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house of commons affairs of canada in tha house of commons march 9th a long debate took placa on the presentation by mr- roebuck or a petition of members of the legislative council and members of the as asmbly in lower canada complaining of certain grievances of which wo have frequently alluded to- the petition was presented and read with the consent of sir robert peel mr roebuck then rose but the hon member addritcd the house in so low a tono of voice that only an occasional sentence here and there throughout his observation was audi ble he was understood to say that the petition which he had the hooor to present was from certain members of the legis lative council liuii house of assemhlv of lower canada and thtax it complained of grievance- this petition ffiw one uf try great importance and he would not conceal from ihe house or the government liie fact that unless some attention mre speedily paid to their call for redress these petitioner meant to adopt violent measures for obtaining justice ad wd a we could catch what fell horn the hon gentleman he pro ceeded toinsistrhat through the vhole of their proceedings ei ther as relating lo its own government or the questions at is ue between them and this country the people of canada clearly showed ihat hey were governed by a spirit truly eng lish itwasriot fair tntauot them with factious or republican views and to charge them with having ulterior objects be cause they sought to obtain a perfect control over their own funds this principle though it was for a long time combat- tad here and resisted by the governor there was at length ad mitted on all hands and such an admission having lieen made the principle having been established it was but fair as we understood the hon- gentleman that oo opposition should he given to the carrying of it into effect the liun gentleman complained that in a count y the principal part f whose popu lation consisted of roman catholics the population being 590000 and the members of the established church not more than 60000 he complained that under such circumstances the majority were not only taxed to support the church estab lishment of the minority but that alo catholic property such as the jesuits and others should be diverted from he original purposes for which it hod been intended the jesuits col lege bad been converted into a military barracks and its i id aod revenues appropriated to the support of the elahlihrd church hear hear hear in support of these facts he has prepared to produce th most satisfactory testimony it wis a part of the aystem which ai ned preserves a state church in contradiction to the opinion of the public hear hear that system which gave so much offence to the h cen ters of england and tn the catholics of i eland if in the lat ter of these two cncnlriesa perseverance in that system so of ten threatened rebellion what wn nor to be dreaded as ih result offmk perseverance in a moredismnt ulonv hear canada ww oof hfce ireland surrounded bj the eannd easiy compassed by a naval fbrc on itbtf contrary hn had beside her thitteen millions of enthusiastic republican h vtils to the epirit of church establishment nd rcadytospin and tramh uodsr foot any attempt which -nigh- be mad- to rrt up moll q priple and for hmlf sz ifgul say innrfanr atwmptof enforcing ac viciotttt modotor pcrisd in the mmwr hw eopio o canada get rid ofthe connechon the better the on gentleman tleu proceeded to sbovv ihe extent t whi li the unappropriatedland in canada might be made r aibme uir supporting the nedssstry tiemftfcl of the pmerrmiem nn i to- stmced the advantages which the united states derrirrri fnm such an amlie4ionc4 uhdilar fund why he should ivurfi tokoosr should qtwei bcjiciiied ihe right to avail hcroirif the same advantages lo 1778the right of canada to couiml and direct her own funds wae admitted and a promise held imt that tii reserved territorial and casual funds should boajso placed at their disposal the hoo gentleman then proceprf- sovio show tbo bickerings which bad been constantly kepi up between canada aod this country and the odiuoi in which tlic tocal tuthorhies there were helcf in consequence of the conti nued perseveraree in an effort to govern oiler a manner not in unison wkh the wishes of the people the hon gentleman coated a passage from one of burkus speech to show that not this or that theory uf government should bo acted upon hut marine best was that wilh which the people were bet satis fied- as regarded canada he would no mutter in whose hands the ravernmcnt of this cnuntiy was pitted whether in that of the eentlemsn on his or of tfio on iheoppofito side of the hbue uie time had now arrived when her affiiir should be taken into cooperation as if matters were allowed to pro ceed on ip ftinher it misjlit perhaps be too lato the hon and inarnod gentleman then proceeded to animadvert on the indecorous conduct of the governorgeneral in desrendine to a porsml quarrel nearly ucminatin in duel wiihlbeex-ai- loruey general the nt point to which he adverted uu fiod as regarded canada he would no matter in whose hands top envemment of this uountiy was placed whether in that of the gentleman on his or of tliobo oo the- opposite aide of the houae uio time had now arrived when her affairs should be taken into consideration as if matters were allowed to pro- cued on vtcp further