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British Whig (Kingston, ON1834), April 16, 1835, p. 2

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european intblugbnce from lb nw york crnnmerciil advsrtiscr great britain the new parliament was opened on thursday the 19ih of february great crowd of people thronged the entrances both of the house of peers and the house of commons strong bodies ol the police were in attendance to preserve the pence and the mob amuied themselves by cheering the popu lar members of both houses hissing and hooting the friendeof ministers the lory lord and bishops were received vflth tremendous yell i he hberul peers were loudly huzzaed the hostility to the duke of cumberland was manifested in a manner so unequivocal as to require the most active exer tions of the police to prevent actunl outrage the lord chancellor entered the house exactly it two oclock- the lords commissioners the lord chancellor earl rossyln the archbishop of canterbury earl jersey and loid haruchlle in their state robe took their seals on a form placed between the throne and the woolsack i he lord chancellor directed sir augustus clifford the ush er of the black bod 10 require the attendance of the commons to hear the royal commission for opening parliament read- shortly afterwards mr ley chief clerk of the commons appeared at the head of about one hundred menbers when the com mission was read by the lord chancellor the lord chancellor then announced thatassoou 33 ihe mem bers were sworn his majesty would declare the causes of calling the parliament directing the commons in the mean time to repair to their usual place of sitting and ihere make choice of a speak er the commons thereupon withdrew prayers were rend by the bishop of hereford and the oaths of office were administered to the lord chancellor and the lord there was a great rush of members on opening the doors of the common at 12 oclock the irish members mustered in great force at one o clock four hundred members were present- at two oclock sir robert peel and about one hundred members proceeded to the house of lord as al ready atated and having heard the royal commis sion read returned in about ten minutes klectron or a speaker after a lapse of about two minutes profound si lence prevailing throughout the house whicllwas crowded on the opposite side to excess both wi the body of the hoiim and the gallery on that aide lord francis egerton rose upon the kingscom- livered said that he rose to propose lo that house an individual to fill its chair to whom he anticipated there could be no objection and whose election must necessarily have a majority in that house it would not be denied thai the present circumstances of the country required a penon to preside ill milium the house and the country had confidence hear at no period of this countrys history did he con ceive it to be more necessary for the house to pro ceed to the election of a speaker whose candor dis cretion and knowledge of the usages of the house would ensure it confidence he trusted that to the discussion of this question of such vital interest to the state the house would come with calmness and good temper it was not too much to say that the remuneration received by the speaker for the ardu ous duties he had to perform was but little propor tioned to the anxiety which lie fulfilment 010 res ponsible a situation must give him and for ih many great sacrifices lie who duly fills it must necessarily make hear he could not hm remind ihc house of that great public calamity which lately fell upoi the nation in the loss of those valuable records which were recently destroyed he could scarcely ceive a more legitimate subject of regret than this unless indeed the loss to this house of 1i1 eminent services of the individual whomhr now should have the honor of proposing to fntlmum to ill itsrlmir hear hear thar individual tw sir churle manners sutton- loud cheers from the trensarv benches sir charles for n period of eighteen years filled that responsible situation and the con stant approbation of the house was tin- slliwit test ol his great merits and of the high opinion the housp entertained of the competent discharge of his dutie hear hear those dutiea sir charles would con tinue to perform if again chosen although he lord f egerton as the friend of str charles could scarcely wish hint a duty so arduous and fatiguing ths noble lord then observed upon the opinions that had been expressed upon the conduct and charactei of the iaie speaker when he was last proposed to the house which included not only the favorable testimony of his friends but of those who hd oppo sed his election he would for the purpose of shutt ing this call the attention of the house to extract from the debate to which he alluded and he trusted he would be acquitted of the intention to make any invidious allusion to the sentiments expressed b honble gentlemen regarding the candidate he was about to propose the first testimony to which he would allude was that of the node lord the member for the west hi ding of yorkshire who in 1833 said that ihere could be but on opinion of the indefatigable attention to business and uniform courtesy which distinguished the hoe tenor of the conduct of the late speaker tie was followed by the hon banner the member for westminister we did not at this period observe sir f burdctt in the house who had also burnt ample testimony to the manner in which die late speaker had performed the duties of his office the hoo and learned member for dublin in opposing on that occasion the motion for the reelection of riir charles