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fmovufcialtpaai-iambwt- the uufortunan idition of those emigrant from the mother who were formerly pensioners of the rntistl lift- nment and praving that his mijesiy would hv graciously pleased to restore to them their pension 1ku house of assembly trr8dafrb 91 1935- mr bovlton ro to move thf an address h pi tented to hii majesty representing con try vcrnmcnt and pray restore to them mei for it now appeared they hud been very much ms taken in their went wiih regard to ihs country they have some time ago commuted their prions for a certain sum of money and a grrut oi hnd here which they now find ul be unpro6tsme to them he- cause many of them being worn nit soldier who from having been long unaccustomed to any species ol labor are totally unfitted for cuuwelhw the new lands of canada they cannot obtain a livelihood and are actually a burihen upon the neighborly d where they reside he mr boutton thought the iht case of these people one of peculiar imdship and ther most certainly deserved that their pensions riiouid be continued to them he thought at all events it was a subject worthy the consideration ol the house and he doubted not if the hou concur- red in an address to his majesty on the subject and give a proper representation of their case that then former pensions would be restored to them mr perry regretted exceedingly that the hon and learned gentleman should represent any de cription of emigrants as a burihen upon themhmn as a parcel of pauper emigrants he mr was astonished he did not believe it h did noi believe that emigrant coming from the mother coun try who had been allowed to commute their pen sions and had obtained crams tfland hi the pro vince he did not believe that those people were a the hon and learned gentleman had publicly repre sented them a burthen upon the community ami how doe the lion gentleman propose that the money be paid ott of the casual and territorial revenue i suppose- he does not tell you what kind of sin ad dress he means lu bring forward he only moves thnt an address be drawn up to gtve these emigrant their petitions i cannot belirve the atitenii ill o- the hun and learned gentleman ihstl any thing oi this kind has occurred to any considerable extent i have not so poor an opinion of em grant ennnm from the mother country that they have already in come a burthen upon the country alter his majesty has provided for these men in a wy to make thru comfnriable and happy i do not hmk anv mi i address necessary or that anv pood can grow ou of it 8ol gcncraltht motion of my hoiu friend op posite is exceedingly creditable to him hoi members nugla 10 know what the irurh i with r- gard to those pensioner many years ago a con siderable number of poor soldiers who ere cmitler to pensions fur their services received in lieu ij those pension a sum of money and wen- sent to canada to cultivate the soil now every body knows how improvident an old soldier is in a very little time they had either squandered what money they had or else it had been lilchrd fioin them lit designing persons and as their habits wre anything but agricultural and they were not capable of work- ingon their lands ihey were reduced to a state ot destitution inconsequence of representations from lower canada the practice of sending them out to canada was discontinued now the motion of my hon friend is that iheir pensions may be restored fothose who are in this situation because the plan of sending them out here has not been found to an swer the purpose intended thai of making them comfortable for the remainder of their day he does not purpose that these pensions should be paid out of the casual and territorial revenue m the hon- gentleman from lenox mid addington senilis so apprehensive 6f they were chelsea petitioner and of course if put upon the footing they were be fore it is from that fund they will he supported- it is a very juat proceeding and such a one as hoii members who consider the humanity which is due in those unfortunate men will readily concur in it mr mclenn it seems to me tht the hon gen tleman from lenox a addmgtmi hs a determined horror for the term pauper einigrai is hut 1 am afraid the greater number an of that denomination because it is evident the course pursued w jih regard to them proved most injurious to those individual whom it was intended to benefit ihey received a certain sum of money and relinquished their chums upon his majestys government with tins sum thc expected they would be enabled to establish them selves in this country bur persona whu have spent iheir tueful days in ins majestys service an not persons calculated to make their living in this cotm- try now 1 think if proper repree imam be nmdr of the facts of the case that thev hw iwen tjiuthlt to aail theinlea ul the hcnchi liuh it i in tended by his majestys govern mm they shoud enjoy no doubt their peusin s will he restored to them so that they will haw the mean ofuppri- ing iheir families and i do tint think it at all un reasonable to ask this of hi majesty gov eminent if they are rentored at all it will he out of he pen sion fund of the united kingdom no doubt thai ol chelsea whence they have been removed and not out of the money of this province i think they have real and urgent claim and the hon and learn ed gentleman deserves great credit fur having brought forward the motion i hope it win be adop ted mr mcjvab said he thought he should regret as much as any hon gentleman in this house that any injustice should be done to an m soldier or to in od sailor but he confessed he did nut exactly understand