it might perhaps be too late the hon and iiifird gentleman theb proceeded to animadvert on the indecorous conduct of the governorgeneral in descending to a oofrxil quarrel nearly terminatine in duel wilh thaxat tortiey general hienvxt point to which he adverted was the statement vhich had been made by way of compliant on the part of lord aylmer viz that at the lime when the cho lera was raging in tho olony he bud advanced 7000 out of his own private funds for the relief of the sufferers and vchirh the house of representatives had subsequently refused to ar- knowledge and repay now what was the precise state of the easel in the evidence of the aiddecampof his lordship it was distinctly stated by him that his lordship had advanced a tory small sum 600 or 700 for the relief of the sufferers from cholera but that whatever tha amount was he had been taderamfied for it by the housa of assembly tho hon and learned member then proceeded to comment upon the formn- tioti of ike canada land company which he declared to be an unfiurintorfcmnce with lands hclonging to the canadians only and with which neither the crown nor the parliament of this country bad a right to deal as he saw an hon memhei near him who had an interest in that company he would tell him that the canadians would not allow of yiy title which might bsj claimed under the society- the government of that coun try jiad endeavored to upset the ancient tenures of the colony t and by the unwise tnterfeience of parliament had caused much confusion and doubt to exist in the colony on the subject he next complaioad of tho unfair divuion of land whkh had been made would it bo believed that one person had claimed for himself aod his family of daughter no less than 24000 acres t a more unfair case never came before the parliament of thia csuntry than that which he had endeavored to unfold and he hoped thsy would approach its discussion in a spirit of concilia- lion and with becoming coolness and impatiality the petition having eeo brought up mr 8 rice rose to make sortie observations in explana tion of the subioet which ho said was one of great importance in itself and involving most important results both in u com mercial and general view to the nation iml her colonies- he concurred with the hon and learned gentleman that this ques tion should be met with calmness and impartiality and ho could not but regret that the hon gentleman himself had not followed tho doctrine he preached- was it to go forth that a member of the british paihament had declared that iftheseto- lonists did not get the redress they claimed if they did not get alt thsy asked they would be justified in revolting from their allegiance lo ihe crown 1 hear hear was it fair lo mako an appeal to the fears of tbo houae of commons when the hon and learaed member woll knew that if he appealed to their justice aod their sympathy he would not appeal in vain i har hoar hear he admitted wilh the hon member that there wete subjects of which the canadas had a riht to com plain but he denied that the hon gentleman had assigned them all to their right cause the committee which had liven appointed n 1828 had taken their complaints into considera tion and bad made various recommendations for their temedy ttisssrecommendstions had been greatly approved of and had beso eulogized by the canadians themselves who reportedly saested that those recommendations should be carried into cl he mr rice deeply regretted that they had notbeen put into fores for he believed that if they had the house would bever have heard anything more of these complaints no thing bad been done however up to the time that his nohlo friend lord ripon came into office tho hon and learned gsntfsmao bad unfairly accused kis lordship of having rwmd the disagreementa between the governorgeneral and th house of representatives the bon and learned gentleman had himself acquitted the noble lord of this charge when ho formed one of the committee of 1634 but now he came down with his own unreported copy of the evidence for the mere fmrpam of founding a chargsagaiost the government hear bsar1 on that committee were the names of mr roebuck mr g lowis mi goulburn mr denison mr loch lord bsndon lord howkk mr labouchere mr f baring sir h hardinpe mr h l bulwor sec during tho progress of thsj investigation before the committee there was only ono me in which there had been a division and yet nntwiihstond- mg thslonc nsftmmfrt and the expressed and implied accusa tion of tho hon member which tho house had just heard against the late colonial secretary and thu commites on that occasion hs mr rico and th hon member mr roebuck divided on flssssmaside cheers nay mors tho hon memhei was jj to awing up of thd report and tho objection whirh hs now took was an objection in a grant measure his own act hflir hoar mr roebuck said tbs genilsman had beter wait till the rsgularly oroducsd ho report but then he was not tbs person who added the passftg of his being the governor of the british american land com- laughter pany to which for certain reasons he wh opposed among mr rce did not know whether tho house would rerj i other things he had termed him a vile swindler a lriugh an explanation as a aatisfiictory one if the gentleman belong this did not excite in his face but rather gave rise to a feeling ed to the majority who drew up the report and whomncltmi- ofregtet and disgustthlt any