maimers sutton had also concurred en- tt rely in the remarks of the previous speakers as tu his personal qualifications these were not private testimonies not the opinions of partial friend- they were those of honorable adversaries he re gretted that circumstances had occurred which led him to think that the motion he was ibout to make would not be received with the unanimity it deserved but he could not believe that the monstrously silt surd charges which had been made against sir c sutton within the last three mouths would actuate hon members to oppose his reelection or that he would be upbraided because of his having performed his duty as a privy councillor hear hear he trusted that the right boo isaionrt would not be compelled to meet indictment founded upon statements made to the mirror of fashion hut it bad been intimated also by a publication of the names and qualities of the opposition candidates that sir c sutton was to he opposed on a great public principle loud cues of hear and in the war cry tothia effect it had been promulgated thm this principle was to give condemnation without a tri al he then moved that sir charles manner sut ton should take the chair cheers from the trea sury benches the address of the noble lord occupied half an hour sir charles bnrrell from the opposition benches seconded the motion he was glad of the opportu nity of expressing his conviction of the superior fit ness of sir m sutton for the office for which he had been proposed which was known to every t 1- btr of that hflue hut he did not mean in lauding rhese qualifications to disparage tlemati who was to he opposed to trarv he had the highest rega that gentleman those ol rhe ceo him 01 the con- i ior tire bleiiia of he supported sr m suton from iicj could have induced hi and cheers he wai the persuasion of his fitness for the office no new man could be a proper judge of the rules uid order of the house and an old and tried one was prefera ble to any one new however talented he gave his cordial ftaseih to the motion cheers from the treasury benches mr ztentvcil rose amidst loud cheers he said that he could assure the house it was nth reluc- laucc he had intruded himself upon it on th present occasion nothing but a sense of duty aid the so licitation of ins friends by whom he wnssirrouuded m to come forward- hear 1 also impelled by hh sense of what was due to the excited state of minds not only of the people of enghild but of europe and the whole world hear hear the queston upon which they had to decide whs not one of personal character but of public principle and ike hoped the noble lord who had moved the reelectin of sir ink sutton woultl excuse him when he remarked that he had thrown a great deal of asperity into his observations he would not however folio his ex ample the hon gentlemen proceeded toay that in his opinion it was incumbent on the house that the gentleman who should be appointed to fill the high station of the speaker should be a gentleman hose principles were in accordance with the majo rity of that houe hear after referring to the various important discussions which were likely to lake place from the stormy aspect of the political atmosphere the hon gentleman said there was no doubt the house would have to legislate with that great grievance the sratc of the irish church hear there would also be discussions respect ing the motive which had led to the dismfcsal of the late ministers without a trial no doubt too there would he some inquiry into the conduct of hat indi vidual who for several weeks had in his own person filled various offices in all these cases it would be incumbent on them to have in their chair a gentle man who whs koown f 1 his impartiality who would act with dignity and courtesy but above all whose sentiments grcd with those of the majority of the house some difference of opinion might iuo arise with die other house for all those reasons it was most important that the chair should be filled by a man whose name was identified with the great cause of reform he therefore proposed his rfght hon tffindtlmininbtttfftndim were observed on this occasion and fro 11 the fa vorable state of the weather an immense multitude was collected in all the avenues through which the roval cavalcade passed there were as might have been expected strong manifestations of public feel ingsome persons hissing and groaning and others cheering some of the most active of the former were apprehended hv the police and conducted before the magistrates at ttucen square by whom they h were ield to bail hia majesty appeared to be 111 excellent health and inch spirits and while he bow ed to those who greeted him with expressions of loyalty and attachment he seemed unmoved by the more violent demonstrations of an opposite charac ter the discharge of artillery announced his mft jestys arrival attlie entrance to the i louse of peers which was crowded with ladies a full attendance o the diplomatic corps and a great number of peers in their robes ten judges were also present in their state costume as well as a strong muster ol bishops in their lawn sleeves shortly after two vclock his majesty took his seat on the throne ami the common were forthwith summoned to hi presence his majesty hen delivered the following speech in a firm tone of voice vmy lords and gentlemen i avail myself of ihr earliest opportunity of meeting you in parlhi- nfeiit after having recurred to the sense of my peo ple you will i am confident fully participate to the regret which i feel at the destruction by accidental fire of that part of the ancient palace of west minster which has long