the purport of the motion whblhei it was that the house should offer o dictate to jus msjesty about the pensioning of bi worn out sol diers he thought these commutations were nut rery creditable to those who made them but he did not think any representotions would induce in ma jesty to make these people ienhouei gain alter having sent them out here to people the wild oj canada he feared i address would not hate the desired effect but would be establishing a precedent for interfering with matters which ihey had no right to do mr morri the language of the learned geii lleman is simply this he think his majesty ha aade a very improper arrangement with those emi grants d having done so that he will now do them justice those persons it appears are nut able to cultivate their lands they have not those habits of industry which are necessary to bring the forest into cultivation they labor flnder very great disadvantages and i would say it is a part ol otn business and our duty if they have been will out here under an improvident arrangement to look m- to the matter and address his majesty upon it it is a very proper and a very legitimate subject lor an address as to any fear ol their luring suppoited out of the casual aud territorial revenue the lion gentleman mr perry may make himself putt tasy on that score for if they are restored at all ihty will be restored to the list from which their names were struck 1 have understood that many of those men are maimed and helplfu and there- fers the most dttrving of ejomistratioi 1 am for th pnfpriwd mm he h hi geiilltniiuii nhimw any their treaiment lias been very imitwpwi a that we hae ttu buiine with it i nay we have tin- right and inure ihufl thai it i ur duty to represent the injury which the community snslains hetr hear under all these ciromwnnci s the mnttti o tight tti be taken into consideration mr ftortoh midi he thought it improper house to interfere it would bean uncnlledfor inter- feiencc the otilv thing for llie house to do he diought wan to addreas ins excellency and request him to represent the matter as it really wan to tin home government adopting he motion propo sed would he thought be according to the legal phrase so frequently used travelling out of hie reeorri mr boulton when i brought this subject hefor the house i did not expect there would be so muci opposition to it 1 have ho inteicst whatever in thr question except companion for the hardships ri nose men 1 acted ou this occasion a no douh hon gentlemen are willing ogive me ing from good intentions and these poor men were a burthen he he siil fhihralj would a oon vnuist the hnn sentlrnimi mn rerryj rhe mansiemwi of die hill l wv one he would be far fftm im- puling that hon gentleman a desire to pabint inrn- iurea which would be oihci dun beneficial hi constiiueiits and whnteier would he fur thegfod hetlmnght up- good effect and mi perry eoosiuuente would be eijtiflflyso for ins ithesob tieneralv but lie would uotsnp- pnrt a measure that tended to introduce new fancies any thine which wow have the ellectof rendering it mure easy to the various oflieers to diirhargc then duueyjie wnl1d be in favor of but he waa ioi ill favor of rendering it nmrccnmphcated and ibve all he would not legislate for the prejudices of till people th hon tfu speaker wu he hud ltttl with attention liul hd not heard from the learned olici- anv good objections against the bill- itwas tional ax i one which 1 object to unihevhole the rill would have a the house if ihev did nothing else during the txssion would receive frool the public a vast deal of credit- ihenr hear f the committee rwe and reported progiws and asked leave to sit el tomorrnw european ihtelliouhoa tor a s credit for d wnen 1 stated thjt to the cnimiiunitv dso stated that many of them had lust their limlls nd were unable therefore to urociire a kvrkhou i would fufk if a man has lost bin limbs going upoi a wild lot of land en he be expected to enrn in- living it is merely with a liew of msitllif thnsr unfortunate individuals that 1 have h rough 1 thtsmf- ciun bufurethe house i reinlleci on a luitneruecfr nioii it was thought advisable thai the incorporate militia should get half pay by reason uf their h- ingtdo actual wrviee and is it not just as re sonable now that an address should be adopted of hie bwlultol tlmse iho have served his majesty as iur its being a tax nn this country it is out of in quesjou no one will tor a moment suppose thh any such tlinig is contemplated when he hears thr address which i have drawn up here mr liou ton read the address and then proceeded to obsrw thai lie hoped htm member would give the olttltc consideration at alt event nd not hastily rejee he motion it was a subject upon which he though llley were particularly called upon to take som teps towards anielitirating the condition nf thos iiutortititate people many of whom had abundoue iheir land at otice when they found it to be a iluci oiest the efore the cninmutatitm was of noservie o litem whatever upon representation of thei eise to the government at hone he thought the would most cheerfully rest re them to the peitsioi nsl as to there betne no precedent for an miilrtri upon bueh a suhject 1 think it is a very similar raw 0 that of praving for the allowance of half pay to the incorporated militia willi tlieac remarks mr speaker 1 shall sit down and i hope that hon ucuihere will he induced to support the motion of c duncomht 1 really do not see what ther in the motion which authorises the houe id sup port it in any 1 t for we hate nothing before u in that motion by which we can possibly judge as t he nature