person who had been selected to ed the addition of that passage and the amendment thensuly fin the speakers chair tn canada should dare so to speak of e n common fijirness he should be considered a paity to i public man of whom he knew nothing simply because hs was to froe himself from accusation after having taken such a eoyr and much o passing les ofa minister cheers the report of the committee declared that tli was evinced on the part of the colonial depoitmem the mot nnxinty to cam into effect the rttywrl ind rooinmiidah of the committee ofltftss fir tbn objuct of promhiim the ii rest of the colonics pending the investigation so far tn b disposition being evinced by the colonial office to impedn ilic inquiry or meriu objects there was on the mntmry hut n single latter public or private whic could elucidate the real havinirs of the case that was not lai i before the cominiticn there was nothing left undone by tlm xweriiment every fact great and mall within the powct rfllta colonial i p ment to submit wn itluniftd to the oniiniilee cheer afitilio could thuhoit esnileman wilh any show of derm dj or jitsti i maintain his ac usaiiont flcwr henr bui this was not all the rcpoit agreed to hv tlitf iititm v adopted not on the examination of ihe iiiicms of he cjo nial office but of the evidence on the other idf i cheers it was agreed to on the showing of the complairuig parties he mr rice was most soxhios thai eve y cor- sion should bo made in canada hf sfw soffj ihnl coi- sions were so ion w ithlield and would have n hftatinn in saying that concessions were madf too hut foi ihc trijuiliiy comfort aod peace of the colony iio fettthatifhf uccedtd in sdjqsting tlie affairs of anaib thnt e would nnr qcbived a reat triumph hfl wad aftxiuus cif that goo boct ko was charzed with hiving profiled to send a dor pah h and ha ving uiihlivhl it whth- it trahsmb vorahle views of government would hn trqinllised 2nd dmtlbrli d thr whoe rnltmifi the fact wm that hr had jf partd u despatch in whirh tlu frituil and liiorl tfuwv aj m government were fully nxpresed it wa ti ho ent on ihe monday and two hours hunre the suliogofthe packet it hjh fimnd that the government itvlf bad injeii dipatbed llfar and laughter he then ttt aightil rihtlosend l lord ay liner and say that a the sovernnint wsts clmud it vabaibi las siiccemirshimld nettle tho canadian ditllrvtices it would te rasy far him mr ric to say thut he inlondej lo do so aod so but he would not defend himself in tha wny hear the hon gentleman might say that he went out of office without doing any thing it miht be said he entered into office in june and what was heduin till november t governor ofa company lo which he was opposed hear hear in conclusion the hon gentleman eotrcatcd the house lo look to tho question brought under their notice dispassion ately and fairly and abovo all not to allow the continued tue of an inflatnatoiy language nid abusive epithets his conviction being that n final adjustment of the question could never take place until both sides were prepared to enter upon it with calmness and discretion hear sir r peel i bu to assure the hon member who has just concluded as well as the house at large that u is because i wish to act upon the advice he has now given me and that it is because i desire to view tho subject dispassionately anl d vested of tha difficulties in which it is sought to im merge it i rise for tho purpose ol deprecating the continuance of a dis- cuinn which in my humble opinion is neither likely to con duce to the amicable settlement of the unfortunatn difficulties thai prevail between tho canadian colonies and the british go vernment or to place ihe question in a point of view which will make it more intelligihl or less intricate to those lo whom fs several bearings are loss known i do hope sir that this it- will not be continued but should it meet the wish of th house that it should not here stop i do trust it will be continued without any further reference to mr papinttau or hi actions to the canadian oarty as opposed to th english narry or in short without reference to any of those exciting and nnincidental topics with which ii has pleased the hon and oi by mipjifc earned member for bath to charge his speech i am how- vr inclined to hope that the eouiss which hi majestys go- v nment have resolved upon pursuing in referrnce to the sub- jw and which i am now about to announce will bo deemed a conclusive reason why the advice of the hon member for worcester should be generally followed and why this discus sion should at all events for the present be brought to an end before however i proceed to state the intentions of govern rneut i musi be allowed to say a few words in answei loan ohervarinn ofthe hor and learned member for bath re ferring to the mil delay which has taken place io the settle ment of the disputed matter the hon and learned member said he attributed it altogether to the frequent changes which had of late vears occurred in the office of secretary of state for his object was the colonial department and concluded by recommending lo icne6i the colonies coniempoianeouly with the meenne of ln a fixed office not determinate on the changes in the ad- thn asmbhes he did out wish the opinion of the bnuh ministration should be created for the management of colonial hcanada before the opening ofthe legts- affairs such a remedy i do not hesitate to say