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rttmnt vol 73 no 25 the tribune stouffville ontario thursday november 23 1961 fourteen pages cant tell the difference a public meeting conducted er supply attracted a large water were made available to chairman of the stouffville last week to discuss the pros attendance of town residents the public pictured here dr public utilities commission and cons of placing fluoride at the conclusion of the gath- hilliard pivnick left fills the and ken wagg right the in stouffvilles municipal wat- ering samples of fluoridated cups of e h neville centre reeve staff photo no flares posted at scene of fatality 25 fine imposed a twenty year old whitchurch township truck driver was fined 52500 and costs in newmarket court on thursday afternoon when he pleaded guilty to a charge of posting no flared in the area of his disabled vehicle the truck driven by peter fin- telman cone 5 was involved in a fatal accident on the night of oct 30th eleven year old su6an reed daughter of mr and mrs david reed gormley rr 1 was killed in the crash pc robt hart of the van- dorf detachment of the ontario provincial police said that he could only assume the position of the truck on the side of the road prior to the collision the impact drove it some distance into the ditch the officer said that the vehicle had become stalled due to a motor failure you must never take chan ces with other peoples lives warned magistrate n p kelley you were not only risking your own safety but the safety of others an inquest into the girls death will be conducted at vandorf on dec 12th four nominations this week stouffville and three other district municipalities will hold their annual nomination meet ings this week the stouffville meeting is slated for the legion hall on thursday tonight and nominations will be accepted be tween the hours of 730 pm il cartons injure car passengers a passenger in a small north bound car suffered injury to his back on tuesday morning when struck by a number of nail car tons that were resting on the rear seat the auto driven by bernard fussel of scarboro was making a lefthand turn into a private driveway when in col lision with a southbound vehicle driven by cedric northover of rr 2 stouffville the accident occurred on cone 6 markham north of unionville damage to both cars has been estimated at 900 mr fussel suffered head cuts mr north- over escaped injury the nail cartons were tossed forward with such force that a passenger larry sigouin of scarboro had his clothes cut sgt wm shearn of markham two police investigated mrs jud ward has been transferred from oshawa hos pital to brierbush hospital in stouffville and 830 pm the townships of markham whitchurch and pickering will hold their nominations on fri day nov 24th opp officer urges aid for 16year0ld boy an officer with the ontario provincial police department at vandorf urged magistrate o s hollinrake to consider some sort of treatment or assistance for a 16 year old ballantrae youth who appeared in newmarket court on thursday to face char ges of causing wilful damage and theft of chickens magis trate hollinrake suggested that arrangements should be made for thos wyatt to attend the york county mental health cli nic and to reappear in court on nov 30th the ballantrae boy was charg ed with damaging a car on the property of alex doberston k r 3 newmarket and stealing chickens from kennedy farms rr 4 stouffville two other juveniles were also charged with theft i have known tommy for a long while said cpl pettigrew alone hes allright but with others hes continually in trou ble the officer expressed a willingness to help out in any way he could hes not a bad boy continued the corporal but is powerfully built 230 lbs and has no control over his temper he suggested that the lad was possibly a scape goat for other peoples wrath mrs wyatt his mother agreed that her son was often subjected to blame for which he was not responsible vanderbent bruce and mina nee stickley are happy to announce the birth of their daughter on november 19th 1961 at branson hospital acquit driver on charge of being impaired a charge of driving while his ability was impaired filed against a toronto man by the stouffville police department was dismissed by magistrate o s hollinrake in newmarket court on thursday alexander bisko was the driver of a car that was involved in a collision with another auto at the inter section of the ninth line north and main street on sunday eve ning oct 8th an eastbound vehicle driven by donald sayer rr 2 uxbridge suffered about 5300 damage the accused admitted consum ing a couple of bottles of beer andotwo shots of whiskey alt the home of a friend at mussel- mans lake during the after noon but denied that it had af fected his driving ability he said he erred in completing his turn onto the main street both pc dennis davies and pc hugh vankoughnet testi fied that biskos breath smelled strongly of alcohol his speech was slurred and his walk un steady magistrate hollinrake contend ed that there was reasonable doubt concerning suggested im pairment and in such cases the benefit must go in favour of the accused new nominees are required this year for local council and school board stouffvilles annual nomination meeting will be held this thurs day evening and at the moment it would appei that several new nominees viil be needed to fill vacancies on council and school board reeve ken wagg stated at council meeting thursday that he was prepared to remain in office if it was the wish of the ratepayers he congratulated council members on their un selfish work done for the entire community and hoped that if he should be returned as reeve another year at least some of the members would be there to support him deputyreeve ken laushway stated that he was prepared to step out of office he said he did not wish to stand in anyones way who might be aspiring to the reeveship and this he was not he stated that he would not leave the reeve alone with a new council should all the members decide to retire he said he had tried to make a contribution for some years and would like to retire from office this year councillors lehman parsons and slack were noncommital in their remarks but gave the im pression they would be prepared to accept nomination school board seats at least two vacancies will have to be filled on the public school board to fill the positions of mrs ethel mole and mr cec hendricks who have declared their intention to leave