'i"' irepresentative from each team assist! _ dlf-fenous hu1'0h- S0 We W37"? 3 {the Boys . Work Board in conductinsri ` church -that will meet the needs of jfhp lnqgue, Ross Cowan suggestedi L our work in Canada- that Board be asked to make a spe-l ' Says Union Leaders Unfair jcial ruling, that if players did not: 1 Rev. L. McLean.of Bradford saidfconduct themSe1VeS P1`0DeI'1.V 011 the; `he was in favor of Union, had work- 3field that the? be expelled from `the led and voted for it. He favored a ileazrue. John Dobson. in renly. said-l lspiritual union and not an outwardgC3-"Milan boys do 11015 Wish to do` and-mechanical union.` The Union lbedilfv. harm to theii` fe1l0W.S- and it; leaders he `accused. of taking unfairils 3 ?'9`f"7'ee'-Q Doeitlen t0 attend 170,7 means to gain their ends. He sharply fan) !'011~. h Playing`- . criticised the doctrinal requirements` Ail? last -n"la"9' Charm` Hun`: `for ministers, saying that a Mormon, itel` and Reginald Blaeketoek Were 2111-! a Christian Scientist,.a Seventh Day P0inted 39 3 Cemmittee '00 inteI`VieWL {Adventist or a Roman Catholic could fm`ml"'-- Of the B0375 Work 303 to: Esubscribeto them; `gain their sanction and support of a ' U R PmteSt'ant- Church ' `local Boys Town'Counc1l. Reginald , - _ . , Blackstock "stated that he had been i C J` Mlner elder ef Onn1e' whee ill and could not attend any meeting`. I eedmittieg that the Presbyterian lCbarles Hunter remarked that therel Church could never be A the sameghad been no opportunity to present; ' I [again because of this agitation over`: lUnion, said he had a vision. of a,1arg~i= ? .....J 1...... ..1_....,.1_ u... `l T...'L_.I ":V|lYL* cant] ......i.... 4.1.:.-...- ...1..-,...4. ....1_--__ i ilL.Y U1 U1-KC blllpllkllg Union will no doubt ause trouble bef"e '5 and nancial loss for a time, but are :'hed]' we not willing to make sacricefor` Job D the present to secure.future' gain? f"ati7 I e asked_ V ' Estated tl . 1 |`nnn-nc. uy va. R23. w. J. Watt. speaking to his overture, said that he felt discussion would accomplish little. as the mem- bers were pretty well determined what stand they should take. There- fore he spoke briefly. With reference to the opinion cited by Mr. Farley regarding` Saskatchewan, Mr. Watt said he had his own personal exper-' ience of the trying conditions in the! u in asaanauuaan Ill uauaua. I West, where there is such waste of men, material and effort through ov- erlapping. Anyone whohas worked in those Western mission elds must realize the need of such a movement. As for Mr. McGillivray s contention as to the constitution of the General Assembly not being representative of opinion, Mr. Watt argued that on the whole sweep of the church the com- missioners would average up the sen- timent of the people. Wants It Settled ' He pointed out that` his motion was not a Union proposition-all it asked was that the question be set: tled one way or the other. -The drop- ping off in mission funds was due to restlessness over Union, which unrest was having a`paralyzing effect. To put the question of? another year would increase the decits. What I say is to let them decide it one way or another, said the speaker. If, they think it will cause too much fric- tion, let them drop decide it." . '_LL I___-J LI,_L 1,011-, it, but let them I l 1 l ` `""'""" iwould place the problems of the boysi R d` th 1'tthttl1 . `ASSeer,:z115y1nad :h:(I)1l;1_)da1l`iltS olfiginai lbefore the meeting, . `attitude of regarding unanimity as! Jh DbS urge`; that a Tums} necessary, M,._ Brown Said itlwas Baseball League be formed. Although; quite possible to change l0ne s mind Where '35 _Sf me }?-let1ng "_`"`g _t"i under the guidance of God_ Thatgthe probability of it conflicting Wliih; waS what the Assembly had d0ne_jthe Baseball League, it -was` a case of honest, sincere men change 5 decided to organize. 3 league. and; iing their minds and guiding thelpol-?P1a.V an emi"ati" Schedule in 1`d*`! icy of the church . `that the schedule would be completed; I e_ause trouble f'1,_"Lfh":'f1nthe beginning f the S-S- 3`: The maintenance of the Presby- ! I iterian Church is not the supreme is- sue,?. said Mr. Watt, in conclusion; The advancement of God's Kingdom! `is paramount. The question is, cang we do it better by stopping now and! retracing our steps or by going for-( i wardto greater effort in _the contem- I I i I 1 plated Union? M Moderator for Action Rev. Geo. _A. Brown, the moder-1 `atorgieft the chair to support the? \motion. He declared that he had al- him that he should be an Anti-Un-3 .ionist. ' 5 ' I I I ways been a Unionist because he :i could never find anything to convince why you `should doubt his sincerity or his spirituality.