is one altoge- pable of adoption hear the executive for tho time being it is quite evident must as ahodv be answerable for the management ofthe highly important affiiirs coining un tuvorotuent to rea lative vmju the ho gentleman had asked about par- ther incapable of adopt ticulax iti- among the rest as to the judicial aniointrneots the appointment of judge gale was referred to his reply was this that as it appeared that judge gale had stf far identified himself with the proceedings in canada which ld to the com mittee of ib28 as he was so tar committed as a partisan bo could not though hs was recommended by thovernraeot confirm his appointment hear there was another case that if judge parr we understood he had bfn a judze of rlic aduiialty and chief justice ofthe kings bnch these wcietuo appointor i its that were incompatible in conse quence f certain accusations brought home ainst him hs s dismissed from hi situation as judije of he adirrahy w court and as he wa from iniscoiduct remtvei from on cf- ficc he mr rice did not think him fit to fill the other andle ftrrorilinjcly ordered his suspension hear hear- with ns pact to the admiralty court he mr rice shoifd say thai lo thought the office of judge of the admiralty shou d be filled y englishmen rather lhan by frenchmen there was one pm of the petition to which the right boo gentlemas had not allu ded but to which bethought it necessary to idvett losj dalhouste look upon himself the respouribilitv tf disposing rf ihe unappropriated revenues after the bill of supplies had pn scd the house of assembly tho emergency was certairih great and in the conduct he mr rico pursued ic acted on tlu advice of his colleagues two years salary ras due to thi public officers there was distress urgent end enormous io meet the exigency money was raised by the canadian ic- gislalure and he mr rice in tbo full confidence that a hi i providing for the necessities o the case and curingamph cord was der the jurisdiction of the colonial department now how could lhat responsibility be attached to them if they were to have at tho head of that department an officer entirely indepen dent of their control and totally irresponsible to ihem for any au which he mhrhtdirect in die management of those affairs hear hear uch an arrangement could not bo satisfactory to any of the panics concerned in colonial matters and great as might he iho inconvenience attendant upon freqprnt chan ges in the office of colonial secretarv i am prepared ro main tain that the remedy proposed would be far from an improve ment i think lean however satisfy the hon member hat at all events ihe recent change in tho administration has not prejudiced the consideration of the present question ond that itshallnoldoso lam ready on the part of my noble friend the secretary of state for the colonies tc give the hon mem- eer every pledge ho may deeirc hear hear on the ap pointment of lord aberdeen ho found this canadian question in precisely the same condition it was ica by the committee which sat in 1830 the right hon gentleman opposite has stated that when removed from office he was on the eveofpro- posing to his colleagues in office cerfiin principles on which a settlement ofthe question should be sought i believe that to hove been the caso hut as the right hon gentlemen has sla ted of those preambles no recordwas left hy him at the colo nial office for mv part and i am suro i may sy ihe same on the part of my ivoble friend i much wish that such a re p necessities or me case ana cunn amps cord was in our possession because j nddilon o rh on jmtls lor tho exigency would havo boon passed rf novernbot portunily it would have given us of imifyju our rwttott tor uv h ubl ssv1 bupplaed fiom slie firnds of ihi cnuii- tho opinions of the itight hon ionlhnmo it coohl oot hot tr fimbmwmm 1w materially have assisted l in the usk wo hw to perlurm- had griovanccs to comnlain of but then they sluuld not hi urged in tho languacool viluporation of reproof or of menace as the hon member for taunton he wneever the steady ad vocate of cunadio inirou hut then bov nvr faulty j ndufcrwiao meiiatte would tqorh on ilpvc gislatute and he mr rico in tbo full confidents that a gjjj hear hear hear the right hon gentlemans motive for taking with him nil the documents he had prepared on ihe sub ject no one can question it was that his successor in office ofmynoble frienj i muc providing for the necessities o the case and secunngami cordwasinoor possession because finds for the exigency would have been passed m novcmu p0ft ordered the money to be supplied from the funds of ihis ctufo lho r the corfadinns was urgent t hvllpjfllhsl h on aepartofmy ptoble friend i mocn w in addition unity it would have given us of teiifyins on the opinions ofthe right hon oonllcmao it coul hioudurtii uk that uch a re a to the up r respect for not but ncy try he admitted the case ofthe canadians was urgent tuy inmlly have assisic3 uin tliousk we have to perform had grievances to complain of but then they should noti hear hear hoar tho right hon gentlemans tnoiivo for urged in tie lauguajro of vituperation of reproof or of men taking with him all the documents he had prepared on the sub- as the hon member for tadntonl ho was ever the steady j no ono can qnesuon it was that his successor in office vocatef can4i i t i ihnn ho u ill i 1 i i i 1 1 hi i fa hir dun indiscrfetion menace or