been appropriated to the use of both houses of parliament upon the occurrence of this calamity i gave immediate directions that the best provision of which the circumstances of the case would admit should be ibfide for your present meeting and it will he tny wish to adopt such plans for the permanent accomodation of the two houses of parliament shall be deemed on your joint consideration to a be in his mr denisons humble opinion there was no gentleman in that house better vjmh lifted to fill that high office not only was he eminent for his consistent support of liberal princijifoe but for hi legal knowledge long experience and habits of bu- me flattered himself that all i or who had the reform hit die last parli sines supported tue aeiorm 0111 m me last fariimem or who had advocated the principles f reform upon the hustings would do hn rhenomil of supporting the motion with which he should conduce the office of speaker was the highest station to which n commoner could aspire that assembly s the most important and influential assembly of freemen in the universe and it would therefore be idle to in sist that it ought to be filled by a man preeminent for his character and talent he should therefore sutton the ilight hon lames abercromby soud take the chair- much cheering mr ord seconded the motion te hon gentle man said he did so in many pspect with feelings of 1 he deepest regret he was at fill times reluc tant to address the house at all but here was now rhia uh jrc ur i was coni led by a sense of public duty to op77t gcm man whose zeal and indefatigable tanntim to k arduous duties he had long admired but these were time when private feeling must ive way to a sense of public duty this was such n occasion hear hear the choice of the speaker under present circumstances was looked firward to with the deepest anxiety not only by ihi country but abroad- it would be looked to as an indication of the opinion of the country upon the tile important events which hml led to the dimiulution the cir cumstances under which the late speaker was elect ed could afford no criterion by which to guide ihem in their present choice hear hear the itate of the case was totally and entirely different nor dil he think that the minister of the day acted in consistently in supporting the late speaker under the other circumstances the house was then anxious to avail itself of the assistance of his experience but now the choice was a test of the strength of the liberal party the country was looking with extreme anxkl to the result his majesty had been advised to ip- peal to the sense of the people upon ihc change which he bad thought fit to make and they were there to reply to that appeal hear hear in his opiuiooi if they placed the right hon baronet sr c sutton in the chair they would greatly die appoint thecountrv hear hear the hon gen tleman proceeded to say that he was not blindetl by laiiialiiy for his hon friend when he gave his opi nion ihnt he was eve rv way qualified to fill the office not only was he qualified by his habits of busijies and his acquaintance with parliamentary usage but he hud another great qualification he meant his known attachment to liberal principles in his mr ord opinion these were the piinciplcs entertain ed by the treat majority of the house and the prin ciples of the speaker ought to be in accordance with then another reason which induced him to sup port that right hon gentleman was that he was the representative of one of the most intelligent and im portant constituencies the hon inem in con dition urged the house to support the motion con- it its character was in a jrreat measure n ceiling tl voked in the decision sir charles manners sutton then rose to address the house he was confident hon members would torsive hiin if he trespassed some time on their at tention as he felt the necessity of vindicating his own honor and the honor of the house against the imputation whiet had been cast upon hit qualifica tions to fill the chair hear he wished to er himself right with the bouse and the public as to the manner in which he had discharged i duty he would not my one word in disparagement of the right hon gentleman who bed been proposed the right hon gentleman then proceeded to explain and vindicate the part he had taken on the dismissal ol the late ministry and was left addressing the imuse the itourt having proceeded to the election the opposition carried their candidate mr ahcrcrombv by a majority often votes lhas for mr abercromby 3g for sir 0- m sutton j06 10 he cheers deafening majority fur mr abercromhv on die announcement of the division both within and without the house were beyond description house of lordstucsday feb 2i this day hi majesty proceeded in elate to the houmofprwre to deliver hi promised speech to the lords and commons the usual ceremonies the most fitting and convenient i will give directions that there be laid before von the report made to mc by the privy council in reference to the origin of the fire ami the evidence upon which that report was founded the osurances which i receive from my allies and generally from all foreign princes and states of thetr earnest desire to cultivate the relations of amity and to maintain with me the most friendly understanding justify on my part the confident ex pectation sf the continuance of the blessings o f the single exception to the general tranquility nf europe is the civil contest which still prevails in some ofthenothern provinces ofspain 4 will give directions that there be laid before you article which i have concluded wiih myallie the king efthe french the queen r