- He did not wish. to coerce anyone. Let each decide the matter for himself and act ac- cording to his conscience. . Church for Canadian Needs 60d)` Year ..- -- ------ `_-..,vv-,, uoolvn, Whereas, the members and adherents of the Presbyterian Church have had no op- portunity of registering their opinion on the manifestly unfair Draft Bill of Union as published, which compels non-concur- rents to enter the proposed United Church without` the right of recording by ballot their dissent` or protest, and leaves, them without any church status if they with- draw 5 \1wu\In4vcVln u. \l-Jen-QJIV uunvu, Whereas, any actionso drastic as the setting aside of V certain features of Pres- byterian polity, or transfer of Presbyterian property or Presbyterian trust funds to another society should be supported by at least two-thirds of the total membership of the church, instead of by, less than one third, as at present (113,000), and; 1111.-..-.-_ AL- _____,I I I I icon: v I `J ugu J.1La_Vlll. ;` ennviave. , {tar ,ipointed to 1 iYl'lE mi9.TS Board sanction support a Town` Council. ,'RI:2ckstock ;ill '!Cbnr1e.c_ there! Eghad present; uuu u!7\JlCllCU IIU 0l7,UDU Ill I.Ul.0j Whereas, since the vote of 1915 was taken the Assembly of 1916-1921 records show that 97,587 communicants have been received on profession of faith into full fellowship. and in the same `ratio of in- crease will at the close of the current year, be 113,000, none of whom now on our membership roll have had the privilege as members of expressing their views on the questionof organic union; []1]_____ ____ __43_ , _ I .~ .1 UV .l;\MVn 1V. I1. mcuuuvruy ` T77 ereas, the majority vote of 62.267 polled in favor of Church Union in 1911 had decreased to 39,685 in 1915; morgue n:nnn OI-us Ivnfis 4.` 1015 nun. IVUI IVIIIP (`D AIL ylcaacac Mr. McGi1livray'said he was an- xious for another vote largely in the interests of harmony. He was not at all convinced that the one big church would be to the best interests of God's Kingdom in Canada. `D-.. TIT `I 117-14. .._--1_:_... .L_ 1,! I ""$ "" l"."".["" i Rev. Dr} Ephrai Scott o; n-i gtreal. who is one of the most `active! Iopponents of. the Union, was nomin-I fated for moderator of the General; i Assembly. . h T g I -..u . ` E`ll:lra`lli7i n `3ieiC'li"}'he years of discussion `on the matter of church union, and the i ample opportunity that has been given for our church to express its will upon the issue, we as a presbytery of that church are `of the opinion that no further delay or re- `consideration of the matter. can `be of any real advantage, and we do earnestly ask ithe Assembly of 1923, meeting at Port Arthur.. to deal finally with the matter ithat has been before it so long, and we `do hereby pledge our loyal adherence to the I finding of the Assembly. MnI7nA'h\Iv DA Quintin` Enninuo annnnzlnol llllllllls UK 0115 flcululyu Moved by Rev. Samuel Farley, seconded ibv Rev. N; H_ McGillivray mnrnon l-us vno:nu-Hay cu`-:4-n A` R`) `DR , ! . I Mr. Farley` spoke for over twenty iminutes but none of the others morei lthan ten minutes and some consider- jrably less. I I f\_ LL- ..-.__`I-_._2___ -1 :1- 1,1 ,1 | - ......._. 51,495.75 | On the conclusion of the debate, },a standing Vote showed 33 to-~17 in favor of again consulting the people. 1\,. 1\' 11 1. no`- I zgalvidvouhhvbobson spoke in favor of the] } formation of a Lacrosse League. Hes ;stated that St. Catharines _had a [league which had met with a large! Eamount of and he did see Tfwhy Barrie a ;similar Scott, ;mo\*ed- a be fm-med O.A.L.A.. -rulings. His Charles` `;Hunter. '%representati\fe assist! the Work conductinsri be spe- iconduct .2fie]d expelled thel lloon-no Tn`-In hnknam 3.. .......`l..- .....`l -u_.&,.: uuu uannc uuausa auuuau uuut:a.1'- fable. His nal appeal was that his. ghearers might not regard the ques- ftion from the standpoint of the in-E iterests of the Presbyterian Church; ibuf in the light of how it would af-E feet the advancement of the Kingdom golf God in Canada. ' i ` Moved b_v Rev. W.` J. Wathsecbnded by 1 I Rev; Geo, A. Brown.. I I "l`I;...A 1.. _.1 _._ -1 AL, _._-_A_ _n ,I'_,,, ' jings and make things almost unbear- 1.4.1.