anyuiiog that wouioloucn on aisaiw gion but much as i am disposed to do credit to the proper tion cheers he mr rice assured the hon member fr b tphich characterized his conduct i cannot help repeat- roebuck that there was not a more zealous advocate of cafe- my reret that lord aberdeen should not hare had the be- dian interests than he was the canadas were valuable 0 ne fit of his opinions however notwiihstnnditig the recent themselves but ho considered them more valuable from gn c of government and notwithstanding alw the ardous- connection with england a connection that he should ever ft nerg 0 duties in which immediately on his appointment at bor to defend he was sensible of their importance aasjaj secretory for colonial affairs h finds hisnsolf isyolvad lam and of their importance us provinces of england tjyir happy lo say measures hara already been taken to insure a wrongs and grievances he would consider with a strong proft settlement of tho differences hear hear on our taking lection in their fsvor jtt he would be guided by the office we f that the question demanded instant consideration principle of justice and he should in alluding to them stu and we accordingly had itcammooieated to tho colonial author- ously refrain from the language as he thought every lft itits that wc were determioed at an early period to proceed to member should of opprobrium or nhnace hear fwg the settlement ofthe disputes with this view wo authorized hon member peroration reached us as indistinct sounds j lord aylmerto triform them that hir majesty hod determined lord stanley and several members rose at the same tijh tosfcnd out in canada a hupieeeatatiro toftlly unoonnected thero were loud cries for his lordship and after some mf ruption his lordship proceeded he scarcely felt it necessity lo trouble the house with any vindication of the polic of the colonial department ofthe state respecting the canadas after the explanation oftho right hon member his explanation was an ample vindication si attacks upon himself bethought he would better ouqu the dignity of the house and his honor if ho passed them wj out notice if indeed with contempt with respect to thechajg of his slighting the interests ofthe canadas he would iu- the charge with a positive detail of facts two gentlemen worn sent by the canadian house of assembly in order to with local politics altogether unembuod with local prvjodtci and completely n n mixed io canadian affairs who should ena bled on the spot to take a whole view ofthe subject and being in full possession ofthe opinions and iorentions of the for cambndpoji government hero upon the several matters in dispute might 1 prfl report upan the host and most satisftctory means fur bringing them to a final adjustment ifoar hear this is the course we propose to adopt hear we fell the greatest difficulty in bringing the matter lo a conclusion by written communica tions- there might be misunderstanding oo some points min- terpretation on others and the distance between the two points rendering the clearing of those misunderstandings and misrep- pose the real or supposed wrongs of their state they iqta roptijons a most tedious and difficult process we after ma patiently heard and the result of the investigation was i ml tare deliberation came to tho resolution that it would bo bet- and convincing impression that the grievances were not c tor to send out a person io full possession ofourvisws and in- established these gentlemen were examined on each of r tentsons in the several matters to bo abjudicated and enabled in ninetytwo charges or bills of accusation and yet singular to fintflr lflo full communication with the canadian authori- say they had established no one ground of justifiable mfflplaftt upon jj our 6oal intention is upon a report of the cheers on each count of the ninlytwo accusations rca gmt0 0 being made to us to remove what is justly lord stanley joined issne with the deputies and their defe obnoxious and in their place to propose those measures which dantshere and ho got from tho verdict of th committee a ff we to bo consistent with justice to tho parties concern- umphant acquittal the hon member lurnselfmigntknosll e tnd witli sound policy as regards tho general interests of tho this because it appeared on the foce of his despatches wltfeh country cheers j under these circumstaoces i think tho were laid before the committee and which were consequent housa will feel that i take the mot prudent course in declining ly in hu own possession ho would only further say fat hirthei in the subject at present and i atthesame time whatever his success might have been while in office it m hope they will asgroe with me in tho opinion that the course obtained altogether in confidence of his anxiously toilowiu most likely to bring about an nmisabje mittlcment of the di- up the course ofpolicy recommended by his predixessur ip jj f that which biimajestys government have adopted fico hear the steps he did tako he took with ithftcoan fhcar we do not mean to disregard tho petitions of the renccof his predecessor and in consequence or tho opmin canadian population hut we mean to appeal to their sense of expressed by him previous to his accession they tid rcavnn and justice and we firmly believe that our appwil will proved successful to that predecessor was due the praiee prove successful we will give their claims every just const to