the board this year stouffville municipal council members agreed on a resolution thursday night that the colour ed lights which decorate main street so well during christmas should become a council respon sibility while council will un dertake to maintain the lights the public utilities commission will be asked to assist in main tenance and replacing of bulbs mr reg stouffer approached council on behalf of the busi nessmens association stating that it would require 125 to put the lights in operation again and provide a time clock and the association asked for assist ance while not all were unanimous during the discussion on the matter the resolution to take over the lights passed without a dissenting vote sale held up clerk ralph corner reported on a problem concerning the sale of the forsan house on church st the prospective pur chaser of the property wishes to erect a garage which would be on a 25 ft strip of land ap pearing on the towns registered plan as a municipal right-of- way the new owner could not obtain clear title to the property by virtue of this townowned rightofway which in years gone by led to farm land to the rear of church st council mem bers agreed to inspect the pro perty v rotest esignatson ir weekend visitors with mr and mrs joe winterstein sec ond st were mr and mrs eu gene winterstein carol joanne and gary of st catherines and mrs verne whitwell of allen- burg the meeting held on wednes day evening in the legion hall for the benefit of the citizens of stouffville who wished to hear the pros and cons on fluorida tion proved a most interesting public affair contrary to he speculation of many the hall was well filled and the medical and dental men brought in as members of the panel were both informative and entertaining mr marshall mcmurchie of vaughari twp and a former warden of york county acted as chairman the two panelists for the affirmative or favorable side for fluoridation were dr e guest and dr h pivnick and they were introduced by dr neil smith and dr petrie the two doctors supporting the neg ative view were dr nell roy and dr samuel leslie they were introduced to the gather ing by mr harold dafoe dr guest who introduced the subject for the favorable side told the audience that twenty years of study and research had gone into the checking of fluor idation before the medical and dental associations were ready to give it their stamp of approv al he said that the dentists and doctors were criticized for hold ing back on what they now ap proved as a discovery of great benefit to public health dr roy i peaking lor tie neg ative side of the debate said he didnt deny that there was benefit in fluoride for the teeth but said that there were ill ef fects to other parts of the body if putting it in the water was the- only way there mght be some justification but we know there are a couple of other ways he said he then went on to enumer ate various ill effects that could be traced to fluoride he sug gested that citizens should buy fluoride at the drug store and not make bad friends of their neighbors who might vote a- gainst it i cant sit back and listen to these lies and twisted state ments said dr pivnick as he rose following the first nega tive speaker these people go about the country trying to scare people by connecting fluor idation with everything imagin able from communism to the atomic bomb the same people resisted the purification of wa ter supplies by chlorine dr roy is even opposed to the pasteurization of milk he said why do they do these things they arc the hate- mongers the anti-fluorldation- ists who spread lies right and left said dr pivnick use your common sense no one knows better than your doc tors ho concluded dr samuel leslie said he did not care how people voted as long as they got the facts and judged for themselves he said he had spent eight hours before the morden commission which spent two years preparing a gov ernment report on the matter myself i dont want it be cause its of no benefit to me why should i take a chance he said dr leslie questioned the pos sibility of controlling the dos age at best he said it can only help the children from six to about 12 years its a pity this has become a political football he concluded question period topular the question period which followed the 4 speakers proved most popular and drew queries from many parts of the floor mr david coon asked why- is it not toxic cither way in pills as well as in the water dr leslie replied that a doc tor must know if fluoride is the proper medicine his patient needs there arc five or six dif ferent types in the pill form giving varying dosages mr jack sanders asked why the canadian medical associa tion or representatives were not before the morden commis- sion hearings dr guest replied that the co- mmission was an ontario pro vincial government affair and representatives of the provin cial medical bodies were present mr ross giles asked dr les lie if he was not concerned with children and the benefits to them as the doctor had said he didnt want it since it would do him no good dr leslie replied that he thought the government would soon be supplying it in tablet form so that those who would get it would be the ones for whom it had value mrs roy dowswell asked how a teacher having no medical knowledge was going to admin ister the drug dr leslie replied that if a teacher could handle thirty to forty children she would have sufficient ability is this not a medical prob lem asked mr harry heather- ington dr leslie replied that it was but it was different from others that dealt with deathdealing diseases cost mentioned mr jack sanders asked if it was right that out of s1000 spent only si worth of value got to the children dr pivnick replied that he had seen families whose child ren and childrens children had continued on page 7 the resignation of the princi pal at glasgow public school ss no 6 uxbridge township has aroused concern among the parents of children in the sec tion more than twenty moth ers riled by recent events plan ned to stage a protest meeting with the trustee board it was only recently that ratepayers had granted their approval to the erection of a new 46000 tworoom structure to be com pleted in time for the septem ber term although information is vague concerning the rather fast-mov- ing chain of event it is under stood that the lone male teacher mr nicholas horick submitted his resignation and it was ac cepted by a majority votv of the board an advertisement