` u:.. ::...;1 .._._.._u -_-__ LL_L `,- It was unanimously decided toholdig Ia field day on May 24, at the Tuxisi Boys Conclave held on March 9, in` {the S. S. room of St. Andrew s }Church. The meeting asked that the ?Boys Work Board appoint judges. H01` the sport events. At this junc-" iture, Clifford Guest `declared that he fdid not believe therewas a Boys jVVork Board. Rev. W. J. Wattle):- lplained that there would be a meet! ling`. of the Board shortly and he _ iwould problems the boys i` {before meeting. ' ` Queer State of Affairs . i Referring to the proposed bill, be; said: It is a queer state of affairs} when a_man can say `You can t be a Presbyterian. You can vote your self out of the Union but you cannot call yourself a Presbyterian or a. Methodist or a Congregationalisteany more. It surely is a qtrange thing in this free country if a man cannot `worship as he pleases. `Mr- 1ur..n:n:......-.'....:.: 1.- -__-_ -..' gorganized Classes to Have` 3 _ Leagues in , Both { 3 . . Sports. ' TUXIS LACROSSE} AND BALL mus `The Two Oveftures_ 5, CANADA, THURSDAY, MARCH 15, 1923. . It was decided `to hold the next `Conclave on Friday, May 11.. ' There were 50 present atrtlie meet- X jng, and following the business ses- sion refreshments were served. the matter as there had been no} gmeeting of the Boys Work Board,l `consequently the committee became bfficially extinct. '_ i --W.' A. Lowe Sbn hav a big {stock of mattresses and springs on! Efhand. Call and see them. - tfc On Friday night the-mercury took! an unexpected dip after the soft spell } and registered 4 below, Yesterday; the mercury registered down to 3 deg! grees and did not rise above 13 all day. Pretty chilly weather for the_ ,middle of March. ' j l The Paris of South ?America. Where Women Carry and Men call Lm a Ga_me._ Rev. L. McLean of Bradford fayor- I ed taking the vote immediately. What s to be gained by debate? he asked. Not a man here but has de- cided what he is going to do and there is no one here who can say. anything to change him. : Opposed to Methods - [ Rev. N. `H. McGillivray,-_speal<"ingl in support of the overture`, said he was not opposed to the Union butptol the methods being used to bring 'it' about. If thechurch would poll 51' per cent. in favor of Union, or 60 per cent. of the votes polled, he. would hold up both hands for it. So, far, less than two-fths of the mem-Q bership had been polled for Union.` He showed that on the second votel Union lost 2&1 votes of the rank and[ file, though ' had gained 821 more elders. The clergy represent less than `/2 of 1 per cent. of the church [ membership. All the clergy and all ` the General Assembly put together i make less than 1 -per cent. of the' membership of the church. The way members are elected to the Gen- . eral Assembly does not make thath body fairly' representative on theli Union auestion. For instance. from Barrie Presbytery this year ve out -of` the six are Anti-Union, while in Guelnh Presbytery all the delegates 1' are Unionists, This cannot be help- 1 ed, yet it is manifestly unfair that! ` a body so `constituted should takej. upon itself the settlement of thislz` vital question. I] /\ A... g`... Land of the Tango, the Warm-Lipped Senorita, and Buenos Aires-- The very latest Paramount Pictnre, which played the Hippodrome, Toronto, only a week ago. 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Church of which we are so proud will con- tinue toemake its contribution to the !\ . 1 an. - SEE WILLIAM D1-: MlLLE S 9NE9N,!3AN10F}F CANADA - -..-v-- nanunnull C_?o'1kstown Branch Barrie 3;:-anch and Safety Deposit.Boies Thornton Branch - - - fs EXTRA MUSIC No. 11 | 16 mass Your success depends not xsoemuch on how much you earn as on what you do with your money. Keep track of your expenditures. Re- solve that a year from ndw you will have saved a. certain sum. With non-savers it becomes harder to save as` time goes on. Get the saving habit now. Matinee: 25c and 15c. Set a Goal (Continued from page one\ work for Godithan is done under present conditions. History showed that great churches had not proved the panacea for all ills. Mr. Farley contended that the qualifications for admission to the ministry in the pro- posed church were not sufficient.` He was opposed to admitting any man into the church whose views were not fundamentally sound on the great beliefs of this church. . \ Q Qa/'uInounlQic*l11Iv "Doubl your Savings; I! CAN be Done."V - A. Leslie, Manager H. J. Thompson, Manager - T. McMillan, Manager LET PEOPLE Von: ' on CHURCH UNION CIRCULATION THIS WEEK