pttitin the house uf commcns ihey j intemperate advocate than the honoisble hear hearl mr robinson misted that when the canadian popiifo lion aain desired would select a les membor fir bath a more unfair distorted or intemperate oddress than that ofthe hon member had never he bolioted been uttered within the walls of parliament hear hoar hear in one respect alone the honorable memher was a fit representative of the canadian parliament he fully represent ed it intemperance hear heai nnda laush ho far ids part despaired seeing tho question brought to any thing like a satisfactory issuo after nch an inhibition as the hous had time night witnessed the hon memheiv speech was a most un fair a most unparlutncnlary unc it was an appeal to passions and foar of the houa intcjid of blthvlr reaiou aj juilgmeut the prent wan notlhc firt imjj0 tho h i memher had recommended the canadian people to appeal u arms in a wild aud visiooary pamphlet he had before inthd them to tho use offorce cries of no no mr roebuck rosot order the word hi used e it is belter to trvovery thin hcloro an appeil nrms mr robinson asked if that was nol ricominndina an appeal to arm1 a laugh from mr ilnuie tho htai member fir middlesex laughed hut ho was noi much uffti sed at thnt as it ww well known he and the hon member f bath tatartaiod similar opinion vti i mhjcf t war he j the hon- mcuiikm a baneful itoailnatiflo ltti was but too wellkoown har hear in hi mi kobi05ons ftpj nhii nothing rimrousodod to f ndorier tho peace ot tho cana dian colonioi thun tho course pilfmqnl liy the hon member middlesex nod siith as fur the hon mernher rif harh was ntthiiir mors lhan iho repreninlitivo of mr- pipimaug foction in canada and a moro intemperate cnniituocy ho could not vell hav hear and a lii thi uidiviih in nn address to tho montival pvopltf haj htapid upon mr deration but ai tlie same time i am bound distinctly to atate wo do not moan to declare any now principle of government in the colonics hear hear our object is to see of what it is tho canadian people complain and tnon to see lo what extent those complaints are founded in justice if wo find they are not founded in justice our aim snail be to prevent their con tinued and useless agitation but if on the contrary wo find thsy are founded on justice wo shall apply ourselves tn aspirit to too cpil of cone illation t and without regard thets of contume ly and insult previously heaped upon us to their permanent and satisfactory removal loud cheers having staled thus clearly what is the course we have resolved upon pursu ing in reference to this question i shall not ocupy their atten tion by any comment upon tho numerous and unincidental topics introduced by the hon member for bath into his speech one word however a sense of justice compote me tossy in defence of the noble lord the member for north lancashire whoso conduct has been so unjustifiably attacked by the hon member who originated this discussion sir i do not believe that tho conduct of any minister of this countrv or any public man minister or nthcrwise was aver exposed to so severe an ordeal as that of th noblo lord to whom i allude andlmay further say i doubt any man could go through such an ordeal with more honour or credit to his character than did tho noble lord chirrs whilea minister of tho crown that nobis lord wont before a committee of the hnuae of commonsa committee indiscriminate y chosen having on its list many members adverse to the policy ofthe government with whicn ho was connocted a committee as fair a representative ofthe average opinions of that houso as could possibly be selected a commitieo as fully tho representative ofthe interests of tho canadian body as ofthe british party is canada before such a committee the nobis lord wool and after producing to thsm every document public or private his officsoootainsd left it to them to judge whether the complaints brought against him ezzlws p mrlubii were founded in justicoorotherwi cheonl bvlrspaat spradro ffwaslroahahslpedtodrawnpths that ed hi strung teftte and imply tomasiurcumlefe ikwwofwwsmplarfm o hoojbf o ijasgusa 8s3 loud cheers as far therefore as ihe accusation of the hon member for bath is concerned i think the noble udwl best consult his own dignity by treating it wilh indicant or rather contemptuous silence hear hear i would here sir cease to occupy tho attention of h house were it iotthai there occurs lo me one other point in the hon member f baths speech which i do not think i ought to pass over with out not it the hon member has been pleased to threaten us that unless every thing tho canadiaas ask for is granted them ihey have determined upon rdcllion those i think wr the expressions of thi hon and learned member a laueh he also undertook to assure us that thirteen million inhabitants ofthe united states of america a country with which great britain at this moment envoys the prof undet amity a country with which great britain is almost daily interchanging expres sions of most friendly feelina country with which great briuia has scarcely a subject of difference their old jealousies being now removed and each conscious that the prosperity of the other must influence its own prosperity reciprocally desiring that peace tranquillity and good order might flourish in the oiheisuch sir i savjieing the state ofthe countries ihe hon gen toman thinks it fit to declare that if a rebellion