and terms of the address the hon am lea1itd gentleman intends the motion should emhracu ibe principal matters which it it meant hi address hall comprehend- this motion does no require him to conhie himself to any pariiculuf ad dress one of two cruises ought to have been adopt ed either he should have set forth the facts intend d to be embraced in the address or else a elec committee should in the first instance be appoint ed to enquire into the frcts and report them to th house in order that the address may be founded or iheiil dr d moed in amendment that the ques i lion he referred to a select rnmmittec im i seconded the motiori hfn j tto uithop fh ma rtchantson whei impression ilwt he intended to refer the matter to i elect committee hut it is a matter which has beef suggested ly that hon geuileinan himself he know the factf of tlie case and it is but just ci him that in should have an opportunity of bringing the subjer hefore the house the glcts which the hon am teamed gentleman had slated weie such as the eonld not bhut their eyes o and he believed it eiiuld be satisfactorily shewn to his majestvt tnveniinent that these poor men were worihv oh jects of companion mr wtith made some remarks winch we wen unable lu hear on tin gallery mt fftmftojt did iot rise lor ihe purpose of o fei ing any opposition to thr amendment be was no at all desirous that he should iiae the cxclusiti iurtd icting of the measure but he had thought r his duly ulbringil forward hut now that itisdone ii is tiute iimnatenal as to whu hhnuhl compose the couitniuee the amendment will liuve the sanii enect as the motion i intended the onlv object i rshmild he investigated iniiuously ivaui g oi the house rcsol- i id was thnt the matt the anieiidment wan carried i lie older ni ute day tur the mxuhu umilton bank hill being failed lhf ved mtl into a coinmiitee ol mr ptrtfj was averse to bill in the liij -i- of the hun tiemiu whu had biought it in the whole upon it proceeding with the and learned geil- he believed also that it had been fully understood this bill wusnotiu be proceeded with until the mam question had heeu settled ak to whether thry were to have one great altunal h provincial bank or whether they were to go m multiplying small ones if the provincial bank bill were to be passed it would be altogether useless to pass the one now before them bt cause it was not reasonable lo suppose that the stock of the inferior bank could betaken up if t e bill fur provmnal baukshould be thrown out it would ihen be the time to consider whether they would char ier other small one he wished it to be under stood that he did nut express any opinion one way or the other with regard to them lie would take occasiuntu expreks hie sentiments fully when the respective questions came up at present lit thought agreeably to the undcituiidiiig the hill should be postponed air mtfltab who had just entered the house ex pressed his willingness that the quemon uhould ik deferred he was sensible thai a vir great taihtj of opinion existed with regaid tu ueitki but he nab perlectly convinced that all would agre uu thnt uiu point that there was a very great detcieuey in thu amount ol eirculaliug medium he a ipute wit ling to postpone the question until tie ireat hit which his hon friend mr merrill j hd biuuglu be- lorethe house should liae lietfl dis jsaed ami al ter that he should press forward ihe ii ii now before the committee and he imped an e tpial share ol courtesy would be extended to bim s lie was at all times willing to show the committee ease and re ported progress ihe house then reoued itself into a committee of the whole m ihe iwmlitp oihcer bill mr rerrv explained tliealterauoa intendedtobe ellectcd by the bill mr sat gtncrat observed that the hon gemle- niait lud introduced th- bill in iuth u shape a h toe solicitor could never give his smppnrt lu j the hon ticntlemau would confine it elfstncilvto condenjingihe ian relating to the subject embraced in the bill more partlcufeilv define tihc powers ul the several lownhip officers aud remder the trssmore eenam he would rsadily rnncur r du- m it neasure which he the speaker had alwajs rded as n mot valuable one the hon and learned solicitor seems to be undei the impression that the bill will give the people the power of choosing justices of the peace at township meetuiits that t will have the effect of transferring this power from the executive to the people them- sekes if he had looked at the bill he would have found it difficult to point out any provision of thib kind the bill contemplates mi innovation on the common law in the powers of justices of the peace either ns tespects criminal accusations or the reco very of debts ceitiin restrictions are imposed with regard to the duties of township officers and justices hut it does not intel jere with their common law the main feature of the bill is that it allow the people in appoint those who shall manage the township atvairsand cannot this as well be done bv themselves oh to allow ii excellency to do it liir them his excellency tu making the appoint ments is called upon to exercise a duty for which he is by no mcms qualified by eircuinsianccs on ho other hand when the choice is eft to themselves il unsuitable persons arechusen they themselves are the parties injured- he considered it a very valua iile measure it had given his hon colleague u sreat deal of trouble and any one wiio would look at the number of laws mentioned in the preamble which it was necessary to repeal would see at once the fieeesslty and usefulness uf an act like the pre sent those laws were passed at an early stage of