has already been inserted in at least one newspaper for a replacement mr horicks leav ing becomes effective as of dec 31st 1961 he has served the glasgow section for two com plete years it is understood that the par ents are almost one hundred percent behind the teacher a petition to this effect has been completed for presentation to the trustees a report on wed nesday nights protest meeting will appear next week council concludes discussions on markham police a brief committee report read by reeve wilfred dean marked the end of discussion of activi ties of the chief of police clar ence wideman which have fea tured markham township coun cil meetings for several months the report said simply that the topic had been discussed by council in committee of the whole that a number of recom mendations had been made as to the chiefs duties and the po lice committee had been in structed to see that they were carried out there was no dis cussion hot arguments in council rec ently saw deputy reeve law- son mumberson complain that the chief had not carried out his duties properly with coun cillor charles hooper defending the chiefs position a recent decision to deal with the matter in committee brought monday nights brief report the inten tion evidently being to make a fresh start with the air being cleared welfare and gokarts spark interest in uxbridge nomination before the largest gathering cause he felt sorry for those of ratepayers in many years ten candidates were nominated for uxbridge township council seats on friday evening more than a hundred attended and produced the largest number of participating candidates the township has had for a long time all five members of the 1961 council are standing for reelec tion all seats are being con tested six in the field for coun cil reeve earl dowswell is be ing opposed by exreeve isaac catherwood robert nesbitt deputyreeve by a former coun cillor norman hogg new can didates for council will be mrs jean bell daniel gribben and donald jackson reeve earl dowswell dealt chiefly with county matters in his address he said that on tario county now had a road system extending over 261 miles twentythree miles of pavement had been added this year and 12 miles prepared for surfacing in 1962 mr dowswell was a member of the county commit tee which was successful in ob taining government action on rebuilding the road from good wood to manchester now more than half completed deputy reeve robert nesbitt chairman of the county agricul tural committee and member of the conservation authority touched on these projects he said that no funds had been set aside this year for the purchase of additional reforestation land and noted that the government was not subsidizing the upkeep of roads on which reforested land fronted about 80 of the county reforestation property is in uxbridge twp councillor alvin redshaw told the gathering that fire fighting costs were increasing but claims for livestock killed had come down this past year councillor john angell touch ed mainly on welfare of which he was chairman he said that former relief officer isaac ca therwood gave out the relief be- needing help councillor angell said he looked at it from a fin ancial standpoint and said the cost was reduced this year from 5000 to 3317 he made the point that the former relief officer insisted on giving out the maximum monthly relief of 180 but since council only paid 160 tosroad men it appeared a bet ter job to be on relief councillor chas forsyth con tended that the county should assume the 7th concession he said roads had been greatly im proved and cited the purchase of a new township tractor cost ing 664364 causes flurry in meeting former reeve isaac cather wood who is opposing the pres ent encumbent earl dowswell brought a chuckle from the crowd when he said that as an officer of the township he had to wait until he was 80 years old to get fired mr catherwood gave a complete rundown on the work of the welfare depart ment during his tenure of office he said that he had left the mu nicipality with a 30000 surplus but did not know what it was today councillor angell rose to say that mr catherwood was insult ing the intelligence of the aud ience however he received rough treatment from the crowd for his interruption reeve dowswell speaking in rebuttal to mr- catherwoods re marks stated that councillor an gell was a good welfare chair man and if mr catherwood had reduced the amounts of money being handed out as council re quested there would not have been any trouble he said he had an opportun ity for the ontario county wardenship if returned to office this year an opportunity to bring honour to the township as regards the finances he as sured mr catherwood that the township was in good financial condition the sum of 19000 had been spent for a new garage and a surplus of 13000 was on hand one police force for county still considered consideration of amalgamat ing all municipal police forces in york county into one depart ment is still under considera tion by county council an ex tensive report on what could be accomplished by such a move was prepared some time ago and this was adopted last week in principle main object in the report was to show the benefits to be de rived from the larger force some of the local forces are not able to provide the service nec essary stouffville for instance is the only municipality not able to provide radio contact with other police forces a serious handicap in time of trouble some are understaffed it was pointed out while others lack other services nearly all the municipalities were represented at the meet ing two officers being present from stouffville reeve ken wagg speaking on the matter stateq he thought it was time county council took some action on amalgamation he said that stouffville officers were called into the neighboring townships from time to time on accident cases that were close to the borders the bell telephone co ad vised county council of improv ed service that could be provid ed if the entire county was un der one central command there would be a reduction of person nel gusher at baker hill an artesian well on the pro- among stouffville puc offi- gusher poses a threat to sources commission jijx perty of mcrvin turner at dais and farm residents in ponds wells and even the calji in to in baker hill in whitchurch twp the area spouting 25000 gal- town reservoirs engineers pwifcv has caused some concern ions ol water per hour the with the ontario water re-