should break out tn canada the whole of the united states are pre- pared to interfere in ou domestic quarrjb and join these rebellious canadians now sir i will not do ihe united states tho injustice to believe even for a moment that ther or any one on their benalfcould have authorised ibe hon- and learned member to make such a declaration within the walls oflhe british house of commons loudchecrsand laughter i have loo high an opinion of thtir justice and integrity but even if that opinion were wanting i aitertaiu such a sense of their shrewdness commonsense and discretion that i can- not believe they would select as thftir organ iu this house tho hon memher who has thought proper to represent himself in that capacity cheers and great laughter with respect to his declaration ofthe intention ol ihs canadians i have ako a wordtoxay i think sir it is far better for me instead of facing exasperated by the language tho hon and learned mem ber has been pleased to put as it were into tho mouths ofthe canadian parly of whom he says he is tfie reprenurie and lostead of demeaning himself hy retorting equally hard words and unworthy expressions tiinply and in the plainestlanguage instate that both hope and trust the hon gentleman has had no authority from that party to tell tlie briush house of com mons that unless all their demands ore acceded to they will havarcraurse to rebellion loud cheers indeed sir pain ful as the alternative would bei would be rather inclinod to be hove that for the moment i say sir only for tho moment the wisdom and discretion for which the hon and learned gen tlemao is so remarkable forsook him than to suppose that hs gave us n correct report oflhe intentions ofhis as he has ben pleased to term them constituents laughter but oo the other hand if it should turn out that his information is correct if it bo true that the canadian people or any part of have in slrutrted the hon member lo act in the capacity oftheir minis terof war an to declare to ihe british parliamsnt that tboy arc prepared to rebel if nil uiair demands are not acceded to 1 as minister ofthe british government will meet them not with any counterdeclaration of hostility but with the hand ofpeaco and friendship grasping theirs i will say to them i we intend to do you justicestill notwithstanding wo derive from your menaces a freh source of strength although by your unfounded accusation accusatiuns which in the end will recoil on yourselves aod give us tho strength to disregard your vauntin you induce a free conviction of your injustice and intemperance wc are determined to go on unflinchingly iu the course we have set out on and by removing all fair ground fur complaint rake from you ever the preteuce for as serting that his majestys colonial subjects do not meet froia llis british government thnt consider lion and attention to which they are entitled tho right hon baronet raumtd his seat amid loud cheers mr hume said flint the hon memher for worcester had treated the subjvctniw before the house with his uual disre gard fur fa ts- oh oh- probably the bottftf and ihe liun gentleman were not aware that ihe parly lead by pftpineaitj and which had been dtsiguated a cictioo cdhlsttd ofjimllfti of lb- loit iiiwts of lower cjuadi was ihe itfut genlcnun avare tlnilout ofoiirhiyeirhl members of t at parhntnt twmyovti4i member only w of the tuiy party un wlfto jlo iu cuiajd haiiilivmi similar loone that had lately lakeu placo in una country and that fittf slid only trur rrnied l sign tho petition rcleried to though twelve were frvierutd from so doing so io coosequencc uf th statu rf ifao roads om uii orfders ttf ffnidtly ncipamrtsl vsft which had been rieaiguaied a uciumi 6onhibted of 10lishs of the inhabitants of lower canada was the firm renilcmw awars that out ofeiiihtyeight dkiuntrs of tto lat pftrliafstfit twoniy seven mcinbtrsuiily v oflhe tory party uieitrjg- glo in canada having been similar to one that had lafely telreo puceio thiscountr and that four aud only ibur rcfiued u sign the potiiion rotsrred jo though twelve were prevented from so doing so id cooaquence of he state of rho roads ainuilinjjycquaauted with the um ofpopotauoitfiioiitparties aere and fie ivouu b uj at- themthattha supporters offis petition were 373000 and iha opposors only 3000 bift the real question beloro the bousa ho considered to bo were hc people of canada satished i hat they good government or nftl tuey asked in 1831 frr a con stitution and a charter of thr rights intend of this ihe wer still misruled still badly governed end the pensioners of tho govomment wero chosen lor theadmlnistration of ths office of judge he would ask tho iouse what they would think if out offour bills sent up to the house of lnnis ihrt wots ova the averago refused and thes4 bills relating to finance and other matters of equal importance what they uould think of rtt tot ibis was tho case as regarded canada he spoko from no uncertaia mfbrmatrob but from the documents that had ten laid before the bouse the cttiequeoce was instead ofbax- fiwmy birwmotiwcoiooists and ifao government thero was discord improvement was rolused th t placemen might fat ten on the spoils of ihe coaittry oviol 1c0 bills scot vp to the coaotu byiheicalslaiive aseeuihly in ihe rpace often yenns osmejy from if to lit no ws than vjfl were rtjccicd these bkl were for cj icodkig nlucatioo fcr prcvcuiing penamrra sining io