the countrys existence since which tune the manner of transacting business is materially altered and it is necessary therefore that measures should alter proportionably we have an active growing and thriving population v nitlt legislate with a view o what is most suitable under ihe circumstan ces it is necessary that something should be done for the more effectual improvement of roads though the objections 10 ihe different subjects embraced in the bill if there should be any will come more pro perly under consideration when the different clau ses are read hon members will have an opportu nity of saying whether there is any thing impracti cable or inconvenient in the management of the va rious matters specified in the bill in this country at ihe present day populous as it has become he was perfectly convinced that as far as regards the appointment ofth various officers it could much better be made by the people themselves upon the spot than by hjs excellency here where there must necessarily be extreme ignorance as to their fitness nr unfitness mr sv ienrrat what i stated was that tin bill contemplated a transfer of powers to persons named in it which powers have always under oui form of iovetumeni been exercisctl by justices o the peace thereby as it were erecting a new tribu- if the linn speaker would condescend to puiof not io wht respect tliese powers diiler from ihose belonging to justices of the peace i would be glad to hear him it would be contrary to the practice always pursued under our form of govern ment mr thorhurn snid that he should give the mea sures bis heartv concurrence all the observations nf the learned solictor go to show that it slmuld be adopted it is not a matter wbieh involves princi ples of government it is only whether ccitaiu im provements may not with advantage be adopted and that these alter lions proposed by the bill would be improvement mm he present system must be perlectly nhvims tu any individual mr solkitor general observed in reply that in his opinion if the measure were adopted ihey would have before the year wos over liolf the country dy ing ou for iia repeal mr perry t is certainly amusing to sec the learn ed solicitor general rise np here aud argue one way and the next moment rise and argue the other would not legislate liir the public prejudices ami oh pastt this and you will have ihe public bum your ear- nowtfiisis really consistent there in no great and iinghy innovation uuwuleh as the learned solicitor seems to diead with re- irard lu the court of bequests fur instance it will ktaild precisely upon the same footing it does at pre sent sol h will not have the least resemblance ton it will be just the same only the commis sioners will be appointed by the people themselves mstead of hi kxcellencv- hear hear their du ties w ill be as definite in the one case as in the other here some discussion arose a to adjourning the ng arrived for the meeting of the city k p iij i from thr sttr york vummirant adtertitcr two days later from england the ship alexander barcluy capt perrv hae arrived at philadelphia from liverpool bringing london papers to the lftlh of january inclusive containing paris date of the i7ih evening it will be recollected that the readers of this paper have been furnished with the contents of the paris morn ing papers of the same date the following selection are made from the phil- idelphia gazette of laat evening france yn regard to the movements and intentions of mr livwigiton the american minister the following are the only items furnished by the philadelphia pa- per it is affirmed hat mr livingston the american minister on the communication made to him by the minister for foreign affairs has replied that hav ing been sent to maintain amicable relation between the two countries he would not accept the passports tillered to him till he should have received the orders of his government journal lu com merce we have it in our poire to state that mr living ston wrote a letter to admiral de bigny in answer to that which iionitd hnn that his passports would h delivered to imp in which mr livingston stated that lis instructions did not indicate the steps he was to take in such a cae as it ivid not been fore seen antl therefore requested the minister to make him acquainted with the intentions uf the french government tnt state whether it was wished tl at ht should immediately quit france or whether he might wait for instructions fiom his own govern ment we are not acquainted with the reply of admiral de kicny but uf course il was not of a na ture to add to the embarrassment which already ex ists by enforcing the ministers drpartute the accounts ol the pacific dispositions ol the conress received yestrrday are likewise calculated to calm any apprehension that the affair will be carried to extremities gottottuttu lb jihituhlt be lli now tween france and the united states is copied from me of the london papers but we are not infojnud which as respects domestic news the french paper now befoie us are rathet more interesting than any that liave reached us during some days although still occupied nearly to exclusion with our tlectione aud the quarrel with the united states of america on the former subject the ministerial papery conti nue to express their hopes that the radical party in ibis country will have succeeded but it is evi dent i indeed from our private letters we know it to he a fact that ho french government begins to admit a doubt of the triumph of radicalism with regard to the american qucnou our paiii teller states that the general opinion resolves itself into uncertainty whether ministers