fgenl of spain and the tiueeii of portugal which are suplnncnra- tv tlie treaty of april 1831 and are intended to facilitate the complete attainment of the objects con templated by that treaty l have to repeat the expression of my regret that the relations between hollaudand belgium still remain unsettled gcftttcmn of the house of commons i have directed the estimates for the enduing year to be prepared and to belaid before you without deity they have been framed with the strictest atten tion to economy and i httvc the satisfaction of ac quainting you that the total amount of the demands for the public service will be lew ot tlte present than it has been on any fonncroccasion within our recent experience the satisfactory state of the trade and com inerre of the country and of the public revenue fully justifies the expectation that notwithstanding i jmwivho tmifrfwn which were made in the last session and which when they shall have taken full effect will tend to diminish the existing sttrplti of the public revenue there will remain i sufficient balance to meet the additional annual charge which will arise from providing the compensation granted by parliament on account of the abolition of slaver throughout the british dominion s ttwjiv lumiciu that hit dgrietmural interest continues it a state of great depression recommend to your consideration whether it may not be m your power after providing for the exigencies of the public service and consistently with the s ted fast maintenance of the public credit to devise a method for mitigating the pressure of these local charges which bear heavily on the owners and occupiers of land and for distributing the burden of them inure equally over other descriptions of pro perty u lords and gentlemen the information re ceived from the governors nf mv colooies together with the act passed in execution of the law lor the abolition ol slavery will b communicated to you t is with much satisfaction that i have observed the general concurrence of the colonial legislatures in giving effect to this important measure and not withstanding the difficulties with which the subject is nceasan attended i have seen no reason to abitte my earnest hopes of a favorable issue- under h circumstances you may be assured of myanxiou desire and unceasing etfortn fully to real foe the benevolent intentions of parliament there te many important subjects some of which have already undergone parrial discussion in parliament the adjustment of which at as early a period as i consistent with the mature considera tion of then would be of great advantage to the public inteierte among tlte first in point of urgency is the state of the tithe question in ireland and the means of effecting an equitable and final adjustment of it measures will be proposed for your considera tion which wiwhave for their respective objects to promote thl commutation of tithe in england and wales to improve our civil jurisprudence and the administration of jusiice id ecclesiastical causes to make provision for the more effectual maintenance of ceclesinshcal dicipline and to relieve those who dissent froth thedoctrines or discipline of the church from the necessity of celebrating the ceremony of marriage apcordingto its rite i have j yet received the report from the commissioners appointed to inquire into the state of municipal corporations but i have reason to hclievc thai t will be made and that i shall be ena bled to communicate it to you at an early pcnod i have mppoiuted a commission for considering the state ol the several dioceses in england and wales wifh reference to the amount of their reve nues and l the more equal distribution of episco pal duties the slate of the several cathedrals and collegiate miurchee with a view to the suggestion ofvuchincsircs as may render them mosf condu- siveto the iciency of the established church ami for devising the best method of providing for the cure pf sou lis with reference to the residence of the clergy on rficir respective benefices the especial object which i have in iew in the appointment i of this commission is to extend more widely the itiiefia of religious worship according to the doctrine of the established church and tocon- tirm its hohd upon the veneration and affections of mv people 4i ieel it also incumbent upon me to call your earnest attention to the condition of the church of scotland and to the means by which it may be ena bled to increase the opportunities of religion wor ship for the poorer classes of society in that part or the united kingdom it has been my duty on this occasion to direct your consideration to various important matters con nected with our domestic policy i rely with entire confidence on your willing co operation in perfecting all such measures as may be calculated to remove just causes of complaint and to promote the concordj and happiness of tny subjects i rely also with equal confidence on the caution and circumspection with which you will apply your selves to the alteration of laws which affect very ex tensive and complicated interests and are interwo- ten with ancient usages to which the habits and feel ings of my people have conformed i feel assured that it will be our common object in supplying that which may be defective or in re novating that which may be impaired to strengthen the foundations of thom institutions in church and state which are the inheritance and birthright of my people and which amidst all the vicissitudes of public affuirn have proved under the blessing of almighty god the truest guarantee of their liberties their rights and their religion his majesty then