the assembly a hi thia coo o try aod br vaiseosoihcrocpsea or improverocc toey were told lhrnihc people of caoada cstild not role uieatoclvcn hot ibaa they must be governed by a pciiy lactjto called uccooaeil wboweirto beaopporicd by tle cokiniulilmcc atlioree they were placed in the bsm situation as the people ofeoglond bclbre the reform bill tbcy hadeome here ol i antl they again peuuobcd this hooe lai fear in iha ann iimtance mr- hoskisaon had rccooimciled omt a cooomittce houustt andujeydu btilnetuier the recomfucwlsuoosof ihvi nor of obequeoi commtnee had me wilh aoy attention the hon member jbrtbciownofcurobridfe and hue decretory of toe ci4ooiea mi said that he extremely rcgretied thai me gvievwka under which ihe caae jiaoa taboo red were mattered and lhal ihe same lmsm syetem sc s- veraoieot was maidtolned he occd not iaslt men upoa tbe aikcmoa afuwir devaiices being well jonmed fy thclole derretry bad admit ed them to be so bot had at the bameriime declared tltai he hl not time io red refls them the rands arising from 370000 cuiholic inhabitadl of canada lor chepurpoaes ofeducauoawercduttributcdamoiiga try ibvr cook it be expccied that the people of canada anymore unto ihe peo- s0 of 1 rcland coo w uuncly submit to ce ibose ainds approprialed wiib- rt having a voice in uieir disposal 1 the hon gentleman theo almcd io ihe flinda orisiog from land placed ot the disposal of ihe cnoacu borag apptcd or die porposea yihe duitc exclusive of uie inierest of ibe peo- fc and that tboee fuods were neitlhrr fuhicci io iho oauol of uie aaov axliamedt nor waathe aubjeet eogniublc by cmvro toe boo scnuemaa then proceeded io uie subject oi uie bill for iucorporsaag a ompany rr hr aaie of canadian l i i j whicii mr 1 ptneia had aacrt- cdiohuve been smuggled through the houe lie wr hoote did oat doubt mat the compoiy had doue and would do great good by uc lutnv juction of capital which would briu us accompoiiytog iilprovrmcttis- fiut wifii becouipminedofwasibut uicundapniiicedby uie rva rujil were neiuier under toe cootrol oi ujc govcramtnt lurc or w people there but were employed tobritrt uieiuembcraoflhe leulaturc lostcad 4fbeiog appropriated io the ajlcvaauoa oftb- bnnfrens oi ta people- in datuoa lo u4m itw bboco ofjutlce wus oot pure the hon- member for ihe town ofcambrldgd tn adnmiicd tboi the appoiatmeaiormr gaje was a most improper legal appuintineiil yet thai hoogcnucmao had beeomrco months lo offico but had not cancelled it he acknowledged it to be itowor- thy ajidaidhebudnoiaoneiionibuiwhvdidbcnothrlvehjmofft tho tvoo meiober iicn read a rcaotuiioo oflhe house or assembly in caaado dated april is 1634 exprcaivcofhopcauiey entertaloedofimidedialcro- ilreastrooj his majeiys uovemmet more especially alter uie reiirc mciu from office of mr stanley and the appotnuiiedlof mr spring hie he then proceeded tosay lhal he hailed wiui pleasure the declaration ofthe right hon baronet oppoaitc of hut intention to rcdreav ail grievance bat f egreucd ihat he should be averac to uurmjhmg any new pnnciple as ho mr- hamo firlt ailly convinced that unleaa aoioe ocw principle was ao- jinowtedgedu would be lutaomfhs to maintain peace io thecotooy uo recollecled that an hoa gentleman oppoiic had aa4d oo a previous occa sion that canada had in ita vicinity ibe united slates and thai aa ideal line only eeparnled tho two countries aod that ii could not be expected that the canadian ssausg the advantage their neigbbors derived oom a difltrcctcoftslliouon would long tolerate their own impcrct smawk fior eyatcm the macaber br worcester mr robmaon had iu hi rpeeeti mixed the aubjtxi ofthe attaira ofuppcr and lower canada ai plough ute former had aouung to dowiih tltc rceenidukuoiod v e on- deratoodp howevcr ihstpenuoos from upper canada were oo their way to ihio country and he aiwald then when the aobject mm brought regu larly bejbre uie house bo able to show uuu the same system prevailed to uotii place mr laboucherf hoped that it would not go ibrth io the colooist mot ibe sovermneni did not inuod the ioiroducuou of any new principle a such an lotenilon could only have uie eflert of perpejoaung the preeent auimoaiiy probably u wis not to be uudcatood however thai when a flqwprtnciple was objected to that there waato be oo aiie ration vvhea mr piu ibriy years ago gave a eonatluinon to ihe caaadaa it was only ooaed opon sa aneiperimedt u wucceaaof which was to be watched by legblstureorihiacooruy the pctitioaoow before the boos jbrlpe alierauonoflbatconauiulion wa signed by the ojcatomjotlty sflmav b i of lower canada- tho hon meiuber cooduded by eiareaslng a ah to be aatlslied opoo two points but ho spoke fa such a low too of voce that we could catch only glinrpne ofhi meaning they were to the rucci a nearly as we coukl gooaa nrat wf icther ibe complainta of the people of uie cunaila would be referred to the i ltiature or the ou- verdor and aecondly whether the pcraon who waa to be defused c una country waa to bo created covernor of iho cotoay he addressed hlmacir to ihe right boo secretary for the homo department la iso so sence of iho right hen the chancelior ofthe exchequer mr seercury goulbuitn replied thai tbo ludlvtduai tob from the governromt of oils country was to be only a commleajooea heeaiduaiaoihaviog been in ibe houae wbeo the right hon chancellor of iho exchequer oiptained his mutqyjoo h could act i the hon oaaaber on us other ooiai