shall be able to carry the bill through the chamber and ihus niaiu- tain themselves in uflice and whether or not the american moverihlem may not take the wjihdraw- al of the fremh minister from washington and ihe notification to mr i mutton the american minis ter in paris as a mortal ttflvont to be resented by immediate hosiiliife th great probability is however that the menaced collision will not otcur 1 he speech of the french minister of finance in he chamber of deputies ou thursday last will be read with interest the standard contains a very long nd bitter ar ticle giiinst the united states aud in favor of the french question ending thus courage mon tni lttuti phillipt fight brother jonathan iftheswabtan mercury is to he believed a nego tiation is on foot for a maniagc between the duke of orleans and the dtichessof0raganah of the uracils t limn persons e court of peers was proceeding with ia pre- try iiivomigntiou of the charges against the custody for sedition and treason some nns had arlded to the republiran party iber o deputi hour hav klection committee mr perry had only a few remarks to olfer and detain them with he would like to ask the learned sol general whether he would be willing to make any alteration in the pre sent system of holding town meetings lie could inform hon gentlemen of many instances withii his own knowledge where contradictory warrants or notices had bfl issued for holding them such a proceeding must of course occasion much confu sion and irregularity was a just subject of com plaint another thing is unless you have all the justices togeiber you cannot tell whether the different officer have taken their oaths of office whereas il wt have one particular person whose duty it shall be to notify ih people of the holding of town meetings and to swear in the officer theie will not be that uncertainty which there is at present ue would appeal to the randuur of the it whether hi- did not think some altera- n uecoairy lie mr per il people at these meeting riuau inttd of having ny cases an improper people are disgu led t to remain at home sol general whethe lion in these partieul iy would also have tuthoi i h tu appoint a jhai the cui isiabici whu i in mi person one with whunt the ad are indneed on that aecou mstead of attending ihe meeting mr rickurtlnon looked upon the hill now under a olte of great importance and one serious consideration it was i the several acts should lie had not heard any ar- iteh would in ictior w oiibjdeiatton which debervih their ndniittrd on all iauditli be condensed iu one giiinent from the learned sol duce hun to object to he principles of the ijjil w nh tespect to cmiimissioners lr expending road money he wmi convinced ihatifihoseu by iheneo- ple they would be apt tu give inure satisfaction than if appointed by the bouse the clause which relates to the subject is a rood clause nevertheless there are some to which i hull give my dissent as they severally come under consideration the clause giving cornmieiioiiere the power of levying an addi- tecciit elect in the chamber ol deputies several recent fail ures at orleans renewed the fears of a commercial crisis in paris- marshal gerard had recovered from indisposition the cholera was said to have nearly subsided at marseilles the monitcur publishes the convention signed atcopenhaffeiinntfiestihofjnty last whereby ihe llvetlmlirnl i jeiruian ieuea lu ue j i- concluded between the khyr of the french and the king of great britain and ireland on the 30th of november 131 and the 22nd of march 1633 for the complete suppression of the slave trade the cse uf his royal highness ihe duke of cambridge against the lukr charlex of bftulfr wick came on before the cffbt tie premiere instance of paris on the lgihof januaty after a speech from the defendant in which he complained bitierly of his late majesty king george iv aud the duke ol cambridge the case was postponed the indemnity bill was presented in the cham ber of deputies on the 15th by the minister of pi- nance whose remark evince a sincere desire that it should meet nhniiccess on the other hand pear ly all the 1 s papers appear averse to its passage circumstances the result is e- under present hemely doubtful letter from the havre dated junus r idvicefrum laiis of ihe previous day that mr litlllgslnn had determined to remain at his post in as tu the indemnity bill the letters say it most 7 1 respectable sources at say on the authority of i doubtful would pass eonsic my very serious coutequen- but the expectation that it rather preponderated other letter from persons acquainted wiih the ciews of mr livingston express themselves bv raying he is determined to keep his post and look tu he interests of the country until he in ordered away or recalled the recall of mr serrurier the french minister at 111 ashiljguul ic attributed to the insulting language nf the presidents message nor waa it considered likely to be followed by ces the p rem aim of maritime insurance for war risk has risen for long loysges from a half per cent to three aud bur in consequence of the notification of the minitcvr great dritaiv the english elections are proceeding more slow ly than at lirst it is not yet decided what will be the complexion of the parliament the friends of the new ministry speak in terms of strong cofi- deuce of secunnga majority of conservatives jo- wph hume baa succeeded hut bv a very slender majority the whigs radicals have inflicted a severe blow uptnin robert peel by defeating ir george murray but the conservatives have defeated lord palmerston in return lo cnrland the elections were generally agaiflst