retired a loyal salute wai fired end on liis return to the palace the same mix ed demonstrations of popuhlr sentiment were obser vable- house of commons teh 24th lord sand on rose tomovethecustomary addres after some prclimtmirv remarks on his own attach ment to the principles of reform he admitted he had no confidence in lord melbourne administra tion and therefore he made no inquiry about the manner in which it had been dismissed the prin ciple of lord greyv government was to be conti- rned by the present minister he believed they were likely and did possess the confidence of the powerful states of europe with respect to eceno- mv it was evident from the kings speech that this principle offiail greys government waa to he acted upon hearjl and as to reform it vm quite dear that the present government would act upon the same principle in reference to it as lord greya government for that government would grant no larger concessions and this would lake awsy 1010 that had been granft4 the nowe loft having adverted to the doctrine of only the introducers of the reform bill being con tinued in the government of thecountry contended that his majestys present government were deter mined to go as fir as any other government ought o goto improve the institutions of the country hear hear having then referred to the branches of itefocm alluded ro in the speech he concluded by movjngan address which as usunl wasa mere te- capitulation ofthe speech itself with an expression of thank to bin mjety for his most gracious const- delation ofthe topic it embraced lord morpeth after a speech of considerable length moved the following amendment that after the words to promote the concord and happiness of my stihj ctv in the last paragraph butiwu these words be inserted to aaeute hit majesty ihat his majestys faithful commons 10 knowledge with grateful recollection that the act fur amending the representation of the people were submitted to parliament wiih iris majestys sanction and carried into u law by his majestys assent that confidently expecting to derive further advantage front those wise nercssnry measures we trust that his majestys councils will be directed in a spirit of well considered and effective reform and that the liherril and comprehensive policy which restored fo the people thd right nf choosing their representa tives and hicii provided fir the emancipation of all persons held in slnvery in his majestys colonic ami possesions abroad will with the same enlar ged view plttce without delay our municipal corporations under viplaut popular comroul re move all those uitfbnniled crieviuce of protestant lhtfftrinety and eoriect iboae abuse in the church which impair its efficiency in england disturb the peace of eociety in ireland and lower the character of the establishment in both couurries 10 repre sent to his iwajesty that hi majestys faithful com mons beg leave submissively to add that they carr- uot but lament that the progress of these and other reforms has been interrupted and endangered by ihe unnecessary dissolution of a parliament earnest ly intent upon the vigorous prosecution of measure to which the wished ofthe people were mostanxioue- ly and justly directed the reading of this amend ment which had been frequently interrupted by the applause ofthe house was followed by loud and general cheering the debate was continued with great animation many members participated in it among whom was sir robert peel whose speech is said to hae sur passed any former eflbrtof his in parliament wm shall publish this speech and also some others as soon as possible sir robert having resumed his seat and the cheers having subsided lord john russell rose amid loud cries of adjourn i adjourn and said he wished to know from the right honora ble baronet sir robert peel whether it was the intention of his majestys government to iniroduio without delay the measure of tithe adjustment in ireland and that of tithe commutation in england as well as the measure for the relief of the dissen ters and also when the report ofthe church com mission in ireland would be laid upon the table of the house t sir robert peel in reply said that the bill for the relief of the dissenters would be brought in with as little delay as possible he might aav immediately cheers with reference to the irish tithe tfdjust- raeul measure he riiihild also say that it would be laid before the house with as little delay as possible 1 he measure w ith reference to education in ireland be would not pledge himself to bring forwird so soon but in a few weeks there could be no doubt of its introduction he furthor begged to assure the noble lord that there should be no delay in the in troduction of other measures of practical reform by his majestys ministers the debate was then adjourned on thursday the 25th the debate was resumed among the speeches in support ofthe address werrj lord stormont lord stanley mr goulburn iur baring ainonc those who spoke in favor ofthe amendment werejtfr ward captain berkeley dr lushington mr slid i and lord john russell the last was the chief and when he had concluded the debate wsagaii adjourned it was resumed again on the 26th and many mem beraofboth partiea participated at 10 minutes past one oclock in the morning the house proceeded to divide at two oclock the number wereannuunced as follows for the amendment 309 for ihe original address 302 majority for the amendment 7 after the majority bad returned to the house lord john russel rose amidst the loudest cheers which were continued for some minutes after itjmd

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